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You might want to check your math.

199 = (1 + 120 / 16.6666) * base_stats <=> base_stat = 199 / (121/16.6666) = 27.41

I did calculate correctly. I'm pretty sure that I'm not the one faulty here.

199 = (1 + 120 / 16.6666) * base_stats <=> base_stat = 199 / (121/16.6666) = 27.41

I did calculate correctly. I'm pretty sure that I'm not the one faulty here.

Only use base stats given by link (EDIT: Note base stat also changes depending on upgrade so be careful comparing an upgraded equip with a un-forged un-upgraded one) also

about your maths I think it might be a BODMAS mistake

27.41035868 = 199/(121 / 16.6666) != 199/(1 + 120 / 16.6666) = 24.26820745

Which is close enough to 24.33 which is the base stat on link (maybe rounding error or equation just an approximation I don't know)

Hopefully my maths is correct (dunno I just chucked it into excel)

EDIT2:

After reading my post once again I realised a part of it was worded poorly ( I found it offensive myself, very sorry I didn't realise it until I just read it again just now) and I have changed the wording. I apologise if I have given any offence.

This post has been edited by rfEH: Jun 20 2015, 11:17

Hey, I got something like this - > Legendary Hallowed Axe of Slaughter
I am pretty sure it's unquestionably the best weapon that dropped for me but.. Is it that good?

1. Just tell me how much would it be worth?

2. Best potencies for Axe?
At this moment i have really shitty wong rapier. So, i might iw10 this axe and then.. What potencies should i aim for?
On the first roll i got counter-parry and i am not even sure how it works (does it lower monsters parry chance? therefore with high counter-parry i increase survivability?)

3. How should i implement this Axe into gameplay?
At this moment i play 1h shield. Ofc because of easy pfudor encounters. (it's not that simple for my elemental gear)
Never really played dw. With offhand parry it might actually be pretty nice. Unfortunately i do not have 50 shades of gray.

Stunning 1 mob out of 10, i can't understand people.

while you stunned one mob you can go stun another one, and another etc... at least i guess...

Hey, I got something like this - > Legendary Hallowed Axe of Slaughter
I am pretty sure it's unquestionably the best weapon that dropped for me but.. Is it that good?

1. Just tell me how much would it be worth?

2. Best potencies for Axe?
At this moment i have really shitty wong rapier. So, i might iw10 this axe and then.. What potencies should i aim for?
On the first roll i got counter-parry and i am not even sure how it works (does it lower monsters parry chance? therefore with high counter-parry i increase survivability?)

3. How should i implement this Axe into gameplay?
At this moment i play 1h shield. Ofc because of easy pfudor encounters. (it's not that simple for my elemental gear)
Never really played dw. With offhand parry it might actually be pretty nice. Unfortunately i do not have 50 shades of gray.

1. not bad

2. fatality is always good. given it's a main hand, i guess also butcher. overpower only if you go DW with it - but starting with fatality is better.
also, currently rapiers are quite stronger than axes for almost every build. it *may* change with the next patch which will affect mobs mitigations though

3. if i was you, i'd keep this axe somewhere in my inventory and simply look for a decent cheap rapier

I need some help determining what are each Monster Class


Arthropod -> Animals with many legs (e.g. Spiders, Scorpions etc)
(IMG:[i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/wjh2gcZ.png)

Avion -> WTF is that???
-

Beast -> wild animals, mutated animals etc
(IMG:[i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/RuMcthT.png)

Celestial -> divine deities (angels, gods etc)
(IMG:[i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/gIpA01E.jpg)

Daimon -> Demons?
(IMG:[i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/Yh9EcWc.jpg)

Dragonkin -> dragons? and dragon relatives
(IMG:[i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/TBE4dRn.jpg)

Elemental -> creatures made of a specific element
(IMG:[i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/Pm4nJl4.jpg)

Giant -> huge monster (human-like?)
(IMG:[i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/3FkjPFC.jpg)

Humanoid -> humans? and anything that resmbles a human being
(IMG:[i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/HBZaoJw.jpg)

Mechanoid -> robots, androids, cyborgs etc
(IMG:[i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/CFJuuCT.png)

Reptilian -> human-like reptiles
(IMG:[i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/BZiRDOr.png)

Sprite -> WTF is that (spirits maybe?)
(IMG:[i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/lS5w9Sw.png)

Undead -> walking dead
(IMG:[i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/VS0iRDD.jpg)

anyone knows the maximum possible attack speed at the moment?

Stunning 1 mob out of 10, i can't understand people.

Stunning is Good for SG, since you won't be killing them super fast as normal mobs.

rapier of slaughter (or other) + waki of nimble is better.

Nope: Waki of Nimble + Waki of Nimble (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

while you stunned one mob you can go stun another one, and another etc... at least i guess...

You sir are a genius! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

I need some help determining what are each Monster Class
Arthropod -> Animals with many legs (e.g. Spiders, Scorpions etc)
Avion -> WTF is that???
Beast -> wild animals, mutated animals etc
Celestial -> divine deities (angels, gods etc)
Daimon -> Demons?
Dragonkin -> dragons? and dragon relatives
Elemental -> creatures made of a specific element
Giant -> huge monster (human-like?)
Humanoid -> humans? and anything that resmbles a human being
Mechanoid -> robots, androids, cyborgs etc
Reptilian -> human-like reptiles
Sprite -> WTF is that (spirits maybe?)
Undead -> walking dead

Avions are birds or Bird like creatures.
Sprites are small beings such as fairies, pixies etc.

This post has been edited by tetron: Jun 20 2015, 14:51

Avions are birds or Bird like creatures.
Sprites are small beings such as fairies, pixies etc.

OK thanks a lot (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) , so all the others are correct?

while you stunned one mob you can go stun another one, and another etc... at least i guess...

Stunning is Good for SG, since you won't be killing them super fast as normal mobs.

i did situational test (not clear speed, siphon weapons with decent proc chance & near 50 crit).
Result:
proccing another one
another one expires, repeat. Including pre-stun mobs' parry.

Either go focus or spreading the procs i get hammered.

OK thanks a lot (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) , so all the others are correct?

Yes. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Only use base stats given by link (EDIT: Note base stat also changes depending on upgrade so be careful comparing an upgraded equip with a un-forged un-upgraded one) also

about your maths I think it might be a BODMAS mistake

27.41035868 = 199/(121 / 16.6666) != 199/(1 + 120 / 16.6666) = 24.26820745

Which is close enough to 24.33 which is the base stat on link (maybe rounding error or equation just an approximation I don't know)

Hopefully my maths is correct (dunno I just chucked it into excel)

EDIT2:

After reading my post once again I realised a part of it was worded poorly ( I found it offensive myself, very sorry I didn't realise it until I just read it again just now) and I have changed the wording. I apologise if I have given any offence.

Ah yeah, I dunno why I have pu this stupid 1 + 120 in my head, though I do know calculation rules.

I just got a Legendary Ruby Shade Gauntlets of the Fleet from a Nintendo RE (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) , what market value you think it has?

27.41035868 = 199/(121 / 16.6666) != 199/(1 + 120 / 16.6666) = 24.26820745

Which is close enough to 24.33 which is the base stat on link (maybe rounding error or equation just an approximation I don't know)

Rounding error. Do it in reverse. 24.33*(1+120/(50/3)) = 199.506 (the base 24.33 is also rounded)

Again, some rounding error. If you want to be more precise, you can solve for the base roll and quality and then use those to calculate the base stat (more complicated, but it allows you to factor in other stuff, such as forging and potency.) That info isn't in the wiki, for good reason.

(IMG:[i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/r4XjNwm.jpg)

Should I continue being a DW that uses deprecating Magic or should I just focus on Dualwield and no magic?

Should I continue being a DW that uses deprecating Magic or should I just focus on Dualwield and no magic?

deprecative should be less or more useless at your level. though you should raise your WIS rather than INT and maybe switch to axe/rapier, club/rapier or rapier/waki rather than two bleeding wound weapons.

For those without max drop trainings: is it cheaper to farm low difficulties for pots and use energy drinks, or buy elixirs? I need them to do longer arenas with no tapping or focus, but a focus staff might cut my damage too much. 6446, -603 if the magic score script is still accurate.

Its better to use tapping (or 1h style). Its slower, right? But any other metod also cost us something.

If you clear fest fast than its reduction in energy drinks. As i remember ed drop is near 20-25%. So for full 1 fest we need 8-10 and get lower amount. Also you need very set for gaining pots in fest.
Elixir cost much and its only small increase.

So as i said its ok to use tap a bit or other style.

For those without max drop trainings: is it cheaper to farm low difficulties for pots and use energy drinks, or buy elixirs? I need them to do longer arenas with no tapping or focus, but a focus staff might cut my damage too much. 6446, -603 if the magic score script is still accurate.

For SG, silence + drain during T3 cooldown works amazing for holy mage (i basically go through DwD with only 2 mana pots for the first 50 rounds). The delay is pretty much negligible (about 50 turns slower, in a 3000-turn run). I think elem mage can also employ this tactic by using T3 holy in between their own T3 cooldown with not too much delay.

You can also tap when there's only one alive monster with close to zero hp and coalesced mana without sacrificing clear speed, as the killing blow would always give you ether tap.

This post has been edited by holy_demon: Jun 21 2015, 07:10

Hey experts,
I've heard several times now, that Shields with AGI instead of another PAB are way inferior. Is that true?

e.g.

No more troll shield. See AGI and go bazaar.

I recently "upgraded" my pre 0.82 Force Shield to one with considerably better stats in almost everything, but with AGI instead of DEX, is it something I must be concerned? Should I re-equip the one with DEX? (In my character page, the only negative difference I noticed was that I lose like 2% in my Parry chance)
Thanks!

This post has been edited by gynew: Jun 21 2015, 11:07

The only very important stat for shield is Block. All others is just bonus.