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Jun 11 2015, 22:31
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Colman
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QUOTE(Tenrag @ Jun 12 2015, 03:11)  After playing DW until now I have to say that it is just painful. Monsters parry 17,12% attacks with 6 overpower on my two weapons. This means ~22.52% parry without overpower. My data pool was 408 monsters on PFUDOR killed. I know that it is bearly enough to be statisticly significant, but the parry value seemd to have stabilized.
I couldn't play any more, It is just a hell when compared to 1H.
The conclusion from my data is that 1 lvl of overpower on PFUDOR gives ~1,11% damage boost.
You can try 2H next. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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Jun 11 2015, 23:28
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eramosat
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I'd like some advice on equipping 0.82 gear, and how the new drops compare to old gear. I usually disregard the new drops quickly because of their missing or weaker PABS...but maybe they don't matter quite so much in face of the other, improved stats? I don't think I have dropped anything clearly better...but I am definitely not the best judge of quality either. So, I'll take any general advice, plus specific using the following example. Equipped - my only Exquisite Shade equipped, rest are 4 PAB Mags Exquisite Agile Shade Gauntlets of the FleetInventory Exquisite Shade Gauntlets of the FleetPretty close to a wash I think. Would consider new gear only if its Physical Mit was clearly better...? Tks
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Jun 12 2015, 06:59
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clarkiest
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QUOTE(eramosat @ Jun 11 2015, 23:28)  I'd like some advice on equipping 0.82 gear, and how the new drops compare to old gear. I usually disregard the new drops quickly because of their missing or weaker PABS...but maybe they don't matter quite so much in face of the other, improved stats? I don't think I have dropped anything clearly better...but I am definitely not the best judge of quality either. So, I'll take any general advice, plus specific using the following example.
It is quite hard to give advice to a player who's already opened his shop since my newbie days. So here's general knowledge I know. 1. Complete PAB, that is 4 for light armor except arcanist which is 6, is seems to be valued more than other stat. It is hard to sell shades no matter how good it rolled if it has incomplete PAB. 2. Current patch's light is better than last patch light if its legendary. In last patch, it's not easy to find non-shitty shades at magnificent, so you need to buy a legendary to feel an upgrade. But this patch, this effect is furthered by a guarantee that at least 85% of P will be rolled at any stat (Tenboro's claim, unconfirmed). 3. Lvl 0 PXP for all light is high! Probably because extra PAB. I suppose it will make IW slightly harder (much harder for player below lvl 300). 4. As long as PAB is complete, their individual value doesn't matter much. Comparing two exquisite shouldn't be your problem. Given your earning potential, you can buy one legendary shadowdancer every once in a while, as long as it's not agile. Your level also in a range where you can buy from many players. But if you want to have upgrade from your own drop, I'd say it's still very hard. Possibility for it has somewhat improved, but it's not like snowflake saw first what equipment set you are using before you get your drop.
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Jun 12 2015, 07:45
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Colman
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QUOTE(eramosat @ Jun 12 2015, 05:28)  I'd like some advice on equipping 0.82 gear, and how the new drops compare to old gear. I usually disregard the new drops quickly because of their missing or weaker PABS...but maybe they don't matter quite so much in face of the other, improved stats? I don't think I have dropped anything clearly better...but I am definitely not the best judge of quality either. So, I'll take any general advice, plus specific using the following example. Equipped - my only Exquisite Shade equipped, rest are 4 PAB Mags Exquisite Agile Shade Gauntlets of the FleetInventory Exquisite Shade Gauntlets of the FleetPretty close to a wash I think. Would consider new gear only if its Physical Mit was clearly better...? Tks In the old calculation (0.81), for two items with same PxP, the one with missing PAB(s) would have lower overall strength. It is because the PAB with lowest roll only contribute 1 point (point is not PXP) toward final PxP. While the highest roll could be, let say, 5 points, but the actual stat is not 5 time higher. i.e.: 4 PABs with minimum roll give more strength than a single PAB with high roll. However, they could contribute the same point toward PXP. The current equipment seem using similar PXP calculation as the old one. One of the confirmed different is the old internal roll is multiplied by 10. So people could expect more variation in stat rather than Leg-1,-2 or -3. Even without looking at the stat one by one. The PxP already tell you that your old one is much better than the new one. And your new one also have 2 missing PABs. In addition, the current exq is more likely using the PXP range of the old superior. Even if the max stat is shifted higher, which I haven't noticed in shade, there is no chance that a current exq can be better than the older exq. It makes people who want to upgrade an old exq can only hope for a high mag (PxP 330+) with full PABs in this version. The drop chance of mag is ~2% for each in PF, excluding arena clear bonus and RE. And you need to hope for matching type, slot, prefix, suffix, useful stat........ From my experience, Mag is mostly come with missing PAB, even after the fix by 10B. FYI, old drop: Exquisite Ruby Shade Gauntlets of the ShadowdancerMagnificent Shade Gauntlets of the FleetLegendary Ruby Shade Gauntlets of the FleetNew drop: A random mag copied from the equipment thread. PXP 325 Another one. PXP 324. Leather, PXP 332 A new drop just now, PXP 317 Most, if not all, mag with missing PAB fall into old exq PXP range. On the other hand, some new mag can exceed PXP 350. But you need a lot of luck for those. Perhaps even harder than getting a normal Leg. In conclusion: 0.81 Superior ~ 0.82 Exq 0.81 Exq ~ 0.82 Mag with missing PAB 0.81 Mag <= 0.82 Mag with full PABs 0.81 Leg <= 0.82 Leg Dun really know where is the drop boosted in 0.82. And how did one find upgrade by themselves. Edit: I edit whenever I remember what I want to type. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) This post has been edited by Colman: Jun 12 2015, 12:02
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Jun 12 2015, 08:14
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nec1986
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I d say 4%. Im getting... 60 as i remember gears and 1-2 is minimal. Sometimes even 3-5, but one day i had 0. Legendary looks closer to 0,4%. Oh wait.. seems i just lucky. Or thats only for clear bonus?
This post has been edited by nec1986: Jun 12 2015, 08:22
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Jun 12 2015, 11:39
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mozilla browser
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Approximately what equipments ids do 0.82 equipment start from? Is it around 68.5m?
Also, has anyone felt that drops havebeen nerfed or something? For days, I've played DwD & TTT @ PF, the rest of the arenas @ Hell, and several hundred rounds of Hellfest and had no Mag or Leg drops. I guess Leg drops are rare, but are Magnificent drops that rare? Or impossible at Hell?
This post has been edited by mozilla browser: Jun 12 2015, 11:58
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Jun 12 2015, 11:47
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derp-z2
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Greetings
Quick Questions:
1. Any difference between Health Draught and Regen spell ?
2. old potions will be purged within a month (hv 0.82 thread) so on 17th may patch was applied that means by 17th june all old potions will be removed. Just Wanting to know/confirm the date of termination?
This post has been edited by derp-z2: Jun 12 2015, 11:47
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Jun 12 2015, 11:55
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Superlatanium
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QUOTE(mozilla browser @ Jun 12 2015, 09:39)  Approximately what equipments ids do 0.82 equipment start from? Is it around 68.5m?
Lower. 68025347 is my lowest, and that was around a week after the patch started. My guess is the beginning was probably around 67.6m. QUOTE(derp-z2 @ Jun 12 2015, 09:47)  1. Any difference between Health Draught and Regen spell ?
2. old potions will be purged within a month (hv 0.82 thread) so on 17th may patch was applied that means by 17th june all old potions will be removed. Just Wanting to know/confirm the date of termination? 1. Regen restores much more health per turn proc than Draught. 2. Apparently.
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Jun 12 2015, 12:00
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mozilla browser
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QUOTE(derp-z2 @ Jun 12 2015, 17:47)  Greetings
Quick Questions:
1. Any difference between Health Draught and Regen spell ?
2. old potions will be purged within a month (hv 0.82 thread) so on 17th may patch was applied that means by 17th june all old potions will be removed. Just Wanting to know/confirm the date of termination?
1. Both heal over time. One has a Regen effect; the other has Regeneration effect. The quantity of heal is different. Not sure what kind of difference you are looking for. 2. There is no confirmed/certain date.
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Jun 12 2015, 12:01
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karyl123
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QUOTE(derp-z2 @ Jun 12 2015, 16:47)  Greetings
Quick Questions:
1. Any difference between Health Draught and Regen spell ?
2. old potions will be purged within a month (hv 0.82 thread) so on 17th may patch was applied that means by 17th june all old potions will be removed. Just Wanting to know/confirm the date of termination?
health draugh is a complete trash. not heal much. seems only 15% of regen heal. keep health potion if cure got delay.
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Jun 12 2015, 12:07
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hentai_fusion
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QUOTE(mozilla browser @ Jun 12 2015, 17:39)  Approximately what equipments ids do 0.82 equipment start from? Is it around 68.5m?
Also, has anyone felt that drops havebeen nerfed or something? For days, I've played DwD & TTT @ PF, the rest of the arenas @ Hell, and several hundred rounds of Hellfest and had no Mag or Leg drops. I guess Leg drops are rare, but are Magnificent drops that rare? Or impossible at Hell?
67181322 that was a Average Phase Cap which i got from RE soon after patch. i even posted it in the HentaiVerse 0.82 release note thread to complain that it is suffix-less. This post has been edited by hentai_fusion: Jun 12 2015, 12:07
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Jun 12 2015, 12:07
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nec1986
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QUOTE(mozilla browser @ Jun 12 2015, 12:39)  Or impossible at Hell?
I think this one. It was big difference before, but now it can be even higher. Im playing only pf non sg arenas and already got ~7 Lgrades.
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Jun 12 2015, 12:24
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mozilla browser
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Hmm. Maybe I should invert and play the SG @ Hell, the non-SG arenas at PF instead. But I preferred to play DwD at PF to get maximum experience (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Perhaps the SGs, with PL at 0, just don't give a loot drop bonus.
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Jun 12 2015, 12:35
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nec1986
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Whats the point to play sg? Its very slow mode and pffest probably gives similar exp.
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Jun 12 2015, 13:34
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EsotericSatire
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Anyone else having issues with IW?
40 runs and I have only gotten a Jug potency once! 1 in 80 doesn't seem to be the right probability.
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Jun 12 2015, 13:40
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holy_demon
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Jun 12 2015, 21:34)  Anyone else having issues with IW?
40 runs and I have only gotten a Jug potency once! 1 in 80 doesn't seem to be the right probability.
it's just luck. The longest I've gone is 100 runs pre-patch (1 in 100)
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Jun 12 2015, 14:08
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mozilla browser
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Jun 12 2015, 18:35)  Whats the point to play sg? Its very slow mode and pffest probably gives similar exp.
During 0.81, what I could play of PF-fest was giving me approximately the same exp as the 75-round arena @ PF. The 80, 90, 100 round arenas gave more exp, and especially DwD gave lots more. I think this was normalised for Stamina usage (number of rounds), not for time spent though.
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Jun 12 2015, 14:14
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nobody_xxx
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QUOTE(mozilla browser @ Jun 12 2015, 19:08)  During 0.81, what I could play of PF-fest was giving me approximately the same exp as the 75-round arena @ PF. The 80, 90, 100 round arenas gave more exp, and especially DwD gave lots more.
I think this was normalised for Stamina usage (number of rounds), not for time spent though.
SG arenas still the best place for exp with great stamina (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) This post has been edited by nobody_xxx: Jun 12 2015, 14:14
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Jun 12 2015, 14:29
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mozilla browser
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Actually, the 110 and 125 round Arenas aren't so good for exp (again normalised for Stamina). Too few monsters per round, the SGs don't give that much exp, and the exp multiplier isn't high enough to compensate.
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Jun 12 2015, 14:45
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clarkiest
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Jun 12 2015, 13:40)  it's just luck. The longest I've gone is 100 runs pre-patch (1 in 100)
(IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) Please hold me.., I think I'm gonna faint.
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