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How much has power of slaughter been NERFED?

Not so much. What is your equipment level? Also, try shades!
My shade set barely manage Hell. Previously, I can play at BT with niten. But now, I am being kicked around at Nintedo.

Supposedly, power of slaughter was not nerfed. Just that non-slaughter was buffed.

When you are defeated, the condition of all your equipment drops by 10%. You probably got defeated twice. So it's important to pay attention and avoid getting killed.

Did you just come back to play HV after a long absence? If so, do check that your stats are distributed, that your ability points are invested.

Question

How much has power of slaughter been NERFED.

I mean i enter a random encounter
@ hell difficulty with Superior power of slaughter set @ 98% with rapier of void

and not only am i defeated but all stats drop to 78% hands down

WTF seriously (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

With the new potion system and especially with 0 action time, players should never die unless they're playing on a difficulty way above what their gear is suited for (or don't have spark alert script). Did you forget to cast Spark of Life or something?

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98% rapier of void (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
can we see your equipment link ?

RAPIER N SHIELD

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=31556655a5

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=c9be6a74ca

ARMOR SET [ONLY 1]

HELMET
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=42a586eb22
ARMOR
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=4b90ea3f5e
GAUNLET
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=7aed35317d
LEGGINGS
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=89861547e4
BOOTS
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=0f7190ff06

EDIT

@ SUPERLATANIUM

that would be correct.

@ MOZILLA BROWSER

BULLS EYE. so that explains 20% drop in stat rates . 2 MONTHS ABSENCE CAN DO A LOT OF THINGS . THANKS.


This post has been edited by derp-z2: Jun 11 2015, 14:59

RAPIER N SHIELD

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=31556655a5

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=c9be6a74ca

ARMOR SET [ONLY 1]

HELMET
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=42a586eb22
ARMOR
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=4b90ea3f5e
GAUNLET
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=7aed35317d
LEGGINGS
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=89861547e4
BOOTS
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=0f7190ff06

EDIT

@ SUPERLATANIUM

that would be correct.

@ MOZILLA BROWSER

BULLS EYE. so that explains 20% drop in stat rates . 2 MONTHS ABSENCE CAN DO A LOT OF THINGS . THANKS.

don't use full slaughter if you still cannot survive at hell RE (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

combine it with power of protection or plate (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


use weaken or silence if you still cannot survive RE (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

don't forget usual buff spells (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

This post has been edited by nobody_xxx: Jun 11 2015, 15:13

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Equipment level is still the same as player's level. It shouldn't make you weak (yet). 70% durability also won't discount stats. Maybe you've became inherently weak you start to blame things on everything except yourself.

I think I know what might have happened.
Check your log to see what the mobs were doing
PL Mobs substantially increased at near our levels.

Between 200 and 210 IWBTH and Ninten RE became alot easier but after level 210 MOBS suddenly using a lot more nasty SP attacks. (unless I'm imaganing things again EDIT 2 maybe I'm just unlucky getting some strange mobs combo sometimes hurts like hell with like 5 mobs other time don't even need to pay attention and like all 10 mobs)

If you unlucky you find one shotted by like 3 Mobs+ casting Holy or what not all at the same time (EDIT forgot to mention at full health which when it happen to me was 8k hp)

Cut straight through spirit shield. Only SoL will save (yeah was being lazy never been killed with spirit shield on until now)

BTW OMG Legendary repairs are so bloody expensive, will be forced to de-equip soon as upkeep is too high especially after death.

This post has been edited by rfEH: Jun 11 2015, 17:05

@karyl123

1. Good to know regarding potions

2. If i had known catalyst would not be an issue in patch 0.82 i would have bought / invested into 3 figures set earlier

but i still am collecting money for the said set which would now be IMPOSSIBLE becuse perma level cap.

end moral : the strong shall always prey on the weak . end of story.

there's no such things as perma level cap.
you could soulfuse your equipment so it would level a long with your level just like before.
http://ehwiki.org/wiki/soulfuse#SoulFuse

and even if there's some "nerf" it wouldn't affect equipment generated before .82, so your weapon is still the same weapon from when you left before.

there's no such things as perma level cap.
you could soulfuse your equipment so it would level a long with your level just like before.
http://ehwiki.org/wiki/soulfuse#SoulFuse

and even if there's some "nerf" it wouldn't affect equipment generated before .82, so your weapon is still the same weapon from when you left before.

But he cannot soulfuse any equipment that 50 level above him, which is lv276+.
Do you think his dream sets are lv276-? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

All right new questions

Q. Now that nostalgia of potions and elixirs has returned ARE lesser , greater and heroic potion set the NEW obsolete potion set. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Q. Furthermore with the patch impacting the WTS section dispropotionately (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) . and tossing the shared free shiop into the inevitable retirement (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) so many question arise since by this year's christmas almost all the pre 0.82 equipment will run out of stock.

So any guesses when will post 0.82 items [potions and bulk amount scrap metal will be avilable on subsidized rates like crystal packs]

what wil be the new system established if any for equipment trade?

Q. IF getting killed will NERF STATS 10% EACH THEN WILL SAME EFFECT BE WARRANT FOR FLEEING ?

This post has been edited by derp-z2: Jun 11 2015, 17:09

But he cannot soulfuse any equipment that 50 level above him, which is lv276+.
Do you think his dream sets are lv276-? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

If his dream set is from .81 then there's posibility that his drem set is still unassigned then (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) either that or somebody else already bought it

All right new questions

Q. Now that nostalgia of potions and elixirs has returned ARE lesser , greater and heroic potion set the NEW obsolete potion set. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

yes and they will be purged soon, better use them all or sell them to bazaar.

Q. Furthermore with the patch impacting the WTS section dispropotionately (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) . and tossing the shared free shiop into the inevitable retirement (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) so many question arise since by this year's christmas almost all the pre 0.82 equipment will run out of stock.

So any guesses when will post 0.82 items [potions and bulk amount scrap metal will be avilable on subsidized rates like crystal packs]

what wil be the new system established if any for equipment trade?

the reason free shop is closed is because the new system makes higher level unable to donate their newly obtained equipment to lower level.
and wts still working fine, it's jsut that the number of buyer is limited to those with lvl around the weapon level - but it's not like that you couldn't sell your peerless or good leg to lvl 400+ catgirls, it's just that you can't equip stuff from those lvl 400+, feel free to buy tough.
when will we see people selling cheap potions? maybe never since there's still people complaining that draught and potion drop didn't really cover their draught and potion consumption rate.

what kind of new system you're asking for?

Q. IF getting killed will NERF STATS 10% EACH THEN WILL SAME EFFECT BE WARRANT FOR FLEEING ?

killed didn't effect equipment stats, it just the durability, and as long as it's still above 50%, then it's still as good as new.
and no, fleeing didn't give penalty to durability.

This post has been edited by Fudo Masamune: Jun 11 2015, 17:20

Q. Now that nostalgia of potions and elixirs has returned ARE lesser , greater and heroic potion set the NEW obsolete potion set. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

This doesn't make any sense and is not a question.

So any guesses when will post 0.82 items [potions and bulk amount scrap metal will be avilable on subsidized rates like crystal packs]

No point in speculating - you'll almost certainly be too high level to take advantage of the free shop's generosity by the time that the answer is sorted out.

Q. IF getting killed will NERF STATS 10% EACH THEN WILL SAME EFFECT BE WARRANT FOR FLEEING ?

Fleeing does not decrease equipment durability. Caps lock is not cruise control for cool.

I read somewhere in this thread that overpower potency is actually good, but I modified HV STAT to gather monster parry/resist/evade data and after playing for a while on PFUDOR exclusively I got the monster parry rate of 1.72% with 4 lvls of overpower on my weapon. This means that actual monster parry was ~2,04% and overpower is the most useless potency there is for a weapon.

I remember time when there was a lot of whining about parrying monsters. Was that changed?
I don't recall any patch notes like that.

Is overpower potency actually any good? What is your take on that?

If you want to use that modified HV STAT then go to the end its thread on the forum and replace the files I posted there. I modified 5.6.8.2 version.

I read somewhere in this thread that overpower potency is actually good, but I modified HV STAT to gather monster parry/resist/evade data and after playing for a while on PFUDOR exclusively I got the monster parry rate of 1.72% with 4 lvls of overpower on my weapon. This means that actual monster parry was ~2,04% and overpower is the most useless potency there is for a weapon.

I remember time when there was a lot of whining about parrying monsters. Was that changed?
I don't recall any patch notes like that.

Is overpower potency actually any good? What is your take on that?

If you want to use that modified HV STAT then go to the end its thread on the forum and replace the files I posted there. I modified 5.6.8.2 version.

Just going to assume you're playing 1H-Shield.
In this case Overpower is pretty much useless due to Overwhelming Strikes (-20% enemy parry per stack).

It's more useful for 2H or DW since they don't have Overwhelming Strikes and actually get some parries.

Just going to assume you're playing 1H-Shield.
In this case Overpower is pretty much useless due to Overwhelming Strikes (-20% enemy parry per stack).

It's more useful for 2H or DW since they don't have Overwhelming Strikes and actually get some parries.

Right! I forgot about overhelming strike. Will play with DW for a while to check again.

Right! I forgot about overhelming strike. Will play with DW for a while to check again.

little rant contribution in niten side.
Even with 8 overpower Tsukiko gives 6 parries in 21 strikes. While Sai Bunny holds the parry combo record: 5x in a row.

little rant contribution in niten side.
Even with 8 overpower Tsukiko gives 6 parries in 21 strikes. While Sai Bunny holds the parry combo record: 5x in a row.

Oh god that sucks, I guess I that's one of the reasons why almost everyone use 1H.

Oh god that sucks, I guess I that's one of the reasons why almost everyone use 1H.

Parry is one of the reason. Defense and Offend are the main reason.
1H have all 3. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
2H have none.
DW is in middle.
Niten need to depend on skill, which is troublesome.

New shields looks pretty:
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=e25ccd9ed0

Its only M, but its near my good L force shield.

After playing DW until now I have to say that it is just painful.
Monsters parry 17,12% attacks with 6 overpower on my two weapons. This means ~22.52% parry without overpower. My data pool was 408 monsters on PFUDOR killed. I know that it is bearly enough to be statisticly significant, but the parry value seemd to have stabilized.

I couldn't play any more, It is just a hell when compared to 1H.

The conclusion from my data is that 1 lvl of overpower on PFUDOR gives ~1,11% damage boost.