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post Jun 6 2015, 21:07
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Okay. Then change of plan: Become a Food Critic. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)


And get killed by my cholesterol levels? I barely know you, why do you want me dead? I never did something wrong to you. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
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post Jun 6 2015, 21:11
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And get killed by my cholesterol levels? I barely know you, why do you want me dead? I never did something wrong to you. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

Okay, Okay. Then what about being a Cryptocurrency Miner? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Jun 6 2015, 21:34
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jun 6 2015, 21:38) *

have high INT/WIS, but not sure whether it means high resist or not


Wis. It actually can be quite important. 1600pl celestial with full chaos update has 18,9% resist. With 0 counter its almost each 2nd attack.


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post Jun 6 2015, 22:31
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Why did the Legendary Charged Cotton Shoes of the Elementalist in Komica Island Auction #87 sell for 18.7M? I was under the impression that phase was worth more than cloth.
Also, that 55M finish on the Legendary Agile Shade Breastplate of The Shadowdancer was insane. I was under the impression that the most popular playing styles were Mage (fastest clearing speed) followed by 1H Power (balance between cost effectiveness and clearing speed). What advantage does 2H/DW/Niten have over Mage and 1H Power?
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post Jun 6 2015, 22:35
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1H Power (balance between cost effectiveness and clearing speed).


Dont forget the survivability, with high enough stats only void capable mage monster are a threat in arenas.
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post Jun 6 2015, 22:50
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QUOTE(CronoBoA @ Jun 6 2015, 23:31) *

Why did the sell for 18.7M?


Look at stats.
http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Equipment_Ranges_Clothes
Its P+0,2 proficiency. Nice amount and thats very important for mages. Also it has prefix and crush mitg. I think even Lmax prof can be sold for 1-2m and thats better than even Pmax. That light also has insane stats, so some rich players was increasing price more and more.

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post Jun 6 2015, 23:29
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Thank you for taking the time to answer my questions, but neither of you said anything I didn't already know. Let me phrase:
1) Why is Magic Proficiency worth more than Elemental Damage Bonus?
2) Why would someone play 2H/DW/Niten instead of Mage or 1H Power?
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post Jun 7 2015, 00:03
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Thats not worth more than good phase equivalent. Look at any P+ edb phase.

Here is example:
Lmax. 28.5m
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=7fe7fdeddc

And thats not even close to old P-range. Same reason for light. Actually maybe they dont even gonna use it because light atm is weak, but its incredibly good roll and it has potential. Its not big difference compare to even Mmax, right? But think about it in a bit different way.

If person have 1m than he knows where to sell artifact for 11k and where same cost 10k.
If person have 10m than he doesnt rly care about something lower than 100k. Thats all fine.
If person have 100m than he doesnt rly care about something what worth only 1m.

And here we speak about ppl who have...maybe 1000m? Some can buy it because they want exclusive item.
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post Jun 7 2015, 00:05
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QUOTE(CronoBoA @ Jun 7 2015, 08:29) *

Thank you for taking the time to answer my questions, but neither of you said anything I didn't already know. Let me phrase:
1) Why is Magic Proficiency worth more than Elemental Damage Bonus?
2) Why would someone play 2H/DW/Niten instead of Mage or 1H Power?


2) Because they can, it's up to them how they want to play a game. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Jun 7 2015, 01:19
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QUOTE(CronoBoA @ Jun 6 2015, 23:29) *
Thank you for taking the time to answer my questions, but neither of you said anything I didn't already know. Let me phrase:
1) Why is Magic Proficiency worth more than Elemental Damage Bonus?
2) Why would someone play 2H/DW/Niten instead of Mage or 1H Power?

(1) Removing the need to cast imperil is nice. Try maging at your current level, now imagine what happen when you're maging at over 400, you'll know what I'm talking about.

(2) Why not? I saw that you constantly played at PF everywhere. With your current gear, it will need a long time (are you on a leave?). It is a sound strategy to play at lower difficulty to save time. But, doing so with 1H is not optimal, hence the other style. This is more the case when you are at the point when you can start maging but will not be very efficient with it.

About why Agile Shade of Shadowdancer fetch such a high price, well, they rarely turn up. Combine good roll with rarity, price will be wild! Oh, and some time ago there is player who experimented with that rare prefixes. He compared the performance of agile shade set versus savage set (mind you, set!). I don't know if he also play around with reinforced shade set. If he did, well, it's amusing.
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post Jun 7 2015, 01:22
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QUOTE(CronoBoA @ Jun 6 2015, 21:29) *
1) Why is Magic Proficiency worth more than Elemental Damage Bonus?
A mage with high proficiency - 1.8 to 2.0 or so - can clear lower difficulties without Imperil much more easily than someone who uses full Phase. That's what most prefer to do, because it means one can use SpellSpam instead of manual Imperil/target-Imperil/target-Imperil/target-T3.

Full Phase, used with Imperil, might be more efficient in terms of turns per round, when played on high difficulty (and less damage taken due to lower action speed of Imperil), but turns per second also takes a very sharp dive due to time required to press Imperil key and press target monster key. It's also much more tedious and you have to actually pay a good amount of attention instead of watching something in another window while playing.

So, most probably prefer to have 1 or 2 proficiency gears in addition to phase.

There's also rarity to take into consideration. Well-rolled L Phase is, at least now, relatively common. Any L Phase that drops for someone will likely have (0.81) M to L EDB, or higher... when before [Arena Clear Bonus! [Legendary Radiant Phase Shoes of Freyr]] EDB could well be terrible. L Phase of any element is probably a whole lot more likely than L cotton of Elementalist.

Elemental mages of every element who want prof have to share the same cotton Elementalist suffix, which itself is depressingly uncommon - so, since it drops so rarely but most want it - price is very high.

At least, that's my theory.
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post Jun 7 2015, 01:37
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How do I put a price on eq I want to sell? What do I consider? I have few unassigned mags, lower level mags and high level mags. Only one leg. Do you need me to post a list here?
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post Jun 7 2015, 01:50
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QUOTE(Unsibscribed @ Jun 7 2015, 01:37) *
How do I put a price on eq I want to sell? What do I consider? I have few unassigned mags, lower level mags and high level mags. Only one leg. Do you need me to post a list here?

Have a keen sense of supply and demand. Lurk and observe.
Or do skimming price strategy. Or just put prices randomly. Or put it in auction. Or just give the good ones to me.
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post Jun 7 2015, 01:51
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QUOTE(Unsibscribed @ Jun 6 2015, 23:37) *
How do I put a price on eq I want to sell? What do I consider? I have few unassigned mags, lower level mags and high level mags. Only one leg. Do you need me to post a list here?
Most Plate, Leather, and Cotton is probably junk, with the exception of well rolled prof cotton and maybe Plate of Protection (Shielding hopefully). Rapiers of Slaughter/Balance are good, most everything else melee isn't, at least not in this patch. Rare tier gear is much more likely to be worthwhile, especially Power Slaughter. Maybe just post list.
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post Jun 7 2015, 01:53
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QUOTE(clarkiest @ Jun 7 2015, 01:50) *

Have a keen sense of supply and demand. Lurk and observe.
Or do skimming price strategy. Or just put prices randomly. Or put it in auction. Or just give the good ones to me.

One Average Estoc @5m coming up, (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Thanks, I'll consider an auction.


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post Jun 7 2015, 02:52
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Jun 7 2015, 01:51) *

Most Plate, Leather, and Cotton is probably junk, with the exception of well rolled prof cotton and maybe Plate of Protection (Shielding hopefully). Rapiers of Slaughter/Balance are good, most everything else melee isn't, at least not in this patch. Rare tier gear is much more likely to be worthwhile, especially Power Slaughter. Maybe just post list.


If I get >2mil, it's all good.

Magnificent Arctic Wakizashi of the Nimble
Magnificent Tempestuous Wakizashi of Balance
Magnificent Katana of Slaughter
Magnificent Onyx Plate Cuirass of Dampening
Magnificent Ruby Leather Breastplate of Dampening
Magnificent Shielding Plate Greaves of Warding
Legendary Cobalt Power Leggings of Protection


EDIT: Sorry for double post, I thought I could delete my own posts.

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post Jun 7 2015, 02:57
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QUOTE(Unsibscribed @ Jun 7 2015, 02:52) *
Magnificent Tempestuous Wakizashi of Balance[/url]
Legendary Cobalt Power Leggings of Protection

You might have demand for these two.
No, the legendary power legging most definitely have a demand.

As for the rest, good luck.
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post Jun 7 2015, 03:49
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QUOTE(clarkiest @ Jun 6 2015, 19:19) *
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Thank you, that was very well explained.
As for my play time, I usually only run Dreamfall through The Trio and the Tree, some REs, and FSM while above 79 Stamina because those seven arenas give the best experience per round per hour and REs give the best equipment drops (four of my eight legendaries came from REs). I clear those arenas in roughly two hours using infusions and only run other arenas if I'm feeling frisky.
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post Jun 7 2015, 04:25
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post Jun 7 2015, 04:28
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