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post Jun 6 2015, 18:49
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QUOTE(erwtsnert @ Jun 7 2015, 01:16) *

Around 200k profit for each full hellfest. Top mages can clear hellfest in around 6000 rounds. Assuming 3.5 t/s that's 29 minutes.

Some basic maths later, turns out it takes 138 hours of playing for 55m. Add some more hours if you're not a top mage and 180 hours is not that far off.


Er I clear it in 4800 turns (even in 0.81 I cleared in 5200 turns), and I'm far from being top. That's also a clear with ether tap too (though it's far less extensive than what I used to do). Now if only I could have good ping T.T

Still though, I would expect a mage with fully forged radiant + 2.0 prof + asshatter to clear it in 4000-4200 turns

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post Jun 6 2015, 19:15
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Jun 6 2015, 23:49) *

Er I clear it in 4800 turns (even in 0.81 I cleared in 5200 turns), and I'm far from being top. That's also a clear with ether tap too (though it's far less extensive than what I used to do). Now if only I could have good ping T.T

Still though, I would expect a mage with fully forged radiant + 2.0 prof + asshatter to clear it in 4000-4200 turns

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post Jun 6 2015, 19:16
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Even faster. I think even 3k possibly or lower. With 30% damage perk and heavy forge. Because its so high damage that even giant die in 2-3 turns.
But im not sure 3,5 t/s is possibly for mage. Maybe only with 5 ia slots, prof build and very-very good defense.

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post Jun 6 2015, 19:20
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Jun 7 2015, 00:16) *

Even faster. I think even 3k possibly or lower. With 30% damage perk and heavy forge. Because its so high damage that even giant die in 2-3 turns.
But im not sure 3,5 t/s is possibly for mage. Maybe only with 5 ia slots, prof build and very-very good defense.

just ask danixxx how fast he clearing it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

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post Jun 6 2015, 19:28
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Jun 7 2015, 03:15) *

how many tab you open , holy (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)


I keep EH gallery there to download later (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

QUOTE(nec1986 @ Jun 7 2015, 03:16) *

Even faster. I think even 3k possibly or lower. With 30% damage perk and heavy forge. Because its so high damage that even giant die in 2-3 turns.
But im not sure 3,5 t/s is possibly for mage. Maybe only with 5 ia slots, prof build and very-very good defense.


The toughest mob for holy is celestial, not giant. They could make a round go for as long as 6 turns. Other elements will also have its "nemesis" mob that effectively cap their clear speed.
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post Jun 6 2015, 19:34
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Jun 6 2015, 18:49) *

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25 crystalls at the end of hellfest? So i guess you cant even trust the wiki about that.
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post Jun 6 2015, 19:38
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jun 6 2015, 19:07) *

whatever, even me and you may be a she behind a monitor (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jun 6 2015, 19:19) *

doh. true enough. well, i guess it's a bit too hot here.

Same weather here. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jun 6 2015, 19:19) *

i'll go look for some boobies to regain my mind (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Don't. You'll die from the heat before you find some. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jun 6 2015, 19:51) *

huh. playing 6 hours/day for such many days isn't playing anymore (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

I wonder how many hours do "botters" play? 24/7? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

QUOTE(Void Domain @ Jun 6 2015, 19:56) *

All you need is run h@h and get 500 hath per day (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

500 hath per day???????????????????
www.how.com

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money is something i just have heart rumors about. That it is mystical stuff made of paper colorful and you can get stuff for it. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Get a job. You'll experience the myth 1st hand. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

QUOTE(Void Domain @ Jun 6 2015, 20:11) *

Well the hard truth is this game is pay to win (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

The question is: How much is that amount? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

QUOTE(cirrux @ Jun 6 2015, 20:15) *

What is this mystical win you speak of? ww

Tenboro has said this: "If you pay enough, I'll even replace the HV interface for you with a big 'You are Winner' text". (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) (Forgot where I read that)

QUOTE(m118w11 @ Jun 6 2015, 20:15) *

It's a pay to not win game.

Nope. It's a "Pay or don't pay, you're not gonna win either way" game. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

QUOTE(nec1986 @ Jun 6 2015, 20:27) *

55m isnt very much. Good mage can earn it in 180 hours. I mean, yea, its huge amount of time for one game, but its not like something impossibly even without donations.

Have anyone done that before? Except Botters / Multi Accounters? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

QUOTE(nec1986 @ Jun 6 2015, 22:15) *

How you buy slaughter bindings than?

Man O man. You still believe what he says? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

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post Jun 6 2015, 19:39
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Why celestial? Resist? or some specific strong mobs? I mean mech has better defense with same holy mitg. I thought giant is bigger problem, because they have much better mmi and health.

QUOTE(tetron @ Jun 6 2015, 20:38) *

Have anyone done that before?


It looks not very hard for forged mage. I think cat even with 1h has it. His clearspeed is huge. Prof mage is easy too and its very similar to 1h playstyle.
Now crystals becomes a bit cheaper, so its harder, but mage with 1.5t/s can clear hellfest per hour. Its something like 32k crystals, 35k credits, 20k gear drop and 50k other drop like amnesia. I dont count artifacts, because its compensate stamina. So its already 250k per hour.

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post Jun 6 2015, 19:47
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Jun 6 2015, 23:09) *

Why celestial? Resist? or some specific strong mobs? I mean mech has better defense with same holy mitg. I thought giant is bigger problem, because they have much better mmi and health.

Mechanoids don't have Void Attacks. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Jun 6 2015, 19:54
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Jun 7 2015, 03:39) *

Why celestial? Resist? or some specific strong mobs? I mean mech has better defense with same holy mitg. I thought giant is bigger problem, because they have much better mmi and health.


at low difficulty, health doesn't matter; a full T3 hit will kill everything anyway. Pretty much only resist does, and specific mit/mmi to a lesser extent (mostly for the 50% resist case). Giant/Arthropod are only more dangerous in higher difficulty (and a nightmare on pfudor due to resist bonus)

Oh yeah, i almost forget, you're capped by your T3 cooldown too, so it's impossible to go faster than 4000 turns (for T2 to have the same ohko effect as T1, you probably need an absurdly high magic score). And if you consider the turns for healing/buff/item, that would be another 200 turns.

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post Jun 6 2015, 19:55
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QUOTE(tetron @ Jun 6 2015, 19:38) *

Get a job. You'll experience the myth 1st hand. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


Where do you life that a job mean money insteed of backache, overtime and some guy everyone call boss, who is yelling the whole day? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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post Jun 6 2015, 20:25
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QUOTE(Stulpen @ Jun 6 2015, 23:25) *

Where do you life that a job mean money insteed of backache, overtime and some guy everyone call boss, who is yelling the whole day? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Open you own company? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Jun 6 2015, 20:31
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QUOTE(tetron @ Jun 6 2015, 20:25) *

Open you own company? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


To be the guy who is yelling the whole day? Please think about my blood pressure.
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Jun 6 2015, 19:28) *

The toughest mob for holy is celestial, not giant. They could make a round go for as long as 6 turns. Other elements will also have its "nemesis" mob that effectively cap their clear speed.

they are weak to all physical attacks though. just wondering, how would it sound to arcane-bling them on their head just to stun them?

QUOTE(nec1986 @ Jun 6 2015, 19:39) *

Why celestial? Resist? or some specific strong mobs? I mean mech has better defense with same holy mitg.

celestials also have a high AGI to begin with, which means high evade. they also have high INT/WIS, but not sure whether it means high resist or not

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Open you own company? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

and then start yelling to your own employees? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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QUOTE(Stulpen @ Jun 7 2015, 00:01) *

To be the guy who is yelling the whole day? Please think about my blood pressure.

Okay. Then change of plan: Become a Food Critic. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

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and then start yelling to your own employees? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

You can just record the yelling and play it back every day at the office. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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You can just record the yelling and play it back every day at the office. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

you are a damn genius, did you know it? too bad you weren't born with some nice assets
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Jun 6 2015, 09:49) *

Er I clear it in 4800 turns (even in 0.81 I cleared in 5200 turns), and I'm far from being top. That's also a clear with ether tap too (though it's far less extensive than what I used to do). Now if only I could have good ping T.T

Still though, I would expect a mage with fully forged radiant + 2.0 prof + asshatter to clear it in 4000-4200 turns

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What's extension gives the second window? The one with number of potions consumed, etc... That would be very helpful in letting me determine what difficulty is worth the time...
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post Jun 6 2015, 20:51
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jun 7 2015, 00:17) *

you are a damn genius, did you know it?

Am I? Didn't know that. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jun 7 2015, 00:17) *

too bad you weren't born with some nice assets

For example? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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QUOTE(tetron @ Jun 6 2015, 20:51) *

For example? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

a good bunch of industries so you may gift us all catgirl status (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jun 7 2015, 00:23) *

a good bunch of industries so you may gift us all catgirl status (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

So, you don't want the "You are Winner" text? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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