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post Jun 2 2015, 17:58
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jun 2 2015, 17:52) *

whatever. it wasn't so bad at all. now, how's going on?


Still but 2 and fat 2. Stamina is played for today and because snowflake hates me i dont have an ED. So RE only for the rest of the day.
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post Jun 2 2015, 17:59
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QUOTE(Fudo Masamune @ Jun 2 2015, 20:53) *

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=f0a260e191

what do you think? all pab stats are around .81 P range block chance is P+2 mitigation on L-0.08&E

it might takes years before getting force shiled instead (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
good enough to soulbind&upgrade?

Speaking as 1H melee, mmax+ (as old wiki) force shield + 25+ times block forging is still the way to survive.
BTW it seems that new force shields have better block stats than before, say, legendary one has P value (of 0.81 wiki)

QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Jun 2 2015, 20:52) *

wow (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

my best turns again TT&T is around 340 turns (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

QUOTE(clarkiest @ Jun 2 2015, 22:22) *

You did triple trio in 250 max?
I did FSM in 420 turns. Even with infusions I only cut it down to 330. I am doing something very wrong.

This is the screenshot at Dec. 21th, 2014. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Jun 2 2015, 18:13
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jun 2 2015, 21:22) *

now i'm using a garbage i found in my inventory for a while (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Soulfused? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jun 2 2015, 21:22) *

mixed? you mean various shade types, don't you? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Nope: Phase + Shade + Power. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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post Jun 2 2015, 18:29
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QUOTE(tetron @ Jun 2 2015, 17:44) *

With 2 Lmax prof, 50x forge and prof perk i could get same result as current imperil
Really? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


It should be for low difficulty. With 265% edb i have average 3,33 for only my attacks. And almost 4 turns for imperil. So after all changes its something very similar. But probably a bit faster and easier, because its almost constant 1 and 6 in 1h way.

QUOTE(mozilla browser @ Jun 2 2015, 17:58) *

Yes, I still feel that imperil is very important for a mage. Proficiency doesn't provide similar Mmi reduction.


Yep. Imperil is very strong. The only problem with it long casting. It doesnt work very well on low diff, and on high diff with 5 phase i have defense problem. So it looks much better to use mage only with at least 10m budget. Or better 20-30m. So i returned back to 1h, because its easy, safe, no mana problems and ~200k profit after full hellclear.
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post Jun 2 2015, 18:36
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QUOTE(Stulpen @ Jun 2 2015, 17:58) *

Still but 2 and fat 2. Stamina is played for today and because snowflake hates me i dont have an ED. So RE only for the rest of the day.

good, i'd say

QUOTE(tetron @ Jun 2 2015, 18:13) *

Soulfused? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

nothing soulfused atm. i barely reached the needed amount to soulfuse one piece, so it's out of discussion for now

QUOTE(tetron @ Jun 2 2015, 18:13) *

Nope: Phase + Shade + Power. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

to boost either EDB, MDB, ADB and evade. you're an old fox, aren't you? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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post Jun 2 2015, 19:12
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Jun 2 2015, 21:59) *

It should be for low difficulty. With 265% edb i have average 3,33 for only my attacks. And almost 4 turns for imperil. So after all changes its something very similar. But probably a bit faster and easier, because its almost constant 1 and 6 in 1h way.

Define "Low Difficulty". (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

QUOTE(nec1986 @ Jun 2 2015, 21:59) *

So it looks much better to use mage only with at least 10m budget. Or better 20-30m.

I've denied this fact before, and I'm still denying it now. Unforged Mage is very good, if you know how to play efficiently. I myself am a prime example of this situation. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jun 2 2015, 22:06) *

nothing soulfused atm. i barely reached the needed amount to soulfuse one piece, so it's out of discussion for now

Only one? Didn't you do any RE-hunt these days? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jun 2 2015, 22:06) *

to boost either EDB, MDB, ADB and evade.

Phase for Mage, Shade for Evade, Power for Power. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jun 2 2015, 22:06) *

you're an old fox, aren't you? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

Nope. I'm an old Duck. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool2.gif)
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post Jun 2 2015, 19:30
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QUOTE(tetron @ Jun 2 2015, 19:12) *

Only one? Didn't you do any RE-hunt these days? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

a bit, time-wise. my RL is a bit busy these days, and on the other hand this game isn't so thrilling anymore (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Jun 2 2015, 19:37
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jun 2 2015, 23:00) *

my RL is a bit busy these days

Become a Holy/Dark mage. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jun 2 2015, 23:00) *

this game isn't so thrilling anymore (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

I think you're mistaking "thrilling" with "profitable". (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Jun 2 2015, 19:38
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You gain +25% resistance to Holy elemental attacks and do 25% more damage with Holy magicks
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As a wizard I can't see the bonus after using it. Can anyone explain the mechanism? Is there some kind of cap? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

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post Jun 2 2015, 19:43
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QUOTE(Laboq @ Jun 3 2015, 01:38) *

As a wizard I can't see the bonus after using it. Can anyone explain the mechanism? Is there some kind of cap? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Use it in battle for damage.
Use it in forge for resistance.

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post Jun 2 2015, 19:46
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QUOTE(tetron @ Jun 2 2015, 19:37) *

Become a Holy/Dark mage. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

nah, it would become not-so-mindless-playing anymore (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

QUOTE(tetron @ Jun 2 2015, 19:37) *

I think you're mistaking "thrilling" with "profitable". (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

whatever... truth to be told, nowadays i'm only raising a bit my old collection and trying to re-open my shop for a last ditch effort. let's see whenever i'll be able to do it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

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post Jun 2 2015, 19:51
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QUOTE(Colman @ Jun 2 2015, 19:43) *

Use it in battle for damage.

Again: I can't see the add. damage in a battle after using it. Yet I get it after RiddleMaster's blessing (10% buff). WTF?
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post Jun 2 2015, 19:55
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QUOTE(tetron @ Jun 2 2015, 20:12) *

Define "Low Difficulty". (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


Hell or even nintendo. Id not say low budget mage is bad. 5 phase with imperil works nice. I just have a bit better 1h, so for me only expensive mage is better.
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post Jun 2 2015, 19:59
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btw, is cotton of protection still useless, albeit leg-grade?
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post Jun 2 2015, 20:07
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yes

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post Jun 2 2015, 20:11
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QUOTE(Laboq @ Jun 2 2015, 23:21) *

Again: I can't see the add. damage in a battle after using it. Yet I get it after RiddleMaster's blessing (10% buff). WTF?

If that's true, then I repeat your word: WTF????? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

QUOTE(nec1986 @ Jun 2 2015, 23:25) *

Hell or even nintendo. Id not say low budget mage is bad. 5 phase with imperil works nice. I just have a bit better 1h, so for me only expensive mage is better.

I've been wondering for a long time if there are actually any mages who got their active set from self drop. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jun 2 2015, 23:29) *

btw, is cotton of protection still useless, albeit leg-grade?

Maybe. If I get a Peerless frugal Shoe/Pant, I won't mind using it. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Jun 2 2015, 20:39
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QUOTE(Laboq @ Jun 3 2015, 02:51) *

Again: I can't see the add. damage in a battle after using it. Yet I get it after RiddleMaster's blessing (10% buff). WTF?

You get +25% holy EDB when you use infusion of divinity on battle.
Note that it's not x1.25 to current EDB, just +25 to current EDB.
For example, if your EDB is 290% on holy, it would be 315% after using the infusion.
So you can't easily know the difference between before and after, especially you have already high EDB.

You can see the exact difference with EDB 0 like this:
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QUOTE(Cats Lover @ Jun 2 2015, 20:39) *
Note that it's not x1.25 to current EDB, just +25 to current EDB.

Just as I thought, thanks! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

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post Jun 2 2015, 21:37
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QUOTE(Cats Lover @ Jun 3 2015, 00:09) *

You get +25% holy EDB when you use infusion of divinity on battle.
Note that it's not x1.25 to current EDB, just +25 to current EDB.
For example, if your EDB is 290% on holy, it would be 315% after using the infusion.
So you can't easily know the difference between before and after, especially you have already high EDB.

You can see the exact difference with EDB 0 like this:
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Man, this is depressing to hear. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Jun 3 2015, 02:45
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New-ish player and I've strictly played as an elemental mage so far so all of my proficiencies are with cloth, staff and magic. With the recent changes, I'm wanting to attempt higher difficulties but in Nightmare or harder, I'll push through until I hit a round of about 7-9 enemies which together deal enough damage to kill me in one round. In Hard, I can last through arenas with mild mana potion use and don't seem to have the same die in one round issues.

I don't think buying new equipment is an option in the new patch because of my low level and my current equipment feels like it's slowly getting more and more out of date(25 levels behind already), but the best drops I'm getting (up to superior so far) still aren't improvements to defense and are worse or barely better in other stats.




So, my question

Is staying an elemental mage an option with higher difficulties and I'm just doing something wrong, or do I have to switch styles until I'm at a higher level?




For reference (stats and stuff)

Staff http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=c2ed02e8fc
Cap http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=9340a00f4e
Robe http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=0a5e509a5c
Gloves http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=bd2e4855d1
Pants http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=f335e4209d
Shoes http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=65265b5e32

str: 0
dex: 0
agi: 142
end: 142
int: 167
wis: 167

I've got the first two auto-cast perks and none others

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