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Jun 1 2015, 17:34
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nec1986
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Maybe 100-300k. Its not very bad, but prof only 60 and edb 43.
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Jun 1 2015, 17:50
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helno
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Jun 2 2015, 01:34)  Maybe 100-300k. Its not very bad, but prof only 60 and edb 43.
That made me curious! My equipment script comparator says element prof and edb are Mmax+ Not challenging you or anything but my limited knowledge of maging has raised a query on how high should those be to be good or excellent?
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Jun 1 2015, 18:02
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tetron
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QUOTE(helno @ Jun 1 2015, 21:20)  That made me curious! My equipment script comparator says element prof and edb are Mmax+
Not challenging you or anything but my limited knowledge of maging has raised a query on how high should those be to be good or excellent?
Just think about it. Right now only really high level players can buy gears from low level players for active usage. And really high level players usually search for Leg grade gears, not mag grade ones. Mag market is now very limited. This post has been edited by tetron: Jun 1 2015, 18:03
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Jun 1 2015, 18:42
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nec1986
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Yep. Stats is nice, but soulbinding system is very bad for all non-top gears. Also wind mages use willow staff, but it has lower stats.
First, redwood has supportive prof (bonus to cure in new patch). So its quite good. Instead willow has pretty depr with counter-resist, but redwood also has a bit depr and its prof+edb is stronger. For my lvl even Mmax gives 50.2 and 79,47. Thats quite big difference (with forge its almost 0.1 prof factor like 1000hath perk). And for my level and similar mages near it its more important. Top mages still can buy willow if they want slightly less resist (and their power anyway already huge).
This post has been edited by nec1986: Jun 1 2015, 18:42
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Jun 1 2015, 18:49
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teenyman45
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I've soulfused one gear as an experiment and will be soulfusing a weapon soon. Fortunately, at 50-60 fragments per item and a drop rate of about 4-6 per day depending on your luck with random encounters, soulfusing is not that painful as long as you are fine with salvaging the gear to recover bindings and mats rather than having an intent to sell it later.
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Jun 1 2015, 18:56
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(rfEH @ Jun 1 2015, 13:14)  nice rapier. good PA stats, good element and good overall stats. QUOTE(Nottle @ Jun 1 2015, 13:20)  I heard the retired potions will be removed soon. That means all of them should be sell to the bazaar as soon as possible?
yup. or traded, sold in WTS/WTB - whatever, before they are retired QUOTE(Dan31 @ Jun 1 2015, 13:22)  Also, wow, suffixless stuff.
they were reintroduced in this current patch. they are less or more trollish drop among a trollish bazaar QUOTE(clarkiest @ Jun 1 2015, 13:33)  Why should we laugh? But 10B should see this.
and not giving a fuck (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) QUOTE(tetron @ Jun 1 2015, 13:34)  You're drifting off-topic. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) What I said was a "Right Now" scenario. What you're saying is "Soon to Happen" scenario. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) but yes, the future of the newbies are grimm. but not so wrong. as runner of FS from the very start and keeper of a big (maybe not-so-interesting, but surely big) free section i can tell you that in the recent past newbies used to rely too much on freebies. i mean, i saw my first gift at lv250 or so - it was a 2PAB EMax force shield, iirc and it seemed like blessing to me. recieving many things for free means that you won't understand the value of what you have, including whether it's trash or not, whether you have to replace it - and when, blah blah blah... in one word, you will end up with a biased gameplay imo. apart for relying on senpais' experience (which is a good thing) newbies should really start to chat/help each other, especially in this condition when gears are forced within a certain level range QUOTE(tetron @ Jun 1 2015, 15:36)  Well, frankly speaking, the gears that are dropping right now, I don't see any future of them in the low level market. Leveling is super fast in the <200 range. Non-soulfused gears can easily lag behind in just a few days.
yup. this is one of the main reasons because me and piyin currently don't really know what to do with FS. we may give away everything is still in stock but a big amount of those items (like non-slaughter power armors, non-slaughter weapons etc etc) are already obsolete, and this super-fast leveling will soon make obsolete all the rest - even without considering those are pretty limited stocks. someone (boulay, iirc) suggested to make a subsequent giveaway: i give an item the first time to a lv200, then re-give it to a lv150, recycle to a lv50 and so on... but it would be quite time-consuming. any suggestions appreciated, but i don't see an easy solution
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Jun 1 2015, 19:06
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helno
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QUOTE(tetron @ Jun 2 2015, 02:02)  Just think about it. Right now only really high level players can buy gears from low level players for active usage. And really high level players usually search for Leg grade gears, not mag grade ones. Mag market is now very limited.
I keep forgetting the minimum extra 1m+ overhead for soulfusing and also our current state of the market. It is pretty sad that Mag now with their already shitty high chance of 2 PABs now have dropped another tier in usefulness thanks to soulfusing. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) QUOTE(nec1986 @ Jun 2 2015, 02:42)  Yep. Stats is nice, but soulbinding system is very bad for all non-top gears. Also wind mages use willow staff, but it has lower stats.
First, redwood has supportive prof (bonus to cure in new patch). So its quite good. Instead willow has pretty depr with counter-resist, but redwood also has a bit depr and its prof+edb is stronger. For my lvl even Mmax gives 50.2 and 79,47. Thats quite big difference (with forge its almost 0.1 prof factor like 1000hath perk). And for my level and similar mages near it its more important. Top mages still can buy willow if they want slightly less resist (and their power anyway already huge).
Ah that makes sense... so if I am interpreting this correctly, at lower levels (<400) then Destruction is better whereas at higher levels (>400) then Willow would be better?
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Jun 1 2015, 19:48
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tetron
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jun 1 2015, 22:26)  but not so wrong. as runner of FS from the very start and keeper of a big (maybe not-so-interesting, but surely big) free section i can tell you that in the recent past newbies used to rely too much on freebies. i mean, i saw my first gift at lv250 or so - it was a 2PAB EMax force shield, iirc and it seemed like blessing to me. recieving many things for free means that you won't understand the value of what you have, including whether it's trash or not, whether you have to replace it - and when, blah blah blah... in one word, you will end up with a biased gameplay imo.
Umm...Solid point. Didn't think like this. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif) QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jun 1 2015, 22:26)  apart for relying on senpais' experience (which is a good thing) newbies should really start to chat/help each other, especially in this condition when gears are forced within a certain level range yup. this is one of the main reasons because me and piyin currently don't really know what to do with FS. we may give away everything is still in stock but a big amount of those items (like non-slaughter power armors, non-slaughter weapons etc etc) are already obsolete, and this super-fast leveling will soon make obsolete all the rest - even without considering those are pretty limited stocks. someone (boulay, iirc) suggested to make a subsequent giveaway: i give an item the first time to a lv200, then re-give it to a lv150, recycle to a lv50 and so on... but it would be quite time-consuming. any suggestions appreciated, but i don't see an easy solution
Only way to help them may be is to IW some of their gears (At least Sup grade) for free. Other than that, I don't see any way out of this situation. QUOTE(helno @ Jun 1 2015, 22:36)  I keep forgetting the minimum extra 1m+ overhead for soulfusing and also our current state of the market. It is pretty sad that Mag now with their already shitty high chance of 2 PABs now have dropped another tier in usefulness thanks to soulfusing. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Yeah, I get 4/5 mag drops per day nowadays. But 90% of the time they are 2PAB. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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Jun 1 2015, 19:56
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(tetron @ Jun 1 2015, 19:48)  Only way to help them may be is to IW some of their gears (At least Sup grade) for free
maybe... QUOTE(tetron @ Jun 1 2015, 19:48)  Yeah, I get 4/5 mag drops per day nowadays. But 90% of the time they are 2PAB. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) which is still bearable should they be weapons or shields. a bit less for armors, especially shades
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Jun 1 2015, 20:00
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nec1986
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I d say top mage has already enough edb. 450lvl can easy got 500%. Also with perk he dont have much problem with prof. So its ok to use counter resist and high depr prof (for imperil). In other words if damage is high than small increase doesnt change much, but 50% resist is huge reduction.
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Jun 1 2015, 20:07
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tetron
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jun 1 2015, 23:26)  which is still bearable should they be weapons or shields. a bit less for armors, especially shades
They are usually common tier armor pieces, mostly cotton of warding/protection. Rarely 1h weapons. No shield, no Staff. And 2h? Just forget about it. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) QUOTE(nec1986 @ Jun 1 2015, 23:30)  I d say top mage has already enough edb. 450lvl can easy got 500%. Also with perk he dont have much problem with prof. So its ok to use counter resist and high depr prof (for imperil). In other words if damage is high than small increase doesnt change much, but 50% resist is huge reduction.
Increasing the counter resist of offensive spells is more effective than increasing the counter resist of deprecating spells. So Elemental proficiency is more important than Deprecating proficiency. This post has been edited by tetron: Jun 1 2015, 20:08
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Jun 1 2015, 20:13
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nec1986
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So, willow is bad for wind/elec mages?
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Jun 1 2015, 20:19
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Kazuki3
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jun 1 2015, 11:56)  but not so wrong. as runner of FS from the very start and keeper of a big (maybe not-so-interesting, but surely big) free section i can tell you that in the recent past newbies used to rely too much on freebies. i mean, i saw my first gift at lv250 or so - it was a 2PAB EMax force shield, iirc and it seemed like blessing to me. recieving many things for free means that you won't understand the value of what you have, including whether it's trash or not, whether you have to replace it - and when, blah blah blah... in one word, you will end up with a biased gameplay imo. apart for relying on senpais' experience (which is a good thing) newbies should really start to chat/help each other, especially in this condition when gears are forced within a certain level range
I wonder how many newbies didn't even know there was a fs before level 200 like me though lol I only noticed the whole hentaiverse forum thing after I was already 200 (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) On a different topic I was wondering if this would be a good shield for self use since it seems I'll be forced to play 1h/heavy, I can't really play mage anymore since I can barely handle nightmare with the new pot system so I decided to keep the drops I get that could make a ghetto 1h set to try it.
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Jun 1 2015, 20:22
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tetron
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Jun 1 2015, 23:43)  So, willow is bad for wind/elec mages?
While Willow is more Dark oriented, Redwood is purely optimized for Elemental. Willow's MDB is a bit higher than Redwood, and it also has that innate Counter-Resist. But It's Elemental EDB is pretty low.
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Jun 1 2015, 20:24
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tetron
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QUOTE(hentai_fusion @ Jun 1 2015, 23:49)  is it me or is there something really weird about this Exquisite Ethereal Club of Balance? What's so weird? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) QUOTE(Kazuki3 @ Jun 1 2015, 23:49)  On a different topic I was wondering if this would be a good shield for self use since it seems I'll be forced to play 1h/heavy, I can't really play mage anymore since I can barely handle nightmare with the new pot system so I decided to keep the drops I get that could make a ghetto 1h set to try it. At your level, it's fairly good for self use. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Jun 1 2015, 20:26
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(tetron @ Jun 1 2015, 20:07)  They are usually common tier armor pieces, mostly cotton of warding/protection. Rarely 1h weapons. No shield, no Staff. And 2h? Just forget about it. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) uhu. give me a shoutout should you find a decent ethereal mace/estoc then (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) QUOTE(tetron @ Jun 1 2015, 20:07)  Increasing the counter resist of offensive spells is more effective than increasing the counter resist of deprecating spells. So Elemental proficiency is more important than Deprecating proficiency.
furthermore counter-resist can still be gained via IW, thus stealing another main point of willow, unless you're going dark. btw, i found this one on bazaar. may it be useful for someone? QUOTE(hentai_fusion @ Jun 1 2015, 20:19)  is it me or is there something really weird about this Exquisite Ethereal Club of Balance? it doesn't seem to me. what was the weird thing? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif) QUOTE(Kazuki3 @ Jun 1 2015, 20:19)  On a different topic I was wondering if this would be a good shield for self use since it seems I'll be forced to play 1h/heavy, I can't really play mage anymore since I can barely handle nightmare with the new pot system so I decided to keep the drops I get that could make a ghetto 1h set to try it. yes, for self-use it's quite okay. also, you can surely forge first 10 levels in a cheap way
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Jun 1 2015, 21:26
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teenyman45
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What is the present preferred browser for playing hentaiverse on? Chrome, Firefox, Iron, Canary, Opera, Netscape Navigator, Safari... something else?
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Jun 1 2015, 21:45
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nec1986
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QUOTE(teenyman45 @ Jun 1 2015, 22:26)  What is the present preferred browser for playing hentaiverse on? Chrome, Firefox, Iron, Canary, Opera, Netscape Navigator, Safari... something else?
Im using IE11. Its faster than any other for me, but its a bit hard to set hover/spellspam.
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