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post May 30 2015, 18:58
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Possibly a stupid question, but which one of these are better and warrant significant investment? The Exquisite has the best possible proc chance and much higher damage, but the Magnificent actually surpasses it with the added Wind strike. However, I have a feeling that if I soulfused both, the Exquisite would end up matching or beating the Magnificent even with Wind Strike.

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It's a tricky comparison, since clearly I have put a few upgrades into the Exquisite already.

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post May 30 2015, 19:03
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I'm sorry if this is a stupid question but can someone tell me how I should distribute my attribute points? I came back after a while and noticed it all got reset and forgot how I should set them.
Again, sorry for the stupid question, but I haven't touched the game in a few years.

Edit: forgot to mention, I'm using dual wielding with light armor.

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post May 30 2015, 19:18
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QUOTE(Scootaloot @ May 31 2015, 00:58) *

Possibly a stupid question, but which one of these are better and warrant significant investment? The Exquisite has the best possible proc chance and much higher damage, but the Magnificent actually surpasses it with the added Wind strike. However, I have a feeling that if I soulfused both, the Exquisite would end up matching or beating the Magnificent even with Wind Strike.

[attachembed=64799]

It's a tricky comparison, since clearly I have put a few upgrades into the Exquisite already.


both of them do NOT warrant any significant investment. wait for a better one to drop or appear in the WTS.

2H style isn't the recommendation style right now so their prices shouldn't be too high (compared to rapier that is).
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post May 30 2015, 19:25
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QUOTE(The Magi @ May 30 2015, 18:22) *

I have not really been playing since the new patch but i got this equip from RE:

Legendary Shocking Shortsword of Slaughter

Was wondering if I should soulbound it or are Rapiers still the best (so i should wait till i got a good rapier...)?

rapiers atm. but next patch should change mitigations - at least they say - so maybe rapiers won't be on the top anymore. maybe...
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post May 30 2015, 20:32
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QUOTE(otame-chan @ May 31 2015, 00:03) *

I'm sorry if this is a stupid question but can someone tell me how I should distribute my attribute points? I came back after a while and noticed it all got reset and forgot how I should set them.
Again, sorry for the stupid question, but I haven't touched the game in a few years.

Edit: forgot to mention, I'm using dual wielding with light armor.


distribute it like before is fine, it reseted only because the exp table for lvling up and increasing stats are changed.
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post May 30 2015, 20:57
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weapon damage L-0.3

looks like the weapon damage bonus for slaughter suffix got a huge nerf, while the weapon damage for non-slaughter suffix got a boost.

slaughter suffix is no longer as attractive as it used to be.

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post May 30 2015, 22:04
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QUOTE(Stulpen @ May 29 2015, 23:09) *

Well, maybe it is the time to realize that it would be a good idea to play something that is more known for its survivability, hoard soul fragments for later on, and change back to mage, after you reach a level high enough to get even leveled equipment and also soulfuse some of them. At least that would make more sense than whine about how weak you are, how fast you die and how fast you outclass your own not soulfuse eqipment.


Ok, I'm not rich enough for full 1h set, but will just go with Fair quality or less bazaar cr*p I have for now and change my style until mages improve somehow.
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post May 31 2015, 02:47
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both of them do NOT warrant any significant investment. wait for a better one to drop or appear in the WTS.

2H style isn't the recommendation style right now so their prices shouldn't be too high (compared to rapier that is).


I know that neither of the weapons are that good. Neither is ethereral or has PAB. I was wondering which was better because for the time being, I don't see myself getting a 3 PAB Legendary Ethereal any time soon, as the prices in the shop are a little bit outside my range. I can get 10-20K a day max on HV, from running a few Arenas. Can't spend more than a few hours or so grinding through, even on the weekends. And the money I save is going towards training, so I can increase my earning potential and eventually sell gear myself.

Also, I am training up 1H while using 2H for any long grinding. I have a lot more prof. on 2H+Light than 1H+Heavy. If my block was a little better, I'd probably switch over to 1H for main grinding. And luckily I am nearing rank 250, giving me access to the +block ability.
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post May 31 2015, 04:20
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QUOTE(Scootaloot @ May 31 2015, 02:47) *

I know that neither of the weapons are that good. Neither is ethereral or has PAB. I was wondering which was better because for the time being, I don't see myself getting a 3 PAB Legendary Ethereal any time soon, as the prices in the shop are a little bit outside my range. I can get 10-20K a day max on HV, from running a few Arenas. Can't spend more than a few hours or so grinding through, even on the weekends. And the money I save is going towards training, so I can increase my earning potential and eventually sell gear myself.

Also, I am training up 1H while using 2H for any long grinding. I have a lot more prof. on 2H+Light than 1H+Heavy. If my block was a little better, I'd probably switch over to 1H for main grinding. And luckily I am nearing rank 250, giving me access to the +block ability.


And you dont need a 3 PA Leg Eth any time soon. But let us be honest, it would be more cost-effective to get at least a Exq 3 PA weapon, some good armor, forge and IW you stuff at least a bit, play on higher difficulty, make more money, and train after you get allready some money.
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post May 31 2015, 05:43
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the "W" hot key is the short cut to open my list of spells to cast but what hot key do i press to select a specific spell from the list. i know "R" is the hot key used to re-cast your last spell but i cant figure out how to use it because i dont know which key is used to select a spell.
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post May 31 2015, 05:44
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Well I just found an Exquisite Ethereal Club with 3 PAB... guess that's a start? I will just start doing Forge/IW on all my gear I guess, thanks.
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post May 31 2015, 06:06
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ May 30 2015, 23:53) *

Do you have prof with it?
Its very-very hard to train. Ive playing very decent time and still its a bit higher than 150. So i use 5phase + imperil. Huge damage, but also 3 and sometimes even 7 moves i spend only for debuffing.


Yes, my elemental proficiency is practically at level cap. With my fire staff and proficiency cap, I have 0.45 prof factor, which should be 15% specific mitigation reduction if I did my sums right. And I play with imperil, so it should be total of 55% specific mitigation reduction. My ghetto fire mage set has just 400 magic score less than my ghetto dark mage set (plus regular staff), yet it subjectively felt much slower. Not sure why.

Maybe it's because I didn't have enough AP to reach 10 targets on the T3 spell?

QUOTE(hentai_fusion @ May 31 2015, 02:57) *

weapon damage L-0.3

looks like the weapon damage bonus for slaughter suffix got a huge nerf, while the weapon damage for non-slaughter suffix got a boost.

slaughter suffix is no longer as attractive as it used to be.


I believe the boss has clarified that slaughter did not specifically get a nerf. Rather, non-slaughter equipment has an adb boost, so the slaughter relative advantage is now lower.
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post May 31 2015, 06:29
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QUOTE(mozilla browser @ May 31 2015, 14:06) *

I believe the boss has clarified that slaughter did not specifically get a nerf. Rather, non-slaughter equipment has an adb boost, so the slaughter relative advantage is now lower.


Not according to the trend...
QUOTE(arialinnoc @ May 31 2015, 02:30) *

Peerless Shocking Club of Slaughter

64.65WD < old wiki 67.59 (L 64.97)

QUOTE(StonyCat @ May 31 2015, 07:01) *

Old Peerless Arctic Club of Slaughter for reference.

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Edit: Looks like Rapier/Club has the same problem as Estoc/Mace.

Old Peerless Arctic Rapier of Slaughter: WD 50.48

85% = 42.908

New Legendary Shocking Rapier of Slaughter: WD 42.63
New Legendary Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter: WD 42.28
Ugh.


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post May 31 2015, 06:38
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QUOTE(Scootaloot @ May 31 2015, 05:44) *

Well I just found an Exquisite Ethereal Club with 3 PAB... guess that's a start? I will just start doing Forge/IW on all my gear I guess, thanks.


I would prefer any elemtal rapier, but yes, thats a start. Also i suggest IW your weapon first, the additional elemtal strike at level 10 will really increase the damage you can do.
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post May 31 2015, 07:23
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Does anyone actually use spark of life? Does it save mana in the long term or something?
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Does anyone actually use spark of life? Does it save mana in the long term or something?


SoL and save mana? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) SoL save your live, if you are a mage, or maybe use light armor. But how should it save mana? And yes there are some that use SoL, in my eyes its useless for me, so i never used it even once.
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post May 31 2015, 07:38
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If you don't use cure and let spark trigger instead.
I've never used it since it got changed many ages ago, but I still see posts about it.
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post May 31 2015, 08:20
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If you don't use cure and let spark trigger instead.
I've never used it since it got changed many ages ago, but I still see posts about it.


The idea is uing Full-Cure right after Spark, since a Full-Cure at less than 10% HP is more economic than casting 3 cure, both mana and turn-wise. You also gain 2 turns of defence buff, but that's only a minor addition.
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QUOTE(helno @ May 31 2015, 12:29) *

Not according to the trend...


Ok, then I misunderstood it. Or maybe it should have been

(READ ME: SLAUGHTER GEAR IS NOTW WEAKER THAN BEFORE, NON-SLAUGHTER SUFFIXES ARE STRONGER.)

QUOTE(Tenboro @ May 31 2015, 19:22) *

Nothing wrong with the new Slaughter prefix, but some of the one-handers did fall slightly short of the intended max base values for whatever reason. They should now be corrected.


I guess it's fixed now?!?

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post May 31 2015, 10:42
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QUOTE(otame-chan @ May 30 2015, 19:03) *

I'm sorry if this is a stupid question but can someone tell me how I should distribute my attribute points? I came back after a while and noticed it all got reset and forgot how I should set them.
Again, sorry for the stupid question, but I haven't touched the game in a few years.

Edit: forgot to mention, I'm using dual wielding with light armor.



There are 2 considerations. First, benefits as in http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Character_Stats#Primary_Attributes, second, max spirit. Because even useless stats give you more spirit, equal distribution is attractive. You want to give more weight to stats that give you more, but put some points even to others, for sake of staying power.
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