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post May 28 2015, 11:54
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QUOTE(karyl123 @ May 28 2015, 02:48) *

expert, question.

lv 10 equipment will have void stike and elemental strike, let say, fire

is elemental proficiency affect this elemental strike ?

non-ethereal = hollowforged (piercing to void + void strike)

any proficiency doesn't affect elemental strike. Neither edb, don't forge it.
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post May 28 2015, 11:56
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QUOTE(Dead-ed @ May 28 2015, 16:54) *

non-ethereal = hollowforged (piercing to void + void strike)

any proficiency doesn't affect elemental strike. Neither edb, don't forge it.


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post May 28 2015, 11:56
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QUOTE(karyl123 @ May 28 2015, 09:48) *

expert, question.

lv 10 equipment will have void stike and elemental strike, let say, fire

is elemental proficiency affect this elemental strike ?
The only factor that proficiency affects that might possibly have something to do with the extra physical strike is the specific mitigation reduction that results from having prof over your level, but even if that is a factor (which it might not be), it doesn't matter because you're not going to have any elemental or divine/forbidden proficiency gear as melee, so prof will not be over your level.

Unless you have a proficiency perk, but the effect would be extremely minimal.

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post May 28 2015, 12:19
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ May 28 2015, 05:59) *

afaik, at a certain point jacob (fakku's admin) was a bit hungry for money, so he bought rights for many publications, leaving the scene without many supplies. or something similar (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

QUOTE(okayno @ May 28 2015, 06:27) *

For a long time e-hentai and sadpanda operated in a legal gray area as far as japanese copyrights were concerned. Read: The US doesn't respect japanese copyrights at all. But then fakku bought up the distribution rights to a large number of artists. Which meant suddenly a large number of japanese copyrights became enforceable. So in about a week about a third of the content on e-hentai and sadpanda vanished. Now any time any work by artist that fakku owns the rights to pops up on e-hentai or panda, its taken down posthaste.

Since a large number of artists who are objectively the best working were included in these FUN TIMES, e-hentai and panda are kinda sorta left with the dregs, depending on your taste.
And just to keep this related, on a scale of 1 to 10, how stupid am I for going dw/arcanist and prioritizing attack speed?

QUOTE(holy_demon @ May 28 2015, 08:15) *

Wanimagazine sold its international english license to Fakku, then demanded EH to add all wanimag products to our Do-Not-Post blacklist. Since Wani is a big hentai publisher, many scan and translation were to be deleted. At the beginning only EH was affected, but later on Wani attacked the dark site. Some people suspected that fakku tipped off wani about its existence.


Interesting.... used to like Fakku and use it all the time loooooong time ago. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post May 28 2015, 12:26
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btw, isnt e hentai server in europe ?

I test from multiple pingtest, e-hentai located in netherland....

so is netherland respect the US copyright ?
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post May 28 2015, 12:55
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ May 28 2015, 17:23) *

Why fire? Maybe wind can be better. 2 of most tanky monsters has low wind resistance.


Because I happened to win two surtr pieces in the lottery and I'd already started to IW them. They're not great, but it saves 2M or 1/2 month to soul bind them.

Besides, surtr pieces are generally slightly cheaper, and this poor player was down to 3476 credits just a couple of days ago.

The Freyr shoes just dropped yesterday, so I'm wondering whether to sell it. Seems rather difficult to build a set around it.

QUOTE(karyl123 @ May 28 2015, 18:26) *

btw, isnt e hentai server in europe ?

I test from multiple pingtest, e-hentai located in netherland....

so is netherland respect the US copyright ?


Perhaps tenboro is within reach of US law?

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post May 28 2015, 13:01
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QUOTE(mozilla browser @ May 28 2015, 03:55) *

(where have we heard that)

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post May 28 2015, 13:39
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QUOTE(mozilla browser @ May 28 2015, 17:55) *

Because I happened to win two surtr pieces in the lottery and I'd already started to IW them. They're not great, but it saves 2M or 1/2 month to soul bind them.

Besides, surtr pieces are generally slightly cheaper, and this poor player was down to 3476 credits just a couple of days ago.

The Freyr shoes just dropped yesterday, so I'm wondering whether to sell it. Seems rather difficult to build a set around it.
Perhaps tenboro is within reach of US law?

hey , that my word , buddy (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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it just my 10 days bad luck or players with low LoTD tend to get good leg in this patch (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

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post May 28 2015, 13:42
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QUOTE(TygerTyger @ May 28 2015, 12:19) *

Interesting.... used to like Fakku and use it all the time loooooong time ago. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

you too?

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- snip -

you know there are a couple whole US intelligence services which work on foreign countries, right? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post May 28 2015, 14:05
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QUOTE(mozilla browser @ May 28 2015, 13:55) *

Because I happened to win two surtr pieces in the lottery, I've already started to IW them.


Yep, fire is cheaper. I d split all monsters on 3 groups and amount of that higher than 1300pl (probably with some chaos upgrade):

1. Very weak.
Avion ~1%
Daimon ~ 3%
Sprite ~ 2%

Because we almost always get mix of types than chance to get someone more healthy is quite big. In other words we dont rly care about their resistance, because there is someone with higher hp and magical defense, so we d anyway spend more turn. Its also not very popular group. Even tsukiko has defense lower than 1000pl reptilian with only hp upgrade.

2. Average.
Beast ~2%
Celestial ~6%
Elemental ~5%
Humanoid ~ 6%
Mechanoid ~ 9%

Actually this group is still not much tanky (maybe +25%) and we also have chance to get someone from top. But we already can estimate it a bit.

3. Pain.
Arthropod ~ 10%
Dragonkin ~ 13%
Giant ~ 37%
Undead ~ 6%

Even 1 mob from this group d be enough for huge round turns increase. Their hp is high, their defense is good. Id say overall its almost in 2 times better than sprite. 3 of em has 60+ fire mitg and only undead is weak, but thats only 6% of all mobs. We can see huge amount of giants and they weak against elec with wind. Another weak class against elec is mech, but mech has not so good defense and thats only 9% of all mobs also. Second weak class against wind is dragonkin. Its quite popular and tanky.

So its quite hard to say overall difference in damage, because even 0-->15 elemental mitg increase gives near ~8% clear speed and we speak here only about some monsters which spawns not always. But wind is probably the best (very slightly) compare to any other elemental.

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post May 28 2015, 14:40
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I figured I'd bite the bullet and burn up my stamina to try to figure out the exact Grindfest damage scaling equation. Unfortunately I couldn't even really get started due to something odd.

I started Normal Grindfest until I found Kodou Yuki (highest chance of appearing, and lower damage than Tsukiko). It was level 398, so I kept that as reference for the level I should look for in later rounds for most accurate comparison. I figured I'd look at damage lows, highs, and average on Normal round 1, round 100-something, and round 800-900-something and hope to find a best fit equation, and do the same for Hellfest to make sure scaling behaved the same across different difficulties. But then...

27 2 Kodou Yuki hits you for 222 crushing damage. (Non-crit normal attacks do 210-240 damage or so)

796 3 Kodou Yuki uses pstn bakari jya damenanoyo, and crits you for 5130 crushing damage
796 2 Your spirit shield absorbs 3949 points of damage from the attack into 37 points of spirit damage

802 2 Kodou Yuki hits you for 1634 crushing damage. (Non-crit normal attacks do 1450-1700 damage or so)

906 3 Kodou Yuki hits you for 1858 crushing damage. (Non-crit normal attacks do 1700-2000 damage or so)

I even had to cast Spirit Shield because I was having to Cure too often on Normal. Past turn 900 I couldn't even continue without starting to use Mana Potions every time they were off CD. And this was round 1 of Normal Grindfest (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I had to finish.

Damage goes back to normal (200-300 range) when the round finishes.

So, for me to get a low margin of error when recording, it seems I can only really trust the first few turns - and I have to hope that I get a representative sample (lows, highs, average) from those turns - and even then, there's too much fluctuation for a precise measurement before damage ramp-up from battle action time. Oh well. I can enter, record, and flee the first round of GF easily, but not on later rounds.

Well, hopefully the damage ramp-up due to round is linear, else data fuzziness may make determining the equation too difficult.

Arena and Item World do not have this damage ramp-up due to battle action time.
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post May 28 2015, 14:56
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ May 28 2015, 19:40) *

-snip-


wait wait. more battle turn, monster become stronger ?
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post May 28 2015, 14:58
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QUOTE(karyl123 @ May 28 2015, 12:56) *
wait wait. more battle turn, monster become stronger ?
Apparently so, but only on GF. (and unless you Focus for 100+ turns without attacking or advancing you probably wouldn't notice)

Very strange.
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post May 28 2015, 15:02
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Lol, thats funny. Actually idea is good. Damage should be more or less ok even with low amount of samples, because dispersion isnt very high. But with new pot system almost any 1h can clear full fest.
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post May 28 2015, 15:21
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you too?


First site till I moved to this better one. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post May 28 2015, 15:39
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my first legendary, i got it from PF RE
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=618ab6a5f2
is it any good?
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post May 28 2015, 16:07
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QUOTE(billyismad @ May 28 2015, 20:39) *

my first legendary, i got it from PF RE
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=618ab6a5f2
is it any good?


parry and WD over old legendary.
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post May 28 2015, 16:37
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ May 28 2015, 13:42) *

you know there are a couple whole US intelligence services which work on foreign countries, right? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


As if any intelligence really would care about copyright. This is what cease-and-desist order lawyers are good for. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Btw, what Elemental Strike should i target with a Ethereal Rapier, i thought about ether Dark or Holy, but i did quite good with my wind rapier, so maybe wind.
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post May 28 2015, 16:43
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Hi there. is this rapier worth to do IW on? (Is that even english?). I was going to hollowforge it but got lazy in the middle.
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post May 28 2015, 16:53
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Nah. It has no elemental strike.
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