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post May 26 2015, 12:03
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QUOTE(CronoBoA @ May 26 2015, 15:26) *

I'm trying to upgrade the Block on my new Shield, and I wish to accurately calculate how much Mid-Grade / High-Grade Wood I need to purchase. Forging 101 didn't mention forging costs and the Wiki only vaguely mentions "the material costs gradually rise". Does the High-Grade Wood cost increase by one every five tiers? Does the Binding cost ever increase?

usually the highest mats need to forging 1 lvl in leg tier is 6 HG ( forget from what range (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) ) from my exp forging my leg power and kite shield (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
~ I don't have peerless to forge ~ (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)


I just remember catalyst , usually from range 13 than 25 will need higher catalyst item (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post May 26 2015, 12:07
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QUOTE(billyismad @ May 26 2015, 09:58) *
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=beba579082

is this worth keeping for later or is it best to salvage or bazaar it?
Katalox is for holy/dark. Better to use Redwood or at least Willow as cold mage - you'll get a whole lot more EDB.
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post May 26 2015, 12:10
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ May 26 2015, 12:03) *

~ I don't have peerless to forge ~ (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

is this unrequested piece of info your new mantra?

however forging a peerless requires 6MG at the start. and forging lv18 on a leg still requires 'only' 4HG, so i guess the 6HG threshold will be somewhere in the 25~30 range

QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ May 26 2015, 12:03) *

I just remember catalyst , usually from range 13 than 25 will need higher catalyst item (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

yup. peerless and legs require robust from the start, while vibrant catalysts are required somewhere between 8~17 range. can't be more precise with what i own (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

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post May 26 2015, 12:10
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expert, need help.

since I not good with math.

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=6c9d19d452

what base of everything ?

is this ok equipment to bound ?
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post May 26 2015, 12:17
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QUOTE(karyl123 @ May 26 2015, 12:10) *

expert, need help.

since I not good with math.

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=6c9d19d452

what base of everything ?

is this ok equipment to bound ?

base ADB 34.48, considering both forging and IW. ~29.78 otherwise
ACC 21.61 considering forging, 20 otherwise

for all the rest hover the mouse and check by yourself, dividing by 1.08 for lv5 forging. as an offhand weapon it should be ok, i guess. maybe a rapier of balance may be better, but still it's not so bad. no clue on whether it's worth soulforge or not
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post May 26 2015, 12:21
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ May 26 2015, 17:17) *

base ADB 34.48, considering both forging and IW. ~29.78 otherwise
ACC 21.61 considering forging, 20 otherwise

for all the rest hover the mouse and check by yourself, dividing by 1.08 for lv5 forging. as an offhand weapon it should be ok, i guess. maybe a rapier of balance may be better, but still it's not so bad. no clue on whether it's worth soulforge or not


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post May 26 2015, 12:24
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QUOTE(karyl123 @ May 26 2015, 10:10) *
is this ok equipment to bound ?
Given that it's not incredibly difficult to get 50 fragments, and given that it's Legendary with amazing parry and PA, I might soulbind it if I were DW, especially if I were around your level.
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post May 26 2015, 12:26
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Thank you to all who answered my questions!
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post May 26 2015, 12:31
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ May 26 2015, 17:24) *

Given that it's not incredibly difficult to get 50 fragments, and given that it's Legendary with amazing parry and PA, I might soulbind it if I were DW, especially if I were around your level.


I am moving to 1H now :/

because all suggestion saying 1H is better than DW
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post May 26 2015, 12:44
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QUOTE(karyl123 @ May 26 2015, 10:31) *
I am moving to 1H now :/

because all suggestion saying 1H is better than DW
Hmm... L rapier of nimble for 1h... well, if you aren't intending to to sell it for profit, I think it still wouldn't be a bad idea to equip and use it. Defense is still an important priority at your level, and will remain something to consider until level 320ish, so Nimble isn't terrible, even if it isn't Slaughter. Its ADB is quite nice if 29.78 base is correct.

If you're intending to do 1h + Power Slaughter (or + 0.82 Power), you might save your fragments for equipment you'll use longer. (Or you could soulfuse anyway if you play lots of RE and so have shards but don't often grind)
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post May 26 2015, 12:50
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post May 26 2015, 12:57
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Its not big difference in damage. For me thats maybe 300adb compare to slaughter. Maybe 3% difference in time. Its like finish in 2 hours or 2 hours and 4 minutes. But that parry is much-much higher than mine. Its 32,32% for me and i have only 18%. Thats very-very good for defense.
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post May 26 2015, 13:51
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Dang, that's a nice rapier.

Like everyone else, I've got just about enough fragments to soul-bind one item.

I'm wondering if I should bind my dark staff to replace my ghetto dark staff. Thing is, it's ethereal, pre-patch, and dark is kinda out of favour now. Should I save my soul fragments instead?

Or if I should bind one of the armor pieces to substitute into my ghetto mage collection instead?
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post May 26 2015, 13:59
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ May 26 2015, 18:07) *

Katalox is for holy/dark. Better to use Redwood or at least Willow as cold mage - you'll get a whole lot more EDB.

Willow does not have built-in cold EDB. I think you meant to say Oak?

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post May 26 2015, 14:04
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QUOTE(djackallstar @ May 26 2015, 11:59) *
Willow does (not) have built-in cold EDB. I think you meant to say Oak?
Oops, mistype, you're right.
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post May 26 2015, 14:34
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QUOTE(mozilla browser @ May 26 2015, 18:51) *

Dang, that's a nice rapier.

Like everyone else, I've got just about enough fragments to soul-bind one item.

I'm wondering if I should bind my dark staff to replace my ghetto dark staff. Thing is, it's ethereal, pre-patch, and dark is kinda out of favour now. Should I save my soul fragments instead?

Or if I should bind one of the armor pieces to substitute into my ghetto mage collection instead?

just soulbind what sytle you like most (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ May 26 2015, 12:44) *

Hmm... L rapier of nimble for 1h... well, if you aren't intending to to sell it for profit, I think it still wouldn't be a bad idea to equip and use it. Defense is still an important priority at your level, and will remain something to consider until level 320ish, so Nimble isn't terrible, even if it isn't Slaughter. Its ADB is quite nice if 29.78 base is correct.

undoubtly. also, he already unlocked butcher and fatality so it's on the good road for 1H - and butcher 4 means +8% ADB, which should be less or more similar to using 5 bindings of slaughter. if he was doing it for DW, he should've sharded it
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post May 26 2015, 16:02
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Actually, maybe holy isnt very bad. Mana price is weak spot, but we should include few facts:
1. Holy has a bit higher damage. Its increase in gem/pot income.
2. Holy has a bit longer action speed. Its increase in regeneration.
3. Tapping easy overflow even that consumption.

But most important is clear speed. Average holy mitg is near 40 (mostly 10-50 range) and 2.0 prof build easy reduce it to 0 without emperil. But average elemental is 60 and mostly almost all mobs has 60-75 with some rare 25-30. Its huge amount of additional turns (with also lower spell damage). After all pots isnt very expensive. I mean lets say good mage has 150k credits/hour. If he lose even 10% speed than its 15k credits (150 pots or almost 3 each minute).
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post May 26 2015, 16:46
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i created a monster and increase the level pass 25 but how do i put it in battle and how do i prevent it from losing a battle. also how do i get a gift from my monster.
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post May 26 2015, 17:04
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i created a monster and increase the level pass 25 but how do i put it in battle and how do i prevent it from losing a battle. also how do i get a gift from my monster.


give it a name, and it will automatically join battle.

to prevent it losing battle. feed it with chaos upgrade.

but its recomended to upgrade scavenger first.
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