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post May 24 2015, 13:37
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QUOTE(Colman @ May 24 2015, 16:37) *

I have been inactive in the past few days.
Any significant change in HV?

nope , still exq and superior crap (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

like n125 said , if we likely get flagged ( including me ) than we maybe never find anything good now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)


QUOTE(xmagus @ May 24 2015, 18:23) *

Anyone actually try getting Dovahkiin at Nintendo difficulty? I just did, and nope, it looks like you will need to clear it at IWBTH this time round. It took me over 4 hours (1H playstyle), so IWBTH is gonna be a real timesink. Wiki might have to be edited.


4 Hours in nintendo (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

I just need around 1 hour to clearing PFU DwD with my 1H set (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


QUOTE(tetron @ May 24 2015, 18:34) *

Oops. I had forgotten that you are "poor". (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
Yes. 4PAB is back for Leather/Shade. And Mag grade gears are now dorpping with 3PAB more often. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
LMAO. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
Saving for 100 and saving for 2000 are two different story.


I'm more poor now due to curse by snowflake ~ my equipment drop now really make me extremely lazy to play HV (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

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post May 24 2015, 13:49
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ May 24 2015, 21:37) *

4 Hours in nintendo (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

Yes. I have a shitty set. No mags or legs power armour; only my rapier is a mag slaughter, and not at the high end of it either. No forging on any of my armour pieces. Plus my latency is something otherworldly. So, yeah, 4 hours.
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post May 24 2015, 13:52
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My first DwD was PF at 305ish with bazaar level 1h/Power Slaughter. Took 5 hours. It wasn't worth it.
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post May 24 2015, 14:20
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QUOTE(xmagus @ May 24 2015, 18:49) *

Yes. I have a shitty set. No mags or legs power armour; only my rapier is a mag slaughter, and not at the high end of it either. No forging on any of my armour pieces. Plus my latency is something otherworldly. So, yeah, 4 hours.

I'm using mag rapier too in my poor set (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

dohvakiin title is not that great unless you need FRD in GF (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)



QUOTE(Superlatanium @ May 24 2015, 18:52) *

My first DwD was PF at 305ish with bazaar level 1h/Power Slaughter. Took 5 hours. It wasn't worth it.


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you must be cast focus alot at that time , super (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post May 24 2015, 16:29
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QUOTE(mozilla browser @ May 24 2015, 14:29) *

Thanks for sharing these details. I think the T2-T1 calculation has an error. Shoudl be 30+13+13 / 3 = 19 MP/turn.


Sure. We also should include some chance for coalesced mana, because its 50% reduction to mana price. And thats quite common. But mostly if we wanna compare income-outcome.
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post May 24 2015, 16:31
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Sure. We also should include some chance for coalesced mana, because its 50% reduction to mana price. And thats quite common. But mostly if we wanna compare income-outcome.

how much crystal do you get from 1 hellfest run now , nec ?

I'm forget about this since it's been more than 1 year since my last hellfest clear (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post May 24 2015, 16:37
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It was near 24k as i remember, but now hell is x7, so its a bit higher. More like 27-28k probably.
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post May 24 2015, 16:40
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post May 24 2015, 18:10
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ May 24 2015, 22:20) *

I'm using mag rapier too in my poor set (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

dohvakiin title is not that great unless you need FRD in GF (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Well, no, but I have hundreds of retired HP/MP/SP pots that are going to be burnt in about 15 days or so, so I figured now would be a good time to use them up. And actually, the amount you get from doing DwD is a helluva lot more than you would get from simply selling the pots to the Bazaar. Granted, the time waste is immense, but from a pure game perspective...
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post May 24 2015, 18:23
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With the introduction of the recent patch, is there a way to see what stats a lower level weapon would have if I were to soulbind it, so I can decide if (and when) I should do so?
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post May 24 2015, 18:24
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since enchanting with infusions is time based is it worth using if you have bad ping, what other factors should i consider?
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post May 24 2015, 19:32
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Not sure if I should salvage these two much older pieces of equipment I've had collecting dust or if the saleable value would outweigh the material return.

LV 10 Exquisite Fiery Rapier of Slaughter

4 PAB EID 12.2M Exuisite Phase Robe of Heimdall Those five phazons were spent back when each forging still required it's own binding, after coming back from one of several hiatuses in the early days of monster ranching.
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post May 24 2015, 19:35
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ May 24 2015, 07:37) *

nope , still exq and superior crap (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

like n125 said , if we likely get flagged ( including me ) than we maybe never find anything good now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
4 Hours in nintendo (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

I just need around 1 hour to clearing PFU DwD with my 1H set (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
I'm more poor now due to curse by snowflake ~ my equipment drop now really make me extremely lazy to play HV (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)


You must have a much better gear set and/or hath perks than mine. The three times I've done PFUDOR DwD it's taken about two hours each time. I get about 2-3 attacks per second, but was finding it takes the same amount of time to clear a round using the t1 and t2 abilities (and recharge the overchannel bar) as it does to just stay in spirit stance and keep the number key depressed.

QUOTE(CapableScoutMan @ May 24 2015, 12:23) *

With the introduction of the recent patch, is there a way to see what stats a lower level weapon would have if I were to soulbind it, so I can decide if (and when) I should do so?


Somebody will probably release an automated script for it soon, but for now you can mouseover to see the the individual base stats of level assigned gear and then compare it to the mouseover stats of your current gear. Multiplication is tedious.

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post May 24 2015, 19:38
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QUOTE(teenyman45 @ May 24 2015, 20:35) *

Somebody will probably release an automated script for it soon, but for now you can mouseover to see the the individual base stats of level assigned gear and then compare it to the mouseover stats of your current gear. Multiplication is tedious.

Thanks, I guess I'll wait for that. I still haven't gotten any post-patch gear that's better than what I have, anyway.
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post May 24 2015, 19:48
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QUOTE(billyismad @ May 24 2015, 19:24) *

since enchanting with infusions is time based is it worth using if you have bad ping, what other factors should i consider?


Its quite popular drop, so you can easy use it constant even with bad ping/low turns/sec. Also you can use mage style in future, because mage is much more powerful in damage/turns. Its quite weak style and very exacting, but its also very fast if environment easy enough (for example arena on hell difficulty).
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post May 24 2015, 19:50
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Some exp table for new levels? I had 44 billions for 360lvl.
Wanna know how much i need for 400, 450 and 500.

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post May 24 2015, 20:08
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ May 23 2015, 13:11) *

Since quality is now a variable in there somewhere, I wouldn't expect the formula from 0.81 to produce anything reliably meaningful now. It is said that Quality ~= (PXP - 100) / 250 - though while this was (probably) true for 0.81 and before, who knows if the new equipment generation has changed it. Not even that, given that using that formula, 350 PXP -> 1.0 quality (highest), but that was just barely Legendary in 0.81.

Someone intelligent with scripts (extract repair cost, equipment condition, and PXP), regression statistics (come up with best-fit equation, possibly piecewise given 10b's statements), and a lot of gear in inventory headed for bazaar could probably figure it out quickly. Even that might not be required if the equation isn't too complicated... hmm... if only we knew how to calculate Quality exactly.

Edit: If the quality formula estimate is accurate, then the formula to calculate scrap needed does not have a direct relationship with (quality * condition%_to_go). There is too much discrepancy. But my guess is the quality formula is pretty wrong.

I'm not sure, but it seems that PXP(0) ranges of equipments have been changed in this patch, right?

If so, does that mean quality ranges have also been changed for different tiers?

In previous patches, the question "what is the best condition to repair an equipment" has a simple answer: 76 ~ 80, 51 ~ 60, or 53 if you consider the prices of both scraps and catalysts.

In this patch, the same question has no simple answer, and being able to calculate the quality of an equipment is now necessary to answer the question.

In the old patch:
- Magnificent AAA of aaa, at 54% condition => needs 12 scraps
- Magnificent BBB of bbb, at 54% condition => needs 12 scraps
- Magnificent CCC of ccc, at 54% condition => needs 12 scraps
(always 12 when at 54% YAY)

In this patch:
- Magnificent AAA of aaa, at 54% condition => needs 24 scraps
- Magnificent BBB of bbb, at 54% condition => needs 29 scraps
- Magnificent CCC of ccc, at 54% condition => needs 37 scraps
(not always the same (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif))

"When is the best condition to repair an equipment" is now a question with different answers to different equipments.

Like you said, we really need someone good at math.

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post May 24 2015, 20:52
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QUOTE(djackallstar @ May 24 2015, 15:08) *
Like you said, we really need someone good at math.

Or... just hit the repair button when you feel like it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


(do it when a yellow message appears in left panel is a good time (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif))

Serious that you guys are worrying about around a hundred credits spent after some thousand rounds? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)
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post May 24 2015, 21:00
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New pic of 1h. After 1 hellfest run got ~650 draught/pot/elixir income....and also 31,8k crystals.
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post May 24 2015, 21:19
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Is this worth IWing? I started off using this to run IW on my Exquisite Mace, but then decided it'd be easier to use my Exquisite to IW this. Less damage, but it has 3 PAB and a decent proc which seems rare as hell nowadays.
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