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I had to reset that now I am at tier 2 instead since my level thanks to the new patch isn't enough. Now I have 9 ability points. Thank you.

i don't think so. potions have quite a hgher cooldown if compared to theft processes. unless you equip both greater/heroic or whatever it is, theft procs are still useful. less than before, but still...

No, he's right. I'm not sure about Ether Theft, but Spirit Theft is definitely obsolete. Its sole purpose before was to supplement spirit potions because we didn't carry many of those relative to other types. Now you have three types of spirit restoratives on individual timers, that last as long as you have stock. Spirit also doesn't deplete very quickly until you get to very high Grindfest rounds, so you're very likely to find more spirit restoratives than you use. Just keep your SP topped off with draughts; if you slack off, use a potion; if you fuck up, use an elixir and eat the cost.

Ether Theft, I'm not sure about. Even as an elemental mage, I used significantly more Mana Draughts and Potions than I found while doing PFUDOR DwD. I'm not sure that the solution is to buff Ether Theft (which is shitty for anyone who isn't a holy mage) or Ether Tap, because they're slow and cumbersome; nobody wants to do that shit. Mana restoratives need to drop more frequently, or they need to be made stronger.

This post has been edited by n125: May 18 2015, 01:47

So, after testing stuff out, the new potions are pretty weak, aren't they? I had to use too many of them when it really shouldn't have been so difficult.

Yes they are.

Its exciting to see my proficiencies climbing so quickly. If I didn't have a lot of homework to do, I'd grind my way to 100 today. Maybe during the week.




Edit: Strange, my forum profile still says I'm level 92, but as the screencap shows, I've reached level 94 already.

This post has been edited by Alexeon: May 18 2015, 01:50

Mana restoratives need to drop more frequently, or they need to be made stronger.

As with all updates, we are doing the beta-testing ourselves. If enough people complain, Tenboro might adjust regen or drop rate (hopefully higher.) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Ether Theft, I'm not sure about. Even as an elemental mage, I used significantly more Mana Draughts and Potions than I found while doing PFUDOR DwD. I'm not sure that the solution is to buff Ether Theft (which is shitty for anyone who isn't a holy mage) or Ether Tap, because they're slow and cumbersome; nobody wants to do that shit. Mana restoratives need to drop more frequently, or they need to be made stronger.

I'm not sure that DwD is the best ideal for comparison, since you have to cast quite a whole lot more spells per monster killed than in non-SG battles. Maybe try GF or something and see if you still have a net loss...

Though if you're like nobody and mostly do DwD (and mage) it would definitely be a problem...

Ok, so I'm a big fan of spamming Drain, then some AoE magic (plus the occasional healing spell) to farm my proficiency for my glass cannon of a mage in the Arena. And I was wondering if there's any other spells that'll make the grind easier.

Ok, so I'm a big fan of spamming Drain, then some AoE magic (plus the occasional healing spell) to farm my proficiency for my glass cannon of a mage in the Arena. And I was wondering if there's any other spells that'll make the grind easier.

I think mage will be very very tough now before high level due to mana consumption. Do you regenerate enough to keep casting offensive spells for a while? Your aim should probably be to be able to do the 50-round arena on Hell. Does that sound possible given your mana consumption and regen?

Drain isn't a great idea. The way mage works best is to kill monsters quickly (on whichever difficulty you can kill at a reasonably fast rate), before their MP/SP bars get high (you'll start seeing SP bars soon) - otherwise they'll use their more powerful skills and you'll take too much damage. Drain restores only a tiny bit of HP, and goes away if the monster dies (which it should relatively quickly). You'd be better off relying on Cure, Regen, and Draughts.

Also, your proficiency should be rising very very quickly now. There shouldn't be any need for special grinding for it, since it should catch up to your level fast with just standard play.

maybe I will wait till tenb tweak soulfragment drop rate before begin to grinding again (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


only this thing that bothering me so much in this new patch (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

Chalk me up for increased HP/mana pot efficacy. A (soon-to-be-retired) Heroic HP pot only recovers 150 HP at my level, which is pitiful. The Heroic MP pot recovers SEVEN MP. SEVEN! It's nonsensical. For a melee, it is not so bad, but for mages, I believe it suxxor balls.

if i were you, i'd try with nintendo. maybe you are lucky (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Unless there is something else I need to do, I just proved you do not get Dovahkiin for beating A Dance With Dragons at Nintendo difficulty. I will be trying again on IWBTH tomorrow. On the plus side, it was trivially difficult with the effectively infinite supply of potions. Better use them while I can.

maybe I will wait till tenb tweak soulfragment drop rate before begin to grinding again (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
only this thing that bothering me so much in this new patch (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

With the current drop rate and effective of the mp potions, my income is in red.
Much faster level make me do not want to play as the gears cannot keep up.
Most drop are average. Rarely see exq drop. Cannot see the hope of getting upgrade, even for the backup set. I am very sure I am not able to find a single upgrade in the next 20 level.

With infinite pots, Spirit and Mana Theft are obsolete.

For some reason, Spirit Draught/Potions drop rate is higher than Mana Draught/Potions. Well, for me at least.

Also in theory mage has endless spam if its regen higher than mana price.

Which is not the reality. Even Elemental mages have much higher Spell Costs than the regeneration rate of Draughts.

No, he's right. I'm not sure about Ether Theft, but Spirit Theft is definitely obsolete. Its sole purpose before was to supplement spirit potions because we didn't carry many of those relative to other types. Now you have three types of spirit restoratives on individual timers, that last as long as you have stock. Spirit also doesn't deplete very quickly until you get to very high Grindfest rounds, so you're very likely to find more spirit restoratives than you use. Just keep your SP topped off with draughts; if you slack off, use a potion; if you fuck up, use an elixir and eat the cost.

Ether Theft, I'm not sure about. Even as an elemental mage, I used significantly more Mana Draughts and Potions than I found while doing PFUDOR DwD. I'm not sure that the solution is to buff Ether Theft (which is shitty for anyone who isn't a holy mage) or Ether Tap, because they're slow and cumbersome; nobody wants to do that shit. Mana restoratives need to drop more frequently, or they need to be made stronger.

+1
Mana Draught/Potion Drops are not yet enough for self-sufficiency. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

maybe I will wait till tenb tweak soulfragment drop rate before begin to grinding again (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
only this thing that bothering me so much in this new patch (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

How many Soul Fragment did you get yesterday? I played 10 RE and got nothing! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Much faster level make me do not want to play as the gears cannot keep up.

The Leveling is now horrifyingly fast! Around 6x times faster than before! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif)

This post has been edited by tetron: May 18 2015, 05:44

The Leveling is now horrifyingly fast! Around 6x times faster than before! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif)

The leveling speed at my level is at least 2 orders (10 base) higher than 0.81.
I will gain level daily if I am fully active.

gc already gain a level. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
481>482

This post has been edited by Colman: May 18 2015, 06:18

i think the worst part of this update is leveling up becomes a punishment. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

I think this is the first time I played a game where I dread leveling up. Also the fun of having to buy stuff from the market with the moolah you have earned, is almost non-existent now because: -

1. You earn less thanks to suckier EQ drops (contrary to what the patch note says I haven't really found anything half decent thus far and those #@%$^%# leathers/plate drops!) and the inability to sell to other players.
2. Rising potion costs from it being dropping so uncommonly that you actually have to spend more money to buy it.
3. Materials/Scrolls/Draughts/Potions/Elixirs are the only few things we can sell now. With the current EQ system being this shitty I wouldn't even bother with forging at the moment.

So what else do we have to look forward to experts?

The leveling speed at my level is at least 2 orders (10 base) higher than 0.81.
I will gain level daily if I am fully active.

gc already gain a level. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
481>482

I did 1 IWBTHfest and 2halfPFUfests and I leveled up from 23 billion exp left. It's very quick indeed.

The leveling speed at my level is at least 2 orders (10 base) higher than 0.81.

Wait a minute! So now, the more you level up, the easier it becomes to level up further???? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

i think the worst part of this update is leveling up becomes a punishment. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

Before Patch 0.82: How can I level up faster?
After Patch 0.82: How can I NOT level up faster? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

So what else do we have to look forward to experts?

Only thing I surmised is that, to play as a mage, we need to Forge WIS, since WIS seems to affect the MP regeneration amount of Draught. And mages may be need to shift to Focus Staff.

This post has been edited by tetron: May 18 2015, 07:42

So what else do we have to look forward to experts?

...Look forward to the next patch? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) Tenboro wrote that this is only the first pass of changes, so we'll just have to tough it out until then.

Before Patch 0.82: How can I level up faster?
After Patch 0.82: How can I NOT level up faster? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

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