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post May 17 2015, 04:47
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QUOTE(saltwatermelon @ May 17 2015, 02:41) *

Does someone know or at least have an estimation on how many HG Metals needed to upgrade from level 20-27?
Highly depends on equipment quality.

Crude? Maybe none.

Legendary? Maybe 4 to 5 for each level. Base PXP probably matters as well as base prefix.
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post May 17 2015, 08:26
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I think it should be more like stat adjustment. But thats only assumption. Wanna know that too, but a bit hard to test.
Btw, which monsters has max chaos upgrade?

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post May 17 2015, 09:16
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So... I spent my precious 300k credit to get the first IA perk. I can now beat nintendo random encounters quite consistently. But I'm still having a lot of trouble on anything higher. Do I need to spend another 600k of my precious 600k credit to get a second IA?

And it looks like I need another 1.8 million credit to get enough hath for Resplendent Regeneration. Omg...


I first started HV to have a fast way to earn credits. The game itself became fun, and I ground out level 200 in two weeks.

I spent the 300k credit because I was hoping that it would have a greater return on investment.

I'm really hoping that getting both IAs will let me farm a million credit per week. That's my target.

A million a week.

Can I start farming a million credit a week when I reach level 225 or level 250 with both IA's?
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post May 17 2015, 09:23
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QUOTE(orgolove @ May 17 2015, 14:16) *

So... I spent my precious 300k credit to get the first IA perk. I can now beat nintendo random encounters quite consistently. But I'm still having a lot of trouble on anything higher. Do I need to spend another 600k of my precious 600k credit to get a second IA?

And it looks like I need another 1.8 million credit to get enough hath for Resplendent Regeneration. Omg...
I first started HV to have a fast way to earn credits. The game itself became fun, and I ground out level 200 in two weeks.

I spent the 300k credit because I was hoping that it would have a greater return on investment.

I'm really hoping that getting both IAs will let me farm a million credit per week. That's my target.

A million a week.

Can I start farming a million credit a week when I reach level 225 or level 250 with both IA's?


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post May 17 2015, 09:25
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You could do it even without ia. All arenas without last 3 on pf gives more than 200k. Its 1.5m a week. But ia is quite helpful, because u got 2 things:

1. Supportive prof increase much faster and it means longer duration of buffs for lower price. Very helpful.
2. A bit lower mana consumption, a bit less turns for buffs.

So you can see its not so bad and allows you to play higher difficulties. Should you spend more for perks? I think its better to change gear. It d give a bit better result.
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post May 17 2015, 09:50
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Thank you. Unfortunately, with my current setup, I can only beat Nintendo difficulty on the higher (level 100+) arenas. Even the latter half of <100 level arenas give me a lot of difficulty at PFUDOR. Not to mention that it takes so much more time - I calculated the credit earned per minute, and it was actually less than what I would earn just on nightmare.

Should I do level 1-2 item world on on my equips? Will that help? What would be my next step, other than slowly grinding to 300?
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post May 17 2015, 09:56
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QUOTE(orgolove @ May 17 2015, 07:16) *
So... I spent my precious 300k credit to get the first IA perk. I can now beat nintendo random encounters quite consistently. But I'm still having a lot of trouble on anything higher. Do I need to spend another 600k of my precious 600k credit to get a second IA?
You are mage, right? Random encounters are pretty difficulty for them... even I still sometimes die on them when a lot of monsters are spawned. It takes some turns to get buffs up, but during those turns, monster MP bars fill, and once they can start using MP attacks it really hurts.

To figure out more meaningful comparative performance, it's probably better to look at the highest difficulty you can do on each arena.

The first IA is relatively cheap and a good decision - the first two will significantly cut down on the frequency of wasted turns due to re-casting buffs.

I don't think RR is something to aim for at your level. For one, it costs quite a lot, and for another, it's not very useful; better to settle for however far you can get just with potions. Even at my level I don't have it, even though I'm making a few million a week. It would be useful for grindfest, after you have a good set of equipment and have crystal perks, but pretty useless otherwise.
QUOTE(orgolove @ May 17 2015, 07:16) *
I'm really hoping that getting both IAs will let me farm a million credit per week. That's my target.

A million a week.

Can I start farming a million credit a week when I reach level 225 or level 250 with both IA's?
To accomplish that, you'll have to do most arenas most days at IWBTH+, or every day at Nintendo+. For that, gear and level is more of a determining factor than IA - IA just makes things a bit more convenient. 1h is a lot easier to get started with than mage; you can't forge mage gear (yet), not even to 5, and you don't have access to the nearly-essential Imperil ability you get at 310. Higher than Battletoads will be difficult to impossible before having level 310 (Imperil and other abilities), Mmax EDB Phase (50k-350k each), and probably the HP perk (+25% hp tank, 250 hath).

Playing 1h will be a lot more viable until you have the gear, the level, and the perk for mage. As 1h, you'll be able to sleepwalk through BT and IWBTH arenas, and probably PF arenas as well, once you get to 300. It's a whole lot safer than mage, and can handle higher difficulties much earlier, so it has significantly greater income potential, at least until level 310.

Can you post your gear?
QUOTE(nec1986 @ May 17 2015, 07:25) *
You could do it even without ia. All arenas without last 3 on pf gives more than 200k.
He's low level, and he's mage. PF is a loooong way away.
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Should I do level 1-2 item world on on my equips? Will that help? What would be my next step, other than slowly grinding to 300?
You don't have the income necessary for the 80k in shards to get Juggernaut, nor do you have the clearing power in item world for it to be a remotely efficient use of time yet, unfortunately.
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post May 17 2015, 10:33
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He got 200lvl in 2 weeks, so i dont see big problem to get 300 soon. Thats mostly why i said he could do it later. But with mage can be a bit tough. Actually tetron advised elemental mage. I checked a bit yest with only 50 prof and that wasnt very bad. Maybe its stronger.
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post May 17 2015, 11:04
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update?
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post May 17 2015, 11:06
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Yeah. ETA is about an hour, according to Twitter.

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post May 17 2015, 11:21
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post May 17 2015, 11:27
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Time to be a bit more patient
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post May 17 2015, 11:48
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It seems holy is nerfed (no more heal bonus) and DW is boosted (80% offhand weapon damage).
All non-slaughter melee weapons have their ADB increased.

Can use unlimited potions in battle, so maging DwD become much faster.
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post May 17 2015, 11:57
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Time to have an heaven-sent suffix piece of equipement on all mages now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

ONLINE ! time to spend every points.

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post May 17 2015, 11:57
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post May 17 2015, 11:57
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Is it normal to be naked without any PA after the update?
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post May 17 2015, 11:58
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Yes. Read the patch notes.
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post May 17 2015, 12:06
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QUOTE(clarkiest @ May 17 2015, 17:57) *

Experts, now you're a noob!
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No worry. I have equipment of every single style. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool2.gif)
I have brought a full set of electric/cold/shade just for the update.

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post May 17 2015, 12:32
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QUOTE(ButterflyOfLight @ May 17 2015, 09:57) *
Time to have an heaven-sent suffix piece of equipement on all mages now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Maybe you mean Earth-walker?

That, at least, is an interesting positive change.
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post May 17 2015, 13:43
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Now that Nintendo and Battletoads difficulties have been merged, how do you get the Dovahkiin title? Would it be Nintendo of IWBTH? I was two rounds away from finishing last night and I doubt I will make it at IWBTH.
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