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post May 15 2015, 08:24
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ May 15 2015, 08:13) *

Do you have 1h set?


or full Mag+ leather protection. you'll pretty much stay at full health for anything BT & under. though, grinding staff prof is painful.
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post May 15 2015, 08:31
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Thank you very much for the information. Will ask more as and when i learn the right questions.
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post May 15 2015, 09:46
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I did staff+heavy for hell sg arenas. Its almost same as 1h. A bit slow at start, because low accuracy and mid damage, but with a bit prof i could hit almost always and prof gives solid amount of adb. So it was quite close to my ordinary playing and after 1 week i already had high prof with staff.
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post May 15 2015, 10:00
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What is the best way to grind Staff Proficiency?

Set to Hell difficulty. Go into T&T (lv 200 arena) with mage set. Put Spirit shield on IA.
At the last round, do not hit the tree. Use melee to hit the dragon, until your mp (for regen) run out. MP will not run out in fact.

I do not have the patient to do so.......My staff prof is ~402/426 right now. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

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post May 15 2015, 10:18
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QUOTE(orgolove @ May 15 2015, 05:20) *
Umm. I always tried to powerlevel as much as possible. As a result, I'm stuck at 100 elemental proficiency, and below 10 deprecating proficiency.

Is it worth it to spend a day or two just to grind deprecating enough until I have enough proficiency to get silence and imperil? Or do you think at my rate I should be able to get imperil without having to "grind" for it specifically...
Imperil doesn't become great until level 310, when you can use it with 0 cooldown on 3 monsters at once. Also, the longer you wait to grind prof, the easier each point of prof will be - so if I were you I'd wait until later.

Silence is nice to have, but not that useful if you're using something other than heavy armor. So if you want to put off getting Silence as well, go ahead.
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post May 15 2015, 10:57
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QUOTE(Colman @ May 15 2015, 18:00) *

Set to Hell difficulty. Go into T&T (lv 200 arena) with mage set. Put Spirit shield on IA.
At the last round, do not hit the tree. Use melee to hit the dragon, until your mp (for regen) run out. MP will not run out in fact.

I do not have the patient to do so.......My staff prof is ~402/426 right now. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)


My prof is always maxed because I tap during grindfest. I just need one ninfest run whenever I level up
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post May 15 2015, 11:06
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2494 2 Arcane Blow hits Kodou Yuki for 1256 crushing damage.
2494 1 You gain 0.01 points of staff proficiency.
2493 4 Regen restores 1270 points of health.

Oh, what we are willing to do for some very slightly higher numbers displayed on screen against imaginary monsters...
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post May 15 2015, 11:16
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I used to dread leveling up because it meant that I had to re-max my Staff proficiency, and that single point would take 3000 fucking turns or thereabouts. I don't bother doing that these days, however; I learned that since it takes me so much experience to level up, my Staff proficiency eventually catches up before then.

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post May 15 2015, 11:39
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Ah nm guys looks like a good game and I managed to answer all my own question. Was being a bit of a noob. Game seems like a bit of fun.

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post May 15 2015, 13:09
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QUOTE(Stulpen @ May 15 2015, 01:46) *

Yeah, i remember HV-Stat. And it was a slow one, but that would be still HV and not SV, or do i miss something?

Oops. Just noticed. Typo. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

QUOTE(nec1986 @ May 15 2015, 02:03) *

And for hellfest as the best credits/time (for most ppl) 50-55% block is ok with solid protection amount.

You sure? High-PL mobs can reduce your effective Block by 20%. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

QUOTE(Scremaz @ May 15 2015, 02:38) *

roger that. well, let's try the balance path then...

*ahem* (You already know what I'm implying to say) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

QUOTE(n125 @ May 15 2015, 04:32) *

25 3 Celestia Lindwurm casts Dragoon Tempest, and hits you for 4512 holy damage
25 2 Your spirit shield absorbs 1005 points of damage from the attack into 14 points of spirit damage.

40 3 Celestia Lindwurm casts God Sacrilege, and hits you for 4512 holy damage
40 2 Your spirit shield absorbs 5261 points of damage from the attack into 72 points of spirit damage.

These aren't critical hits, but they're still scary and needlessly waste SP. If there's a chance that I can avoid hits like these, I'm taking it. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

10 2 Celestia Lindwurm casts God Sacrilege, but is absorbed. You gain 49 Magic Points.
15 2 Celestia Lindwurm casts Dragoon Tempest, but is absorbed. You gain 54 Magic Points.

NICE! Now to think about it, ANY measly increase in defense is good for PFUDOR. I omitted Absorb long ago and totally forgot about it. I'm adding it back to my spell list. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ May 15 2015, 05:55) *

Cannot forged my ADB anymore cause I'm bankrupt now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

So from poor, you're now bankrupt. You have my sympathy...or not. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ May 15 2015, 05:55) *

Mousemelee slowing down my clearing time ~ sometime I still use it for T&T below ~ (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Mousemelee is not good for me in PFU SG arenas (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

You should change to Spellspam. It's much more versatile.

QUOTE(n125 @ May 15 2015, 06:42) *

Get the the final round of Trio and the Tree. Silence everything and use your staff to kill two norns, leaving Yggdrasil and one norn alive. Maintain Silence on the remaining norn, but let it expire on Yggdrasil. Attack the norn with your staff for as long as you like; Yggdrasil will keep it healed indefinitely. Also put a movie on or something.

This reminds me of Cat's staff prof grinding in T&T. Was more than 2 hours! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif)

QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ May 15 2015, 06:53) *

Honestly, I know it's there, but it's never given me any trouble. It has weak physical attack and never gets a chance to use MP/SP.

Haha. For mages that's a different story. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

QUOTE(Colman @ May 15 2015, 07:21) *

You need 10k rounds to collect sufficient amount of shards to IW one gear to have lv 5 of a specific potency. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
Do you think you can have 10k rounds in arena? In addition, arena have fewer monsters per round.

You didn't answer my question. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

QUOTE(Colman @ May 15 2015, 07:21) *

Also because I forgot to bid. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Don't you already have a full Cold set?

QUOTE(n125 @ May 15 2015, 07:28) *

So I'm not the only one this happens to! It's either an MP gem or Riddlemaster though.

Gems are not automatically used when they drop. So it doesn't make any sense that you'd manually use it when your MP is full. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
And if you're encountering that many Riddles, I'd say you are one lucky bastard. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

QUOTE(Colman @ May 15 2015, 13:30) *

I do not have the patient to do so.......My staff prof is ~402/426 right now. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Mine is 274/364. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

QUOTE(Superlatanium @ May 15 2015, 14:36) *

2494 2 Arcane Blow hits Kodou Yuki for 1256 crushing damage.
2494 1 You gain 0.01 points of staff proficiency.
2493 4 Regen restores 1270 points of health.

Oh, what we are willing to do for some very slightly higher numbers displayed on screen against imaginary monsters...

Very True. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post May 15 2015, 13:16
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QUOTE(tetron @ May 15 2015, 19:09) *

Oops. Just noticed. Typo. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
You sure? High-PL mobs can reduce your effective Block by 20%. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
*ahem* (You already know what I'm implying to say) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
NICE! Now to think about it, ANY measly increase in defense is good for PFUDOR. I omitted Absorb long ago and totally forgot about it. I'm adding it back to my spell list. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
So from poor, you're now bankrupt. You have my sympathy...or not. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
You should change to Spellspam. It's much more versatile.
This reminds me of Cat's staff prof grinding in T&T. Was more than 2 hours! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif)
Haha. For mages that's a different story. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
You didn't answer my question. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
Don't you already have a full Cold set?
Gems are not automatically used when they drop. So it doesn't make any sense that you'd manually use it when your MP is full. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
And if you're encountering that many Riddles, I'd say you are one lucky bastard. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
Mine is 274/364. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
Very True. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

yeah , I'm bankrupt now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

you can donate something for me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)

nah , I use spellspams when change into mage (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post May 15 2015, 13:18
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ May 15 2015, 16:46) *

you can donate something for me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)

Ask something. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ May 15 2015, 16:46) *

nah , I use spellspams when change into mage (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Which element?
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post May 15 2015, 13:21
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QUOTE(tetron @ May 15 2015, 19:18) *

Ask something. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
Which element?

dark , but suspended at this moment (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post May 15 2015, 13:41
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dark , but suspended at this moment (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


go deeper and you won't find the way back (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post May 15 2015, 13:42
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QUOTE(tetron @ May 15 2015, 13:09) *

*ahem* (You already know what I'm implying to say) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

do i? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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post May 15 2015, 14:06
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ May 15 2015, 19:21) *
dark , but suspended at this moment (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
QUOTE(arialinnoc @ May 15 2015, 19:41) *
go deeper and you won't find the way back (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
Once you go black, you'll never go back. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post May 15 2015, 14:06
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QUOTE(arialinnoc @ May 15 2015, 19:41) *

go deeper and you won't find the way back (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

lack of fund at this moment cause I'm bankrupt , aria (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)


I'm praying to snowflake to give me peerless radiant phase to sell (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

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post May 15 2015, 14:15
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ May 15 2015, 16:51) *

dark , but suspended at this moment (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Lv.400, eh? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

QUOTE(arialinnoc @ May 15 2015, 17:11) *

go deeper and you won't find the way back (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Too dark. Use Fire. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

QUOTE(Scremaz @ May 15 2015, 17:12) *

do i? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Yes you do. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ May 15 2015, 17:36) *

I'm praying to snowflake to give me peerless radiant phase to sell (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

I'm not that greedy. I'll be satisfied with Leg radiant. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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post May 15 2015, 14:20
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Once you go black, you'll never go back. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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QUOTE(tetron @ May 15 2015, 20:15) *

Lv.400, eh? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Too dark. Use Fire. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
Yes you do. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
I'm not that greedy. I'll be satisfied with Leg radiant. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

yup , maybe next month I will reach it due to slowly exp gain (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

you need real luck lvl same with danixxx to get that (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post May 15 2015, 14:23
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I'm not that greedy. I'll be satisfied with Leg radiant. :duck:

smax-1 edb and mdb on leg radiant?
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