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post May 8 2015, 21:19
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ May 8 2015, 21:08) *

So was Tenboro a sole survivor from the initial group, or did he take over at some point?

i think the first
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post May 8 2015, 23:03
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I'm guessing the permanent Spirit Stance thing One-handed enjoys is one aspect that might get nerfed. Tenboro once wrote that he intendeds to change how Overcharge works, so it could be through that; it was a long time ago, however.
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post May 8 2015, 23:32
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QUOTE(tetron @ May 8 2015, 21:09) *

Play "Naked Style". It's the best. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)

I second this, tested PFUDOR play and it's more OP than a fully forged set (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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I'm guessing the permanent Spirit Stance thing One-handed enjoys is one aspect that might get nerfed. Tenboro once wrote that he intendeds to change how Overcharge works, so it could be through that; it was a long time ago, however.

Maybe he could buff overcharge gain for 2H and DW instead. It's about time domino strike gave some additionnal OC... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)
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post May 8 2015, 23:41
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QUOTE(boulay @ May 8 2015, 16:32) *
Maybe he could buff overcharge gain for 2H and DW instead. It's about time domino strike gave some additionnal OC... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

Mages would prefer the OC system be reworked so that all classes can make fair use of OC. Mages can not make use of OC in standard play, including spirit stance, focus, defend, and skills, including orbital friendship cannon (physical damage based on your ABD stat!) The one mage skill is also a joke (a MELEE strike to a single monster, causing stun for 5 turns.)
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post May 9 2015, 01:01
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ May 9 2015, 07:41) *

Mages would prefer the OC system be reworked so that all classes can make fair use of OC. Mages can not make use of OC in standard play, including spirit stance, focus, defend, and skills, including orbital friendship cannon (physical damage based on your ABD stat!) The one mage skill is also a joke (a MELEE strike to a single monster, causing stun for 5 turns.)


I generate a lot of OC and use spirit stance ofteen in grindfest. And Defend is also important to keep myself alive during the later rounds of grindfest and pfudo iw.

FRD can actually be useful to mage (use it before t3) if you don't have to sacrifice the evade from Godslayer.

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post May 9 2015, 01:07
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ May 9 2015, 01:01) *

if you don't have to sacrifice the evade from Godslayer.

is it really so much of a problem? just tried with my shade of fleet and it goes from 49.3 with godslayer title to 47.8 with dovahkiin. 1.5 evade less to be able to use FRD isn't all that bad imo; furthermore, there's still shadow veil...
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post May 9 2015, 01:55
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ May 8 2015, 18:01) *
FRD can actually be useful to mage (use it before t3) if you don't have to sacrifice the evade from Godslayer.

Yuck. Creeping though PF/IWBTHfest with FRD is a snoozefest. Not what I'd think of as standard play. Surely you can earn crystals at a fast rate by blasting through a lower difficulty...?

Are you a Holy player? I guess the MP consumption is too much to blast through 1000 rounds without some MP regen. I suppose the higher difficulty and slower play with FRD is warranted if you already have to use focus/ethertap anyway.

I cleared Hellfest yesterday with only 6 heroic mana and some very mild ether tap in a few spots when IA was about to expire, but then I'm an elemental player. I might be ready for Nintendo blasting. Though I'm concerned about how quickly SP can be drained if mobs chain together a bunch of hits... Maybe it's time to forge some holy shoes.

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is it really so much of a problem? just tried with my shade of fleet and it goes from 49.3 with godslayer title to 47.8 with dovahkiin. 1.5 evade less to be able to use FRD isn't all that bad imo; furthermore, there's still shadow veil...

Mage has very poor defense, so it's much more of an issue than for other classes.
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post May 9 2015, 02:08
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Wanna ask about mage , how much upgrade and magic score need to clear PFU arenas including SG fast and smoothly (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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post May 9 2015, 02:20
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Hoi, any idea here ? Had the white screen Bug @ Chrome ! Reinstalled it 2 days ago.. everthing works fine.. aside (every Script is beeing blocked.. when i restart Chrome) if not from Chrome Store.. no big deal actually.. just need to delete them.. restart & put them in again... still kinda annoying !

Before now.. it worked out to just enable developers mode.. any infos here ?
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post May 9 2015, 02:22
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Hoi, any idea here ? Had the white screen Bug @ Chrome ! Reinstalled it 2 days ago.. everthing works fine.. aside (every Script is beeing blocked.. when i restart Chrome) if not from Chrome Store.. no big deal actually.. just need to delete them.. restart & put them in again... still kinda annoying !

Before now.. it worked out to just enable developers mode.. any infos here ?

you can use iron browser (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post May 9 2015, 02:31
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ May 9 2015, 00:08) *
Wanna ask about mage , how much upgrade and magic score need to clear PFU arenas including SG fast and smoothly (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
With my M to L-edb gear, one piece forged to 20 and staff to 5, ordinary arenas have been a piece of cake ever since I got Eco 5 on staff. On T&T I finish with 5-6 unused potions. So I imagine that a quite cheap set of unforged Mmax-EDB would be able to do the same, though with more time and slightly more risk. I think tetron was in this position.

SG arenas are a different story altogether, and I run out of mana way too quickly as elemental. What do other elemental mages do in PF-DwD? Maybe cast Paradise / Ether Theft every time Drain comes off CD?

Holy has it easiest, since they can constantly Ether Theft the schoolgirls and always have more than enough while casting full spell rotation. But due to the sheer amount of time mage has to spend taking hits from SGs, I don't know if 15 pots would be enough to regenerate all the damage done to spirit shield. Maybe one would lower their Stronger Spirit ability for less spirit damage and more Regen/Cure?
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Hoi, any idea here ? Had the white screen Bug @ Chrome ! Reinstalled it 2 days ago.. everthing works fine.. aside (every Script is beeing blocked.. when i restart Chrome) if not from Chrome Store.. no big deal actually.. just need to delete them.. restart & put them in again... still kinda annoying !

Before now.. it worked out to just enable developers mode.. any infos here ?
The only way for userscripts to reliably keep working and not be disabled by Chrome in the latest version is to use Tampermonkey to manage scripts. But the problem is that Tampermonkey, after a few hundred turns, starts eating up a lot of memory (40k on startup -> 200k or more), which significantly slows down your turns / sec on less than high-end computers.

A better method is to use Iron Browser, which has built-in support for userscripts, and doesn't require Tampermonkey.
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post May 9 2015, 02:44
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ May 9 2015, 09:55) *

Yuck. Creeping though PF/IWBTHfest with FRD is a snoozefest. Not what I'd think of as standard play. Surely you can earn crystals at a fast rate by blasting through a lower difficulty...?

Are you a Holy player? I guess the MP consumption is too much to blast through 1000 rounds without some MP regen. I suppose the higher difficulty and slower play with FRD is warranted if you already have to use focus/ethertap anyway.

I cleared Hellfest yesterday with only 6 heroic mana and some very mild ether tap in a few spots when IA was about to expire, but then I'm an elemental player. I might be ready for Nintendo blasting. Though I'm concerned about how quickly SP can be drained if mobs chain together a bunch of hits... Maybe it's time to forge some holy shoes.
Mage has very poor defense, so it's much more of an issue than for other classes.

yeah im a holy mage. And my strat to use FRD only applies in later round, when blasting t3, or even applying imperil almost guarantees a spark proc. So FRD would come in handy to mitigate that risk. Since I'd save a healing turn, I don't think I would lose too many tuns.

As for Hellfest, yeah I can clear it with 8 mp + 4 sp pots, 5600 turns. If I optimize the time to stop tapping and use up all pots, I could do it faster, but there's too much risk and I'm already doing ninfest anyway.
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post May 9 2015, 02:46
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ May 9 2015, 02:31) *
The only way for userscripts to reliably keep working and not be disabled by Chrome in the latest version is to use Tampermonkey to manage scripts. But the problem is that Tampermonkey, after a few hundred turns, starts eating up a lot of memory (40k on startup -> 200k or more), which significantly slows down your turns / sec on less than high-end computers.

A better method is to use Iron Browser, which has built-in support for userscripts, and doesn't require Tampermonkey.


Thx.. a lot ! This is superb info ^^ I, just need 2-3 sek to replace the scripts.. that not working @ Chrome ! Dont really want to change my browser ^^ Oh well im using Firefox/Chrome.. Iron will get a chance at least ^^ Thx !

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post May 9 2015, 02:49
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ May 9 2015, 10:31) *

With my M to L-edb gear, one piece forged to 20 and staff to 5, ordinary arenas have been a piece of cake ever since I got Eco 5 on staff. On T&T I finish with 5-6 unused potions. So I imagine that a quite cheap set of unforged Mmax-EDB would be able to do the same, though with more time and slightly more risk. I think tetron was in this position.

SG arenas are a different story altogether, and I run out of mana way too quickly as elemental. What do other elemental mages do in PF-DwD? Maybe cast Paradise / Ether Theft every time Drain comes off CD?

Holy has it easiest, since they can constantly Ether Theft the schoolgirls and always have more than enough while casting full spell rotation. But due to the sheer amount of time mage has to spend taking hits from SGs, I don't know if 15 pots would be enough to regenerate all the damage done to spirit shield. Maybe one would lower their Stronger Spirit ability for less spirit damage and more Regen/Cure?The only way for userscripts to reliably keep working and not be disabled by Chrome in the latest version is to use Tampermonkey to manage scripts. But the problem is that Tampermonkey, after a few hundred turns, starts eating up a lot of memory (40k on startup -> 200k or more), which significantly slows down your turns / sec on less than high-end computers.


Back when I started maging, I could clear DwD with +5 mmax full phase, 5 mp pot (4 of them for the first 50 rounds (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) ), 3-5 sp pots. Afterwards it's just optimizing your drain frequency to use up all the pots
Only with Holy mage is SG easier than normal arena

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post May 9 2015, 03:47
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ May 8 2015, 17:31) *

SG arenas are a different story altogether, and I run out of mana way too quickly as elemental. What do other elemental mages do in PF-DwD? Maybe cast Paradise / Ether Theft every time Drain comes off CD?


You basically have two options:

1) Ether Tap and Focus up to a certain point, then rely on your potions for the remainder of the arena. Or you can do it the other way around; up to you. When figuring out how far your potions can take you, I don't recommend factoring in all of them; you should set one or two aside as a safety net. I don't take any spirit potions when I do this so I can carry more mana potions; it's easy to use schoolgirls to recover SP with Spirit Theft.

2) Ether Theft should be able to take you all the way through as long as you remember to proc it once every round, or once every other round. I found it annoying, but you might prefer it.

Eventually after considerable forging, you should be able to speed through the the first two PFUDOR schoolgirl arenas without relying on Ether Tap or Theft, or Focus. DwD takes a lot more.
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post May 9 2015, 04:41
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ May 9 2015, 08:31) *

A better method is to use Iron Browser, which has built-in support for userscripts, and doesn't require Tampermonkey.

Is there a way to disable the screen flash in Iron / Chrome? I only use firefox because of this (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post May 9 2015, 04:50
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Is there a way to disable the screen flash in Iron / Chrome? I only use firefox because of this (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
With a good connection, screen flash rarely happens in my experience. When it does occur, I prefer its annoyance over the slower T/s of other browsers.

I remember someone made a script utilizing AJAX for retrieving HV data, which was mentioned in a thread as a possible solution for the annoying flashing, but I haven't tried it myself.
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post May 9 2015, 05:10
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ May 9 2015, 10:50) *

With a good connection, screen flash rarely happens in my experience. When it does occur, I prefer its annoyance over the slower T/s of other browsers.

I remember someone made a script utilizing AJAX for retrieving HV data, which was mentioned in a thread as a possible solution for the annoying flashing, but I haven't tried it myself.

No, chrome flashes for every page load. You can press f5 in chrome and firefox and see what I mean (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post May 9 2015, 05:18
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QUOTE(Void Domain @ May 9 2015, 03:10) *
No, chrome flashes for every page load. You can press f5 in chrome and firefox and see what I mean (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
I just tried Chrome again (haven't used it for HV in a while) and I see what you mean. But for some reason, Iron doesn't flash, for me at least.

Strange, since they're built using nearly identical architecture.
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post May 9 2015, 05:23
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What versions of Chrome and Iron are you guys comparing?
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