Loading. Please Wait... 
 |
 |
 |
Asked the Experts, For archive purposes only. Please use Ask the Expert! for questions |
|
May 6 2015, 19:16
|
nec1986
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 2,569
Joined: 12-October 14

|
Already 15, but difference in lotd doesnt looks significant. Thats mostly my first very good drop from beginning. I had one peerless light protection and legendary phase, but both doesnt worth much. And doing mostly pf diff arena, but that was hell. So its very-very lucky, because base chance for Lgrade on hell in 5 times lower without rare/ordinary advantage.
If you wanna do fest than hell is better anyway. Gear doesnt worth much and its very-very rare to get something decent. Chance for legendary on pf is near 1/600, chance for rare type is also 10%. Its already once per...300-600k mobs? And its still can have bad rolls, types and so on. F.e. waki of of the battlecaster.
|
|
|
|
 |
|
May 6 2015, 19:16
|
hitokiri84
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 10,945
Joined: 24-December 07

|
QUOTE(tetron @ May 6 2015, 07:09)  Speaking of which, how many AP training is sufficient for 1H Power + Elemental Mage at the same time? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) At level 443, I would need training at 332 to full have everything I need for both. Then +9 at level 445 for a regen upgrade, and at level 450 a bunch more. +5 for the last spirit tank, +15 for the last level of Archmage, and +15 for the last level of Ripened Soul (for emergency SP recovery.) Take out the 7 gained from leveling and that's training at 369 @ level 450. It's much cheaper to just spend 30s swapping them. QUOTE(tetron @ May 6 2015, 08:50)  Which brings back an old question again: Can Hellfest be cleared now as ANY mage? If so, then how?
Did something happen to mage since dani and the chinese guy (both wind) cleared on PFUDOR? I can still clear Hellfest regularly with wind. I haven't tried Nintendo yet though, because I don't think my damage is high enough. Still waiting on the last damage hath perk.
|
|
|
|
 |
|
May 6 2015, 19:20
|
CapableScoutMan
Group: Members
Posts: 736
Joined: 30-November 09

|
QUOTE(Void Domain @ May 6 2015, 19:59)  @CapableScoutMan You should read this ( https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=115308) Or you can buy a gold star for about 30m I see, thanks. I was aiming for the latter. I thought it was closer to 23-25m, though, but I guess times change.
|
|
|
|
 |
|
May 6 2015, 19:25
|
tetron
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 5,583
Joined: 30-July 14

|
QUOTE(nec1986 @ May 6 2015, 22:46)  And its still can have bad rolls, types and so on. F.e. waki of of the battlecaster.
I AM looking for a decent Leg Waki of BC for a while. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif) QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ May 6 2015, 22:46)  At level 443, I would need training at 332 to full have everything I need for both. Then +9 at level 445 for a regen upgrade, and at level 450 a bunch more. +5 for the last spirit tank, +15 for the last level of Archmage, and +15 for the last level of Ripened Soul (for emergency SP recovery.) Take out the 7 gained from leveling and that's training at 369 @ level 450. It's much cheaper to just spend 30s swapping them.
Yeah, so it seems. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif) QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ May 6 2015, 22:46)  I can still clear Hellfest regularly with wind. I haven't tried Nintendo yet though, because I don't think my damage is high enough. Still waiting on the last damage hath perk.
Interesting. Lv.50 Forged I guess? Oh, and do you use Imperil? This post has been edited by tetron: May 6 2015, 19:25
|
|
|
|
 |
|
May 6 2015, 20:28
|
Cleavs
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 24,317
Joined: 18-January 07

|
QUOTE(nec1986 @ May 6 2015, 19:16)  Already 15, but difference in lotd doesnt looks significant. Thats mostly my first very good drop from beginning. I had one peerless light protection and legendary phase, but both doesnt worth much.
LotD 15? peerless? L force shield? leg phase? now i really feel like i wasted soemthing like 3M on useless trainings (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
|
|
|
May 6 2015, 21:55
|
Dammon
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 2,867
Joined: 7-April 07

|
QUOTE(Scremaz @ May 6 2015, 11:28)  LotD 15? peerless? L force shield? leg phase? now i really feel like i wasted soemthing like 3M on useless trainings (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) You aren't the only one. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
|
|
|
|
 |
|
May 6 2015, 22:01
|
nec1986
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 2,569
Joined: 12-October 14

|
QUOTE(Scremaz @ May 6 2015, 21:28)  LotD 15? peerless? L force shield? leg phase? now i really feel like i wasted soemthing like 3M on useless trainings (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Thats not something special. That phase worth only 1m. Its like...3 days with arena clears? And that peerless could worth even less, because totally useless. Peerless has static chance. Its probably static at all and means only amount of mobs and luck determines probability. Wiki says its 1/100k gear drops, but legendary is quite easy to get. Actually i collected a bit more samples after 13-->15 upgrade. So its a bit better drop and my average pxp increased from 289,9 to 290,75. Its probably from 1/92 for M+ to 1/85. Not something very-very impressive, but still chance is a bit higher and generally in Mgrade area, because all other is mainly same. But of course its not compare to difficulty. Hell-->PF gives 269-->289 pxp increase. Thats mostly why im doing pf arenas. Its solid exp, tokens and some chance to get equip sometimes. This post has been edited by nec1986: May 6 2015, 23:48
|
|
|
|
 |
|
May 7 2015, 00:31
|
hitokiri84
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 10,945
Joined: 24-December 07

|
QUOTE(tetron @ May 6 2015, 12:25)  Interesting. Lv.50 Forged I guess? Oh, and do you use Imperil?
staff, cap, robe, pants have MDB, EDB, INT, WIS maxed, evade almost maxed. gloves, shoes ~34 phase are all Mag max roll on EDB with pretty good INT/WIS/Evade. Some are old and don't have AGI and/or Resist. One is really old and has DEX. also have Golden Compasses And no Imperil. I only play GF as high as I can without Imperil, because it would be a waste of time otherwise. Not top-of-the-line, but it's pretty good. I refuse to fight others or waste tons on raffles lotteries for marginal upgrades though, so I'm stuck with this until tenboro gives us the revamped equipment system. PLEASE LET IT BE THIS. Only earning your own stuff will make HV fun again. This post has been edited by hitokiri84: May 7 2015, 00:33
|
|
|
|
 |
|
May 7 2015, 01:12
|
n125
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 6,282
Joined: 23-May 08

|
Making account-bound peerless actually have a realistic chance of dropping with a 100+ round quality bonus would actually make me play Grindfest. I like that idea.
|
|
|
May 7 2015, 02:33
|
nobody_xxx
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 13,753
Joined: 7-December 10

|
QUOTE(n125 @ May 7 2015, 07:12)  Making account-bound peerless actually have a realistic chance of dropping with a 100+ round quality bonus would actually make me play Grindfest. I like that idea.
peerless just a myth for me (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
|
|
|
May 7 2015, 05:29
|
Vanz/452
Group: Members
Posts: 467
Joined: 15-September 10

|
Hello everyone, one question..
Recently I been having trouble deciding what kind of weapons should use in my DW.. I tried sword + waki, reaper + waki, club + reaper, reaper + reaper (xD)
In your experience, if you have, what kind of weapon is better for main and off hand?
|
|
|
|
 |
|
May 7 2015, 05:41
|
helno
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 613
Joined: 17-December 13

|
QUOTE(Vanz/452 @ May 7 2015, 13:29)  Hello everyone, one question..
Recently I been having trouble deciding what kind of weapons should use in my DW.. I tried sword + waki, reaper + waki, club + reaper, reaper + reaper (xD)
In your experience, if you have, what kind of weapon is better for main and off hand?
For DW, the current viable ones that I know of are: - 1. Club of slaughter mainhand + Rapier of nimble/balance offhand = Club for stunning the targetted mob so that it is not able to parry your attacks. Rapier for penetrated armor and that means more damage. 2. Axe of slaughter mainhand + Rapier of nimble/balance offhand = High damage setup but probably needs overpower for the weapons in IW to mitigate being parried a lot. 3. Rapier of slaughter mainhand + waki of nimble/balance offhand = High parry but not so fantastic damage. One of the more defensive setups but with mobs being so highly upgraded and parry being unable to block magic attacks this is somewhat debatable on whether it is useful or not. Actually, I also believe this setup is used mainly because of 1H users wanting to switch over to DW but lazy to buy/upgrade another weapon for it. So they will be using their Rapier of slaughter + a waki to play DW (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) This post has been edited by helno: May 7 2015, 05:43
|
|
|
|
 |
|
May 7 2015, 05:42
|
nobody_xxx
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 13,753
Joined: 7-December 10

|
QUOTE(Vanz/452 @ May 7 2015, 10:29)  Hello everyone, one question..
Recently I been having trouble deciding what kind of weapons should use in my DW.. I tried sword + waki, reaper + waki, club + reaper, reaper + reaper (xD)
In your experience, if you have, what kind of weapon is better for main and off hand?
in the past , I'm using axe + rapier for DW ( heavy ) and club + rapier ( light ) now , go for club + rapier (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
|
|
|
May 7 2015, 05:57
|
takehoes
Newcomer
 Group: Members
Posts: 27
Joined: 9-April 15

|
when it says I gained the effect one chain what does that mean
|
|
|
May 7 2015, 05:59
|
Superlatanium
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 7,643
Joined: 27-November 13

|
QUOTE(takehoes @ May 7 2015, 03:57)  when it says I gained the effect one chain what does that mean http://ehwiki.org/wiki/skillsIf you have the next skill unlocked (and have enough OC), you can use it until the Chain effect expires.
|
|
|
|
 |
|
May 7 2015, 07:14
|
Colman
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 7,333
Joined: 15-November 10

|
QUOTE(helno @ May 7 2015, 11:41)  For DW, the current viable ones that I know of are: - 1. Club of slaughter mainhand + Rapier of nimble/balance offhand = Club for stunning the targetted mob so that it is not able to parry your attacks. Rapier for penetrated armor and that means more damage. 2. Axe of slaughter mainhand + Rapier of nimble/balance offhand = High damage setup but probably needs overpower for the weapons in IW to mitigate being parried a lot. 3. Rapier of slaughter mainhand + waki of nimble/balance offhand = High parry but not so fantastic damage. One of the more defensive setups but with mobs being so highly upgraded and parry being unable to block magic attacks this is somewhat debatable on whether it is useful or not. Actually, I also believe this setup is used mainly because of 1H users wanting to switch over to DW but lazy to buy/upgrade another weapon for it. So they will be using their Rapier of slaughter + a waki to play DW (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Tried all 3. 1 and 2 require a balance rapier with forged accuracy (100% offhand chance) to reach the killing speed speed of 3. It is because 1 & 2 have to rely on offhand strike to infect PA. And low parry/speed require much more healing. Mainhand rapier give a very high chance of PA; offhand waki of nimble give very high parry, and some attack speed bonus. Making the most balanced setup. This build do not really need a rapier of slaughter on main hand. A rapier of balance will do. The overall speed is more or less the same. When defense is no longer an issue, you can also switch to waki of balance for higher offhand chance. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Of course, you may still go for 1 & 2 in late game. When forging cost is not an issue. This post has been edited by Colman: May 7 2015, 07:17
|
|
|
|
 |
|
May 7 2015, 07:18
|
qw3rty67
Group: Members
Posts: 1,118
Joined: 30-April 09

|
What are the hellfest and pfudorfest times for each style?
|
|
|
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:
|
 |
 |
 |
|
|
|