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I have 2 ia slots for haste and protection. Cast spirit shield mostly in second half of fest and it also gives small chance for channeling. So i dont know should i rly buy 3rd or maybe rr perk.

About arti. Actually drop chance for this always looks higher than in wiki.

Reminds me actually, the higher IA perks are really useful for grindfests. The other perks are still more important, (HP, Mana, Spirit, RR and maybe even Daemon Duality) but IA3 gives so much reduction that I don't have to use mana pots at all for IWBTHfests. This means more space for spirit pots, which you'll really need.

My questions are:
1) Most of my melee gear is missing Primary Attribute Bonuses. How big of an impact does that have on my gameplay?
2) What should I be looking for in replacements? For example, should I prioritize Attack Damage or Physical/Magical Mitigation when replacing my armor?
3) What IW potencies should I be looking for? It looks like Butcher and Fatality for rapiers and Juggernaut for armor.

Aim for at least 2 of 3 (Str, Dex, End). Str and Dex don't necessarily have a huge impact, but they do add to your damage, crit rate, and counter-attack chance. Getting at least 2/3 is very easy. Whether you need Endurance depends on what you're doing - if grindfest, it's essential; if only ordinary arenas, it's unnecessary (past a certain level). If you're going to forge to 5 (or more), you should have all 3 PABs, or the other stats need to be amazing.

ADB is the most important stat by far. If something has S - 5 ADB or more, for instance, that's quite bad, and you'd be better off finding something better. If you want to Grindfest a lot (eventually - it's probably not a good idea at your level), you might look for pieces with not-too-terrible physical mitigation and crushing mitigation.

If I were you I'd be aiming to just do arenas @ IW / PF. Given the cost of Power Slaughters, cost-efficient gear for that would probably be Exquisites with Str/Dex and ADB not too far from Smax. Probably 200k-400k each. Rapier is fine if you IW to 10.

You don't have to fill out all slots with Power Slaughter yet. You might want a single (Shielding?) Plate of Protection to up your defense for 40 levels or so, until full Power Slaughter is good enough for PFUDOR.

Juggernaut is best by far. Capacitor and Holyproof are next best, but unless you have hundreds of shards and lots of free time, just aim for Juggernaut 3+. Butcher/Fatality for rapier.

Reminds me actually, the higher IA perks are really useful for grindfests. The other perks are still more important, (HP, Mana, Spirit, RR and maybe even Daemon Duality) but IA3 gives so much reduction that I don't have to use mana pots at all for IWBTHfests. This means more space for spirit pots, which you'll really need.

Doesn't spirit theft has a much more efficient (percent of total MP gauge -> spirit conversion) than spirit pots? Maybe unnecessary if you can finish GF already, but still more efficient, and could save you some Focusing turns.

I can barely do a full IWBTHfest, and that's with all the relevant perks and high end gear + 30-40 levels of forging physical+magical mitigation on armor, full block and physical damage on my rapier and shield.

How long does it take to clear w/1H? I assume this is with mousemelee and lots of friendship cannon spam, right?

My questions are:
1) Most of my melee gear is missing Primary Attribute Bonuses. How big of an impact does that have on my gameplay?
2) What should I be looking for in replacements? For example, should I prioritize Attack Damage or Physical/Magical Mitigation when replacing my armor?
3) What IW potencies should I be looking for? It looks like Butcher and Fatality for rapiers and Juggernaut for armor.

1. PABs on Light/Heavy are critical to your survival. They give you more HP and SP, more PMit, more Evade/Parry (and depending on which gear you're using, more MP, MMmit and Block too). Oh, and more Attack Damage, too.

2. Your armour should give you STR/END/DEX/AGI (for my money, in that order). After that, look at the prefixes and suffixes. If heavy, you should prioritise Plate Protection (even better if you can get Mithril) or Power Slaughter. If light, probably Shade Shadowdancer (although I go for Arcanist myself, but that's an abnormal choice). Light armours rely on avoidance (unless you forge the heck out of them), so look for pieces that have low Burden and high Evade. In terms of weapons, you need to look for, yes, Slaughter pieces. Or Balance. Ethereal or Elemental is best also. And check out the weapon procs - make sure the percentage and number of turns/DOT are near max.

3. Personally, I would stick with Butcher and Swift Strike for weapons, and Juggernaut & Capacitor on armour.

3. Personally, I would stick with Butcher and Swift Strike for weapons, and Juggernaut & Capacitor on armour.

Since he's 1h/heavy, SS is a pretty bad choice... SS could work if he always featherweights and plays GF, but at that level, that's not happening. (Also, no point looking for Dex on that armor, since it doesn't exist)

How long does it take to clear w/1H? I assume this is with mousemelee and lots of friendship cannon spam, right?

Indeed. Takes around 2 hours and 30 minutes with 3.5t/s

That wind mage who completed PFUDOR Grindfest wrote that it took him about 100 minutes, IIRC. Probably took way more effort and attention than One-handed would, though.

That wind mage who completed PFUDOR Grindfest wrote that it took him about 100 minutes, IIRC. Probably took way more effort and attention than One-handed would, though.

I would definitely get more done if I could go the lazy route...

But I only have an exquisite slaughter set, so I'm not sure if it's really worth forging. I guess I have to start somewhere though.

I'd like to see a video of that supposed PFUDORfest in 100 minutes as a wind mage too. I don't see how it's possible even if you have every possible advantage.

I would definitely get more done if I could go the lazy route...

But I only have an exquisite slaughter set, so I'm not sure if it's really worth forging. I guess I have to start somewhere though.

I'd like to see a video of that supposed PFUDORfest in 100 minutes as a wind mage too. I don't see how it's possible even if you have every possible advantage.

Supposedly spamming scrolls and infusions to the point where it's barely any profitable anymore.

Yeah; I don't doubt that he cleared it, but I'm skeptical of the clear time too. The guy was around level 400 at the time and nothing about his equipment seemed all that remarkable, other than the fact that he was using Heimdall shoes to increase the effectiveness of Cure.

It's just hard to believe that scrolls made enough of a difference to allow him to speed through 1000 rounds, facing ever-increasing damage.

Shadow Veil - Spell: 25%, Scroll: 30%
Haste - Spell: 50%, Scroll: 60%
Protection - Spell: 30%, Scroll: 50% (difference maker?)
Absorb - Spell: 90%, Scroll: 100%

He had no Elemental proficiency equipment, so he probably had to rely on Imperil a lot. Then factor in the time spent healing and recovering MP and SP...

...No idea!

Yeah; I don't doubt that he cleared it, but I'm skeptical of the clear time too. The guy was around level 400 at the time and nothing about his equipment seemed all that remarkable, other than the fact that he was using Heimdall shoes to increase the effectiveness of Cure.

It's just hard to believe that scrolls made enough of a difference to allow him to speed through 1000 rounds, facing ever-increasing damage.

Shadow Veil - Spell: 25%, Scroll: 30%
Haste - Spell: 50%, Scroll: 60%
Protection - Spell: 30%, Scroll: 50% (difference maker?)
Absorb - Spell: 90%, Scroll: 100%

He had no Elemental proficiency equipment, so he probably had to rely on Imperil a lot. Then factor in the time spent healing and recovering MP and SP...

...No idea!

The story sounds embellished at the least. Protection scrolls don't protect that well.

Probably a placebo effect anyway. The drops are still only Mag usually, or maybe 1 legendary. Then they drop back to the usual Sup shit.

Interesting. What are the category of those Weapons usually? Leather?

IA doesnt gives much benefits.

You sure? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Here you go, these stats are with fully featherweighted gear though.

Equipment links please. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Indeed. Takes around 2 hours and 30 minutes with 3.5t/s

Anyone knows Cat's clear time of PF-GF? I've forgotten what it was.

Yeah; I don't doubt that he cleared it, but I'm skeptical of the clear time too. The guy was around level 400 at the time and nothing about his equipment seemed all that remarkable, other than the fact that he was using Heimdall shoes to increase the effectiveness of Cure.

It's just hard to believe that scrolls made enough of a difference to allow him to speed through 1000 rounds, facing ever-increasing damage.

Shadow Veil - Spell: 25%, Scroll: 30%
Haste - Spell: 50%, Scroll: 60%
Protection - Spell: 30%, Scroll: 50% (difference maker?)
Absorb - Spell: 90%, Scroll: 100%

He had no Elemental proficiency equipment, so he probably had to rely on Imperil a lot. Then factor in the time spent healing and recovering MP and SP...

...No idea!

May be he had a tremendous luck or something?

I'm getting to the point where my inventory is filling up with hundreds of -- probably -- crappy exquisite gear, so I'd like to seek advice on what to bazaar, salvage, and otherwise. I've previously heard this advice:

Average and worse wood and cloth -> salvage for scrap wood and cloth
Non-rare exquisite wood and cloth -> salvage for mid-grade wood and cloth so I have some to forge with
Junk magnificents and legendaries -> salvage for high-grade
Sell everything else

Here's what I've translated it to, using the item manager script for regex:

bazaar
====
-$locked,(exquisite|superior|average|crude|fair),leather,-(I don't use light so no point salvaging any of this)
-$locked,(average|crude|fair),(axe|sword|mace|rapier|club|plate|leather),-(no use for scrap metal or scrap leather)
-$locked,(superior|average|crude|fair),(shade|phase|power|katana|wakizashi|katalox| force),-(no use for LG materials)

salvage
=====
-$locked,(average|crude|fair),-(scrap wood and cloth)
-$locked,superior,-(shade|phase|power|katana|wakizashi|katalox| force)
-$locked,exquisite,(oak staff|redwood|willow|cotton),-(MG wood and cloth)

My problem is with the last two regex.
- Is there no superior equipment that is worth more than LG metal/leather price, or bazaar credits? Eg, an smax rapier of slaughter
- MG wood/cloth is worth about 500c. Is it really best to salvage these? or how can I decide with greater finesse?

May be he had a tremendous luck or something?

He wrote that his build enabled him to reliably clear it 5 times prior to posting about it on Baidu.

https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=3361656
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=3361773

Interesting. What are the category of those Weapons usually? Leather?

I can't say I remember any of them, so probably leather and wakis.

He wrote that his build enabled him to reliably clear it 5 times prior to posting about it on Baidu.

https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=3361656
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=3361773

I still don't think that's anywhere near possible in 100 minutes, unless it's a bot for everything except riddlemaster. It would be easier to just ask dani how long it took him.

This post has been edited by hitokiri84: May 2 2015, 12:16

I'm getting to the point where my inventory is filling up with hundreds of -- probably -- crappy exquisite gear, so I'd like to seek advice on what to bazaar, salvage, and otherwise. I've previously heard this advice:
Here's what I've translated it to, using the item manager script for regex:

bazaar
====
-$locked,(exquisite|superior|average|crude|fair),leather,-(I don't use light so no point salvaging any of this)
-$locked,(average|crude|fair),(axe|sword|mace|rapier|club|plate|leather),-(no use for scrap metal or scrap leather)
-$locked,(superior|average|crude|fair),(shade|phase|power|katana|wakizashi|katalox| force),-(no use for LG materials)

salvage
=====
-$locked,(average|crude|fair),-(scrap wood and cloth)
-$locked,superior,-(shade|phase|power|katana|wakizashi|katalox| force)
-$locked,exquisite,(oak staff|redwood|willow|cotton),-(MG wood and cloth)

My problem is with the last two regex.
- Is there no superior equipment that is worth more than LG metal/leather price, or bazaar credits? Eg, an smax rapier of slaughter
- MG wood/cloth is worth about 500c. Is it really best to salvage these? or how can I decide with greater finesse?

A Smax Superior Rapier of Slaughter (3 PAB) can fetch good amount if it's Parry is also Smax (or almost Smax). Otherwise = no value.
MG mats can only be auctioned as a batch. I myself don't bother to salvage them (I just Bazaar them if they are below "okay" level). I only salvage crap Mag (I keep any Legs as memento, even if they are shit).

For Bazaar, this is the strategy I use:
Equipment is Rare (Waki, Katana, Katalox, Force, Phase, Shade, Power) = Bazaar fodder after repairing (if Condition is 89% or less)
Equipment is Common (All the rest) = Bazaar fodder without repairing (repairing cost is higher than the selling profit)

I sell equipments to Bazaar when my Inventory is nearly filled with equipments (i.e. 950/1000 or more).

He wrote that his build enabled him to reliably clear it 5 times prior to posting about it on Baidu.

https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=3361656
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=3361773

Then I'm utterly confused! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

I can't say I remember any of them, so probably leather and wakis.

Speaking of which, why are Waki drops more common than other "Rare" category drops? Is it a bug? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Anyone knows Cat's clear time of PF-GF? I've forgotten what it was.

PFUDORfest takes 125~135 min for me as 1H melee with 1.8~2.2 turn / sec

https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=3361656
A 405 level wind mage (maybe with fully-forged gears and spamming scrolls?) cleared PFUDORfest in 95-100 min.

Cats can clear PFfest faster than I can an IWBTHfest while I can do double his turn rate. Makes me sad.

This post has been edited by erwtsnert: May 2 2015, 12:25

Then I'm utterly confused! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)
Speaking of which, why are Waki drops more common than other "Rare" category drops? Is it a bug? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

3x more common than other. Cute wakizashis everywhere~

Indeed. Takes around 2 hours and 30 minutes with 3.5t/s

I only reach around 650 IWBTHfest with that time (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

poor turn per sec (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)