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Apr 29 2015, 18:19
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malkatmp
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Apr 29 2015, 18:12)  quite useful for mages, isn't it?
also, no evades.
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Apr 29 2015, 19:06
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Dead-ed
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QUOTE(tetron @ Apr 29 2015, 08:45)  You're forgetting what TenB said: Equipments from Shrine won't be Level Bound until equipped by anyone. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) i thought pre-patch equipments which won't get bounded. I miss then.
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Apr 29 2015, 19:22
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Dead-ed @ Apr 29 2015, 19:06)  i thought pre-patch equipments which won't get bounded. I miss then.
pre-patch won't be bounded as well, but they will become in the moment next patch will be released & you'll equip them
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Apr 29 2015, 19:33
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tetron
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QUOTE(malkatmp @ Apr 29 2015, 21:49)  also, no evades.
Yup. 0% Evade for monsters affected by MagNet. QUOTE(Dead-ed @ Apr 29 2015, 22:36)  i thought pre-patch equipments which won't get bounded. I miss then.
Pre-Patch equipments (Until they are equipped after patch goes online) + Post-Patch equipments generated from shrine (Until they are equipped) = Unbound. This post has been edited by tetron: Apr 29 2015, 19:34
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Apr 29 2015, 20:55
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Superlatanium
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QUOTE(Fudo Masamune @ Apr 29 2015, 14:27)  Is there any urgent need to upgrade that set? I'm thinking about upgrading it whenever any better power heavy shows up, have no intention to get crazy and start buying expensive stuff from wts threads. You're probably best off using either Power Slaughter or Plate of Protection. Power Protection, for instance, kind of defeats the purpose of using Power in the first place (and Power Slaughter has more than double the ADB of power non-slaughter). Mag and Leg plate is very very cheap, don't worry - it's the Power Slaughter that's expensive. Still, everything you have now looks usable, except for the gauntlets. Rapier could also be upgraded pretty cheaply (more weapon damage, PA chance). QUOTE(Fudo Masamune @ Apr 29 2015, 14:27)  also, what element for protection augmentation is better between those four? I'm curently using the shock one, following my weapon elements, I don't know if the ailment increase the elemental damage from that or not. Elec spike shield is for offense, everything else is for defense. You can try to match spike shield to weapon to decrease resistance to weapon element (eg. use fire spike shield to enhance Cold Strike), but the effect is minimal. Pick whichever you want, I don't think it's something to consider at your level. Deprecating prof 40 for Silence will be very useful if you can identify which monsters are Sprites and Celestials and you know you won't be able to kill all of them before they fill up SP gauge. But unless it's for that or for schoolgirls or FSM (which you haven't fought yet), there isn't much use for depreciating prof.
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Apr 29 2015, 22:55
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Aegnor Alkarin
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Apr 29 2015, 23:15
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Frederiksc
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1st Boots. Just Exq and 2 PAB. 2nd Chest. You miss a hell of END on that.
Do not sell the pieces you exchange, IW the newly acquired ones to IW10 first.
This post has been edited by Frederiksc: Apr 29 2015, 23:17
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Apr 30 2015, 02:15
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dragonandon
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Is this for the cash-in action or are old trophies contiguous?
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Apr 30 2015, 04:12
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nobody_xxx
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QUOTE(Aegnor Alkarin @ Apr 30 2015, 03:55)  I think you should get void strike first for your rapier (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Apr 30 2015, 06:30
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xmagus
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Apr 30 2015, 04:55)  Deprecating prof 40 for Silence will be very useful if you can identify which monsters are Sprites and Celestials and you know you won't be able to kill all of them before they fill up SP gauge. But unless it's for that or for schoolgirls or FSM (which you haven't fought yet), there isn't much use for depreciating prof.
That's... not entirely true. If you research Imperil to its maximum (both Better and Faster), your need for a weapon to proc PA is significantly reduced. Add that to a good void-damage-dealing Mace, and suddenly 2H makes more sense than it normally does.
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Apr 30 2015, 06:49
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Superlatanium
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QUOTE(xmagus @ Apr 30 2015, 04:30)  That's... not entirely true. If you research Imperil to its maximum (both Better and Faster), your need for a weapon to proc PA is significantly reduced. Add that to a good void-damage-dealing Mace, and suddenly 2H makes more sense than it normally does.
That requires level 310 / 330. He is level 178. That's why there isn't much use for it right now. Also, if you're going to take the effort to Imperil monsters (instead of mousemelee while watching anime or something), you might as well just mage if you're going to put that much concentration into things, right? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Rapiers with good PA allow you to significantly reduce pmit on monsters you attack without having to pay any attention to what you're actually doing. It's a much better option than Imperil, especially given that Imperil frequently misses / is resisted. I doubt 2h is a good idea unless one is satisfied playing on a lower difficulty, or has crazy good gear.
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Apr 30 2015, 07:02
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hitokiri84
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QUOTE(Frederiksc @ Apr 28 2015, 03:22)  @ Mages taking too much dmg and SoL triggers
DPS Prefix Staves Just tell me something dear mages: Why is your evade < 50%? Using DPS staves in favor of ETHEREAL ones? Consider a Featherweight Shard if you use a non eth one. Evading is harshly reduced when burden is present and if evade is your only chance to reduce incomming hits you are busted. Even for me as Shade user I almost /have/ to use an ethereal weapon because of a harsh reduction of about 4.5% on evade.
You won't find a single serious mage player that prioritizes evade over damage. More evade/resist/agi on phase is always welcome, but using an eth staff would just be too crippling to the aspect that draws people to mage: max speed glass cannon. The reduction in damage is massive for only a marginal gain in evasion. The damage can be mitigated by massive reserves of MP and SP, liberal use of Cure (on PFUDOR or deep in GF), and scripting to keep you from dying when SoL triggers (from playing so fast.) QUOTE(treesloth @ Apr 28 2015, 11:22)  I have some theory about diminishing returns I've always felt that equipment drops are better for a few hours if I don't play for a long time...
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Apr 30 2015, 08:03
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Colman
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Apr 30 2015, 12:49)  That requires level 310 / 330. He is level 178. That's why there isn't much use for it right now. Also, if you're going to take the effort to Imperil monsters (instead of mousemelee while watching anime or something), you might as well just mage if you're going to put that much concentration into things, right? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Rapiers with good PA allow you to significantly reduce pmit on monsters you attack without having to pay any attention to what you're actually doing. It's a much better option than Imperil, especially given that Imperil frequently misses / is resisted. Mage also do not need concentration. Can use SpellSpam like mouse melee. Choose the right difficulty and no heal is needed normally. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) QUOTE I doubt 2h is a good idea unless one is satisfied playing on a lower difficulty, or has crazy good gear. 2H is a bad idea even for lower difficulty. Its damage and hit rate is too low. Need too many turns to kill but its defense is not better than mage.
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Apr 30 2015, 10:48
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tetron
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Apr 30 2015, 10:32)  I've always felt that equipment drops are better for a few hours if I don't play for a long time...
How long is that "long time" usually? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) QUOTE(Colman @ Apr 30 2015, 11:33)  2H is a bad idea even for lower difficulty. Its damage and hit rate is too low. Need too many turns to kill but its defense is not better than mage.
Mages are safer than 2h because they can kill way faster, even though both has similar defense. (Actually, Obsolete Phase have much better defense) Initially I was tempted by Mace because of 'Stun', but turned out it was a trap all along! When the monsters come out of Stun, you're pretty much screwed. And Longsword isn't viable on higher difficulty. So for 2H, Estoc seems to be the best choice. But defense is still shit. This post has been edited by tetron: Apr 30 2015, 10:49
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Apr 30 2015, 12:43
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VriskaSerket
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QUOTE(tetron @ Apr 30 2015, 08:48)  (Actually, Obsolete Phase have much better defense)
prooflink pls
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Apr 30 2015, 13:43
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Cleavs
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speaking of which, can someone tell me which was the point on retired classes like dragon hide, silk, gossamer, kevlar, chainmail?
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Apr 30 2015, 14:15
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tetron
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QUOTE(VriskaSerket @ Apr 30 2015, 16:13)  prooflink pls
I was talking about the DEX from the obsolete Phases, which increases Parry. Mages already have good MMI and Resist. The thing they lack is the physical defense.
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Apr 30 2015, 14:43
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VriskaSerket
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QUOTE(tetron @ Apr 30 2015, 12:15)  I was talking about the DEX from the obsolete Phases, which increases Parry. Mages already have good MMI and Resist. The thing they lack is the physical defense.
just checked random items. full old set - 33% parry, 36% resist full new set - 22% parry, 66% resist in my current 2old/3new - 26 parry/62 resist. none great old phase in auctions in last year, so if you want more damage - new phase only choice. +-5% parry not a big deal if you can do a glass cannon.
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Apr 30 2015, 17:25
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tetron
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QUOTE(VriskaSerket @ Apr 30 2015, 18:13)  just checked random items. full old set - 33% parry, 36% resist full new set - 22% parry, 66% resist
in my current 2old/3new - 26 parry/62 resist. none great old phase in auctions in last year, so if you want more damage - new phase only choice. +-5% parry not a big deal if you can do a glass cannon.
*scratces head* that's also true.
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