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the domino strike isn't proc-ing that much eventough it said 50%

Your accuracy please.
Domino strike won't proc if your attack missed or primary target evades/parries your attack.

This post has been edited by Dead-ed: Apr 27 2015, 12:00

You guys already talk in M denomination, I'm still struggling in a few K (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

also, I just happen to use 1H + light armor to this point,
I clearly know that 2H+light armor or 1H+Heavy armor is better but I was just "whatever, it works so far."
until I found that I'm struggling with my damage output now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

So, I'm thinking about switching to 2H now, happens to have an (I think nice) Exquisite Katana, and I think changing just the weapon is more cost efficient thant replacing all armors.
Problem is the proficiency (it's in a single digit while my 1h is 80-ish)

Tried it, the damage is clearly higher but not that far, great cleave is strong but only deal about half of vital strike (I know it's in a different tier), the domino strike isn't proc-ing that much eventough it said 50%, a bit more struggling without shadow veil on.

So, should I just switch to 2H and start grinding the proficiency now or stay with 1H but look for better weapon - or maybe look for some cheap shades?

for reference here is my 1H, the shield, and the katana I have.

And my puny light helmet body hand leg feet.

If you are going 1h/block and find that you are having trouble staying alive, try switching out rapier for a club:
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=28cfd8ce4c

try to find one that is 'slaughter', I had to get one of the nimble to stay alive at earlier levels and I haven't gotten around to renewing this one yet. It's just as good as rapier, but with stun you'll spend more time killing monsters while staying alive somewhat more easily.

2h starts getting pretty bad around your level. Monsters will start having much higher PL, and you'll need 1h for the defense. If I were you I'd stick with 1h + light for now, and then switching to 1h + heavy after you get Spirit Shield at 200. (Switching earlier so you can use one or two Power Slaughter for more damage is doable, some recommend it, but you'll get one-shotted very easily by sprites and celestials due to lack of resist).

Shortsword is not good - if you like the parry, use a rapier instead, for Penetrated Armor (much more effective than the slashing effect of Bleeding Wound), or if a player wants more plain damage and oneshots or twoshots everything, use an axe or a club. Past 150 or so, rapier is essential for fighting monsters that take more than 3 or so hits to kill.

For more damage, you could add a few Shade armor, though you'll have less defense. (An easy way for you to get a lot more defense now would be to get a high block force shield, or if you're cheap, a buckler of barrier).

If I were you, I'd mostly save your money until you can get an Emax block force shield (25k+), and then a rapier (prefixed, of Slaughter), and keep playing 1h + light until 200, at which point you can look for Plate of Protection or Power Slaughter heavy armor to replace your light armor with.

Oh well... right after I got my fun one shotting 3 monsters when domino strike activated with spirit stance, eventough just in normal mode.

So... replacing this weapon, with this (I use the former due to extra dark strike damage) and start looking for better shield and heavy armor set for now?

Your accuracy please.
Domino strike won't proc if your attack missed or primary target evades/parries your attack.

it's 124.2%
was 136.3% when using 1H
I would complain about missing too much instead of the domino strike didn't proc if the problem was my attack couldn't connect.
But, to be safe let me ask it anyway, is it too low?

If you are going 1h/block and find that you are having trouble staying alive, try switching out rapier for a club:
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=28cfd8ce4c

try to find one that is 'slaughter', I had to get one of the nimble to stay alive at earlier levels and I haven't gotten around to renewing this one yet. It's just as good as rapier, but with stun you'll spend more time killing monsters while staying alive somewhat more easily.

I'm having no problem with staying alive using this set earlier - well at least for battletoads random encounter, the problem is I think I need more damage since it's taking my full buff counters to finish the first and second arena in battletoads/iwbth (that's ~50 turns for 5-7 level). hence I try to switch to 2h for more damage output.

Penetrated Armor: 13% chance - 5 turns <== Very low % on that rapier, I'll send you one i have spare which I would otherwise have shopped.
Also have you considered going heavy with power/slaughter set for more damage?

This post has been edited by trutta: Apr 27 2015, 12:42

I could be wrong, but I don't think kite shields are considered desirable for any class.

There are a few godly kite shields around that are better than most force shields but they are probably the exception and rare.

Penetrated Armor: 13% chance - 5 turns <== Very low % on that rapier, I'll send you one i have spare which I would otherwise have shopped.
Also have you considered going heavy with power/slaughter set for more damage?

I did, my option was either changing the weapon or the set armor. was thinking that switching to 2h is more efficient than replacing all armor, but as Superlatanium say 2h is getting bad and somebody before said that 2h is technically the worst in this patch or such, so yeah... Now I'm thinking about sticking to 1h-light for now while collecting the heavy set.

thanks for the rapier anyway (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

This post has been edited by Fudo Masamune: Apr 27 2015, 12:59

Oh well... right after I got my fun one shotting 3 monsters when domino strike activated with spirit stance, eventough just in normal mode.

So... replacing this weapon, with this (I use the former due to extra dark strike damage) and start looking for better shield and heavy armor set for now?
it's 124.2%
was 136.3% when using 1H
I would complain about missing too much instead of the domino strike didn't proc if the problem was my attack couldn't connect.
But, to be safe let me ask it anyway, is it too low?
I'm having no problem with staying alive using this set earlier - well at least for battletoads random encounter, the problem is I think I need more damage since it's taking my full buff counters to finish the first and second arena in battletoads/iwbth (that's ~50 turns for 5-7 level). hence I try to switch to 2h for more damage output.

100% accuracy is needet for anti-miss, 200% for anti-evade. If you can tolerate 200c/hour, you might want to try voidseeker shard, it gives 50% bonus accuracy when active. Stunned mobs can't evade & parry, that's why a mace is more recommended.

If you use 1h, overwhelming strike gives boost to accuracy & anti-parry yada yada.

I did, my option was either changing the weapon or the set armor. was thinking that switching to 2h is more efficient than replacing all armor, but as Superlatanium say 2h is getting bad and somebody before said that 2h is technically the worst in this patch or such, so yeah... Now I'm thinking about sticking to 1h-light for now while collecting the heavy set.

thanks for the rapier anyway (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Your welcome, was mostly just collecting dust anyways. 2-handed isn't all bad, I sometimes use it when I want to farm a bunch of arenas on normal, it's just that compared to 1-handed it's slightly meh, and i noticed the same with dual-wielding. I found that there is no going back once I got enough prof for getting 2 counters per round, it's much better for keeping overcharge alive.

This post has been edited by trutta: Apr 27 2015, 13:13

I think you are richer than me.
I cannot even used up my daily stamina.

FYI, my credits balance is <2m ATM.

how did my daily 50k profit can be richer than you (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

not including repair cost (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

Peerless gear doesn't really exist. It's all just something Tenboro and the Catgirls thought up of to troll everyone else with. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

I don't think I will get one peerless drop this year (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

This post has been edited by nobody_xxx: Apr 27 2015, 13:13

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2H mace with leather of protection at your level should still be viable. if youo want to try 1H, either go for shortsowrd of slaughter or rapier of slaughter - iirc you shouldn't need PA so much yet

Peerless gear doesn't really exist. It's all just something Tenboro and the Catgirls thought up of to troll everyone else with. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

i guess you aren't so wrong afterall (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

There are a few godly kite shields around that are better than most force shields but they are probably the exception and rare.

yup. probably old, high-quality mithril kite shields of the barrier. iirc they had the same block chance as force shields

2H mace with leather of protection at your level should still be viable. if youo want to try 1H, either go for shortsowrd of slaughter or rapier of slaughter - iirc you shouldn't need PA so much yet
i guess you aren't so wrong afterall (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
yup. probably old, high-quality mithril kite shields of the barrier. iirc they had the same block chance as force shields

that quite hard to find (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

maybe we need to stole it from esheep legendary collections (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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Penetrated Armor: 13% chance - 5 turns <== Very low % on that rapier, I'll send you one i have spare which I would otherwise have shopped.
Also have you considered going heavy with power/slaughter set for more damage?

proc chance and duration doesn't matter, when you have ~50% crit chance it will just stack really fast.

proc chance and duration doesn't matter, when you have ~50% crit chance it will just stack really fast.

Ah yes, mine is at 25.2% with fairly low block (34%) so it's still abit of touch and go now and then, sleep and slow along with stun ftw though.

You guys already talk in M denomination, I'm still struggling in a few K (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

After getting a full set from FreeSHop, the next piece of upgrade is already few hundred K. Of course people here normally talk in M range.

After getting a full set from FreeSHop, the next piece of upgrade is already few hundred K. Of course people here normally talk in M range.

I'm still like talking in K range , colman (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

I'm still like talking in K range , colman (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

Your weapon alone worth 10m+ (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
Maybe 20m+.

This post has been edited by Colman: Apr 27 2015, 15:40

nope. i don't have the funds nor the patience. i will stay as a melee for a while, then i guess i'll give up or something similar

Aww, that'd be a shame. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

as for light users, well - i guess swift really is useful. do someone own a lv10 swift strike DW build to check the gain in attack speed? judging from my build and light spped lv1 ability it seems less or more additive gain, but waiting confirmations

Speaking of which, anyone ever tried the Dual Swiftness Waki combo (With SS Lv.10)? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

I'm always lurking, just been playing too much dota 2.

I tried out Smite a few days ago. Was vastly disappointed.

Fatality is just not good enough, for example if you kill a mob in 4 hits, then you have 5 butcher and 4 Fatality, more often than not you will still need 4 hits to kill the mob. But Overpower can "guarantee" you to kill the mobs in 4 hits. It is very noticeable.

That depends on the player's taste. My logic is simple: DW's speciality is being able to spam Crits. So why not go for more Crit Damage Bonus?

I was checking something like that. On high diff they can easy hit even 2 times per turn. Mostly not. Some has closer to 1.1x and some is quite easy 1.8x, but the main point is huge amount of attacks. I can counter only 3 times. 6 mobs is near 9 attacks, so with my 55.2+44.6 block/parry its 56.4% chance to counter. I need average only 5.3 attacks per turn for full use of counter potency. Definitely higher chance is better for few mobs, but at the same time its very-very safe spot and difference is quite small. I mean mob is mostly always in stun, so it should be without it. After that i should get with my faster style in gap between attacks and also use my chance on other side. Only after that i ll get near 1/2 of my ordinary attack. Its definitely gonna be sometimes and damage ll be higher, but i prefer much better defense against full wave. Sometimes i wont get small attacks, sometimes could escape mp/sp attacks, because mob is doing it longer. And its btw in some way is also damage, because less cures - faster run.

You have a point.

I've dumped my fair share of Exquisite Ethereal Rapiers of Slaughter to the Bazaar. I don't really look at gear unless it's legendary or magnificent and rare. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Even something like "Exquisite Savage Power Armor of Slaughter"? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Grapes are Sour

fixed. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

There are a few godly kite shields around that are better than most force shields but they are probably the exception and rare.

A few Peerless Kite shield and a bunch of obsolete Kite Shield of Barrier. Those are very very few in numbers.

maybe we need to stole it from esheep legendary collections (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

His collections are really something. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif)

You guys already talk in M denomination, I'm still struggling in a few K (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

I'm still like talking in K range , colman (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

worry not, you aren't the only ones (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Aww, that'd be a shame. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

well, life goes on. you can't play forever, i guess...

Speaking of which, anyone ever tried the Dual Swiftness Waki combo (With SS Lv.10)? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

iirc there was a user who used to play with double daggers and had a shitton of turns. or something similar (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

That depends on the player's taste. My logic is simple: DW's speciality is being able to spam Crits. So why not go for more Crit Damage Bonus?

same here. my crit-oriented DW set does something like 43.6% crit chance / +75 % damage (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool2.gif)

Even something like "Exquisite Savage Power Armor of Slaughter"? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

please tell me should you find it garbage, i'll take the weight of disposing it. even for free (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

well, life goes on. you can't play forever, i guess...

Then I guess we need to grab gold stars before retiring.

iirc there was a user who used to play with double daggers and had a shitton of turns. or something similar (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Dagger of swiftness? Did they used to give the same attack speed as Waki of swiftness gives now? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

same here. my crit-oriented DW set does something like 43.6% crit chance / +75 % damage (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool2.gif)

Full Shadowdancer build?

please tell me should you find it garbage, i'll take the weight of disposing it. even for free (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

I don't share the same policy as n125. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

This post has been edited by tetron: Apr 27 2015, 16:41

BTW, how good is "Defend" for mages? Lately I'm noticing that the monsters have suddenly become a lot stronger once again. So I'm thinking of including "Defend" in my strategy. Is it useful for mages, seeing how mages don't have enough Overchange? I mean, is it any good without enough OC?

This post has been edited by tetron: Apr 27 2015, 16:41