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Yeah, me too I usually binge a game then stop playing for a while the binge again. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
I have the equipment just too lazy/don't have the time to train my proficiency/too lazy to setting up spellspam.

Oh, you're still alive? How surprising. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

We all know you have the equipments. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

Proficiency doesn't matter. It will catch up (Except for you know what). And Spellspam is gold! But yes, if you've 4 T/S, then you may not wish to Mage instead of 1H. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Rapiers are so annoying to iw, you need to dodge all the OP and swiftstrike. Basically a 5/4 4/5 iw.

*ahem* Swift Strike on a Rapier is the best potency for DW (Rapier/Waki combo). (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

I just started and don't have any stocks on materials at all...
so.. salvaging the equip that gives me mid-grades materials for my main equip and selling the rest is an ok idea, right?

At your level I wouldn't worry about forging. You aren't likely to have any gear worth upgrading yet and the credits you get from selling will be more useful right now.

This post has been edited by Dammon: Apr 26 2015, 18:57

*ahem* Swift Strike on a Rapier is the best potency for DW (Rapier/Waki combo). (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

How is this the best? At least it doesn't not increase damage per turn?
btw if it is (Rapier/Waki combo) I will just go for 5 OP and whatever.

At your level I wouldn't worry about forging. You aren't likely to have any gear worth upgrading yet and the credits you get from selling will be more useful right now.

oh, ok then, thank you (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

hellooooooo everybody..

i have one question... about monster lab... a monster can't get multiple gift?

i must leave ( go country where there's no internet or very low...) so i won't connect and which to know if monster can accumulate gift ... if not maybe find someone can connect just to feed monster and get gift (and maybe run training)... can't ask gf (we work together so leave together)

thanks

hellooooooo everybody..

i have one question... about monster lab... a monster can't get multiple gift?

i must leave ( go country where there's no internet or very low...) so i won't connect and which to know if monster can accumulate gift ... if not maybe find someone can connect just to feed monster and get gift (and maybe run training)... can't ask gf (we work together so leave together)

thanks

Monsters can accumulate 3 gifts (+ doubled gifts), that's it. So no, you won't be able to get hundreds of gifts when you come back if you leave for months.

some math expert said that HTTP spend around 300~400m to max kodou yuki in the past (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
( when crystal pack still around 100k )
Kinda forget since it been long time (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

CMIIW (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Not true.

He maxed it on a fluke. After a certain patch, Tenboro adjusted the formulas for crystal cost but lowered them far too much. You would have to find the right patch thread and dig through it, but it was still something like 1M crystals to max each stat. And he got them from grinding, not paying. It only stayed this way for a number of hours, but HTTP had the amount stockpiled to max his monster. Shortly after, the formula was adjusted to what it is now (it was even higher originally.)

I still believe it was done intentionally to piss off Frith/TheTornPrince (the owner of Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen 501st, who has been struggling to max characters named Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen since the Monster Lab was created. The short story is he was a bit unstable and people enjoyed screwing with him, including Tenboro. 501st is actually his second attempt, and I still own the original (he had a break down and had tenboro give away all of his monsters.)

Not true.

He maxed it on a fluke. After a certain patch, Tenboro adjusted the formulas for crystal cost but lowered them far too much. You would have to find the right patch thread and dig through it, but it was still something like 1M crystals to max each stat. And he got them from grinding, not paying. It only stayed this way for a number of hours, but HTTP had the amount stockpiled to max his monster. Shortly after, the formula was adjusted to what it is now (it was even higher originally.)

I still believe it was done intentionally to piss off Frith/TheTornPrince (the owner of Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen 501st, who has been struggling to max characters named Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen since the Monster Lab was created. The short story is he was a bit unstable and people enjoyed screwing with him, including Tenboro. 501st is actually his second attempt, and I still own the original (he had a break down and had tenboro give away all of his monsters.)

Perhaps http//308 is multi of 10B (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

3 gift ...maybe not enough for the first two weeks... (after i'll be in capital city where i can connect ...)

and in two weeks do monster morale/food will be on lowest level?


and a weird question...do we can play HV via teamviewer?

This post has been edited by sam le champion: Apr 26 2015, 20:45

Swift isnt very bad. With full heavy set i still have 7.4% attack speed, 5.5% evade. With shards its 10.2% attack speed with 16.3% evade. So, i dont know rly about how strong this effect in action speed, but with direct full effect its something like 11 attacks in 10 range.

How is this the best? At least it doesn't not increase damage per turn?
btw if it is (Rapier/Waki combo) I will just go for 5 OP and whatever.

Attack Speed is for Defense and Mana Saving. It makes the gameplay more smooth and easy. I prefer it because it drastically reduces the number of Cure I have to use. For a DW (With Light Armor), the best weapon potency combo is: Swift Strike lv.10 + Fatality Lv.8 (or vice versa)

Not true.

He maxed it on a fluke. After a certain patch, Tenboro adjusted the formulas for crystal cost but lowered them far too much. You would have to find the right patch thread and dig through it, but it was still something like 1M crystals to max each stat. And he got them from grinding, not paying. It only stayed this way for a number of hours, but HTTP had the amount stockpiled to max his monster. Shortly after, the formula was adjusted to what it is now (it was even higher originally.)

I still believe it was done intentionally to piss off Frith/TheTornPrince (the owner of Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen 501st, who has been struggling to max characters named Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen since the Monster Lab was created. The short story is he was a bit unstable and people enjoyed screwing with him, including Tenboro. 501st is actually his second attempt, and I still own the original (he had a break down and had tenboro give away all of his monsters.)

The luckly breaks people sometimes get...

Perhaps http//308 is multi of 10B (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

I just died laughing! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Swift isnt very bad. With full heavy set i still have 7.4% attack speed, 5.5% evade. With shards its 10.2% attack speed with 16.3% evade. So, i dont know rly about how strong this effect in action speed, but with direct full effect its something like 11 attacks in 10 range.

Err...Swift Strike is not good for Heavy Armor. Since it lets you attack faster and kill monsters before they can hit you, 1H actually looses the chance to "Counter" if used with Swift Strike.

Err...Swift Strike is not good for Heavy Armor. Since it lets you attack faster and kill monsters before they can hit you, 1H actually looses the chance to "Counter" if used with Swift Strike.

Faster clear time versus more safety. It's mostly different for each individual case: higher leveled and well geared players can consider dropping swift strike and upping the burding, but otherwise SS and low burden aren't horrible especially on higher difficulties.

Send her to my address then. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

i never said i GTFOed her (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

And I NEVER GET BORED OF E-HENTAI! Hentaiverse yes, that I get bored of sometimes (Happens from time to time).

we're on the same boat then (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

My advise: Become a Mage.

nope. i don't have the funds nor the patience. i will stay as a melee for a while, then i guess i'll give up or something similar

Yeah, me too I usually binge a game then stop playing for a while the binge again. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
I have the equipment just too lazy/don't have the time to train my proficiency/too lazy to setting up spellspam.

uhu. well, your wind mage set seems interesting enough to be loaned, should i become a mage. just saying (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)
btw, glad to see you're doing well (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

And it can't get faster because of where in the world I live (West Africa).
Anyway, whining aside, I was IW'ing my secondary rapier, got Butcher 2+ Fatality 2, and then this happened.

Rapiers are so annoying to iw, you need to dodge all the OP and swiftstrike. Basically a 5/4 4/5 iw.

my condolences, i know that feeling (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
however yeh, i'd say that butcher/fatality for a rapier are gold, and swift is silver but only if you're playing as a shade user. even though 4/4 or 5/3 is still acceptable...

Attack Speed is for Defense and Mana Saving. It makes the gameplay more smooth and easy. I prefer it because it drastically reduces the number of Cure I have to use. For a DW (With Light Armor), the best weapon potency combo is: Swift Strike lv.10 + Fatality Lv.8 (or vice versa)
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Err...Swift Strike is not good for Heavy Armor. Since it lets you attack faster and kill monsters before they can hit you, 1H actually looses the chance to "Counter" if used with Swift Strike.

cool your engines. overpower is obviously not good for 1H because overwhelming strikes already does that, and much better
swift isn't good for 1H as well, but mostly because all attack speed bonuses (IW included) are multiplicative & they're eaten away by BUR - that is, unless you have less than 40 BUR (which cannot be earned even with all 0% BUR mithril armors), thus it's room wasted for other potencies. at that point i'd prefer overpower because overwhelming strikes isn't always on.
this will spare only butcher and fatality (for 1H), and still i think fatality should be preferred because it can't be forged

as for light users, well - i guess swift really is useful. do someone own a lv10 swift strike DW build to check the gain in attack speed? judging from my build and light spped lv1 ability it seems less or more additive gain, but waiting confirmations

This post has been edited by Scremaz: Apr 27 2015, 00:22

swift isn't good for 1H as well, but mostly because all attack speed bonuses (IW included) are multiplicative & they're eaten away by BUR - that is, unless you have less than 40 BUR (which cannot be earned even with all 0% BUR mithril armors), thus it's room wasted for other potencies. at that point i'd prefer overpower because overwhelming strikes isn't always on.
this will spare only butcher and fatality (for 1H), and still i think fatality should be preferred because it can't be forged

I think I remember someone saying a while ago that swift is just as good if you featherweight everything, in addition to being safer. So, though shards would get a bit costly over time, maybe someone playing deep GF would like it.

I think I remember someone saying a while ago that swift is just as good if you featherweight everything, in addition to being safer. So, though shards would get a bit costly over time, maybe someone playing deep GF would like it.

at that point you'll have other problems: a certain degree of BUR is required to lower your evade (which may reduce the number of counter-stuns), and feathering your armors will remove BUT afaik, making you not-so-different than 1H+shade, only with more firepower

I actually enjoyed swift strike on rapier for when I go IW against 9-10 mobs, killing without much cure is more preferable than easier OC charge. I even need shadow veil sometimes. Just hit numpad and not anything else!

At worst, OC stays the same. If I need OC to be filled, just turn off the spirit stance after only 3-4 mobs left on the round.

Is IW worth doing at my level?

Is IW worth doing at my level?

I suppose it might be if you want to grind experience after you've completed all of your arenas for the day. I wouldn't recommend doing IW just for the sake of unlocking potencies on your equipment, however.

Oh, you're still alive? How surprising. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

We all know you have the equipments. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

Proficiency doesn't matter. It will catch up (Except for you know what). And Spellspam is gold! But yes, if you've 4 T/S, then you may not wish to Mage instead of 1H. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

I'm always lurking, just been playing too much dota 2.

Still too lazy to set up spell spam.

Can't even remember my T/S.

Is IW worth doing at my level?

The problem is the time and shards required. If you're aiming for specific potencies, which you probably should, such as "at least Jug 2", you might expect to spend 70k on shards, more if you're unlucky. The value of the time + stamina + repair costs is pretty high as well, 200k+. So, to IW, the equipment piece should be at least somewhat worthwhile, hopefully 500k+, for IW to be worth doing on it.

Also, you need to be able to play comfortably on IWBTH, otherwise it will take ages, and you'd be better off getting someone else to IW it for you. This usually restricts IW to be an efficient choice only for level ~250+ players.