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post Apr 26 2015, 07:12
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QUOTE(tututz @ Apr 26 2015, 06:50) *

I just buy a few tickets every day (10 or 20) on each. Sometimes RNG will favor you, even with blood tokens.

Ever won a lotto this way?
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post Apr 26 2015, 07:13
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QUOTE(tututz @ Apr 26 2015, 11:50) *

I just buy a few tickets every day (10 or 20) on each. Sometimes RNG will favor you, even with blood tokens.

you can get 2nd-5th prize with 10 tickets if you are lucky enough (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
( like chosen uno in the past ) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post Apr 26 2015, 07:17
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Apr 25 2015, 22:13) *

you can get 2nd-5th prize with 10 tickets if you are lucky enough (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
( like chosen uno in the past ) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


People have won the 1st prize with only one ticket before.
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post Apr 26 2015, 07:23
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QUOTE(Dammon @ Apr 26 2015, 12:17) *

People have won the 1st prize with only one ticket before.

I'm retired from HV at that time , so I don't know (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

I just remember uno get 2nd or 3rd prize with 10 tickets (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Apr 26 2015, 08:23
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QUOTE(n125 @ Apr 26 2015, 08:02) *

You lose the moment you begin to think that you can win the lottery.

Tenboro is a genius. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

QUOTE(malkatmp @ Apr 26 2015, 08:12) *

the only way to win the lottery is by not playing. i win millions of GP every time. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Nice strategy. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

QUOTE(Dammon @ Apr 26 2015, 10:47) *

People have won the 1st prize with only one ticket before.

Happened to me, twice! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Apr 26 2015, 08:31
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Just wonder how many "new" players are still there.
Hmm...


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post Apr 26 2015, 08:48
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QUOTE(MidNightPass @ Apr 26 2015, 12:01) *

Just wonder how many "new" players are still there.
Hmm...

Define "new" players.
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post Apr 26 2015, 09:59
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Apr 26 2015, 10:14) *

As someone said before recently in this thread, the lotteries are more of a way for the rich to show off than anything else. If you look at the past lotteries you'll see that the equipment is never used 98% of the time (and is even sometimes just salvaged).

The value of the prizes is much lower than the value of the GP spent.


I got http://hentaiverse.org/?s=Bazaar&ss=lt&lottery=418 for 500 tickets, and I'm using it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

Anyway, if the equipment is not used, isn't it good for the lotteries to exist as a credit sink? Otherwise those credits would inflate the price of not-great-just-good equipment at auctions.
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post Apr 26 2015, 10:08
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Gp sink.
The credits just change ownership.
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post Apr 26 2015, 12:14
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QUOTE(tututz @ Apr 26 2015, 06:50) *

I just buy a few tickets every day (10 or 20) on each. Sometimes RNG will favor you, even with blood tokens.

same here. never won tokens though, maybe a couple of artifacts...

QUOTE(TheRapture @ Apr 26 2015, 07:12) *

Ever won a lotto this way?

Peerless Helmet for 10 or 20 tickets, can't remember. i don't use it, but at least i own a peerless (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool2.gif)

QUOTE(mozilla browser @ Apr 26 2015, 09:59) *

I got http://hentaiverse.org/?s=Bazaar&ss=lt&lottery=418 for 500 tickets, and I'm using it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

yes, you use it. it means an useful item went to a person who needed it, and for a reasonable price afterall.
but if you take a look to all the major winners, you will find that everyone of them should own a couple of sets of everything by now, only by lotteries (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Apr 26 2015, 13:10
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QUOTE(mozilla browser @ Apr 26 2015, 13:29) *

I got http://hentaiverse.org/?s=Bazaar&ss=lt&lottery=418 for 500 tickets, and I'm using it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

Ethereal Staff... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

QUOTE(Scremaz @ Apr 26 2015, 15:44) *

same here. never won tokens though, maybe a couple of artifacts...

I never won Token or Artifacts.

QUOTE(Scremaz @ Apr 26 2015, 15:44) *

Only if is wasn't Account Bound... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

QUOTE(Scremaz @ Apr 26 2015, 15:44) *

person who needed it

LMAO (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Apr 26 2015, 13:17
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QUOTE(tetron @ Apr 26 2015, 13:10) *

Ethereal Staff... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

oh, well, you need to make do with what you have (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
but seriously, at this point i'd IW10 it to go for Dark strike...

QUOTE(tetron @ Apr 26 2015, 13:10) *

I never won Token or Artifacts.

but you won first price twice, you said (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

QUOTE(tetron @ Apr 26 2015, 13:10) *

Only if is wasn't Account Bound... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

yup, it would have been at least a million in my pockets only for that prefix (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

QUOTE(tetron @ Apr 26 2015, 13:10) *

LMAO (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

i don't get it. am i wrong here? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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post Apr 26 2015, 13:55
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Apr 26 2015, 16:47) *

oh, well, you need to make do with what you have (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Well, in HV, even crappy gears can hold their own grounds in the highest difficulty pretty well.

QUOTE(Scremaz @ Apr 26 2015, 16:47) *

but seriously, at this point i'd IW10 it to go for Dark strike...

On a Staff? You Serious? Who'd risk Eco Lv.5 Just for a uncertain Strike? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

QUOTE(Scremaz @ Apr 26 2015, 16:47) *

but you won first price twice, you said (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Yep. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool2.gif)

QUOTE(Scremaz @ Apr 26 2015, 16:47) *

yup, it would have been at least a million in my pockets only for that prefix (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Don't ignore the Suffix. If it's Stoneskin... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

QUOTE(Scremaz @ Apr 26 2015, 16:47) *

i don't get it. am i wrong here? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Except for those Peerless gears in the lottery, you can't convince me that "they" actually "need" those gears so regularly.
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post Apr 26 2015, 14:16
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QUOTE(tetron @ Apr 26 2015, 13:55) *

Well, in HV, even crappy gears can hold their own grounds in the highest difficulty pretty well.

because their crappiness is somehow mitigated by multiplicative addition: it's for that reason that one outstanding piece of armor among crappy set (or vice versa) don't do a very big damage, it's more important to close the set to go for abilities at that point

QUOTE(tetron @ Apr 26 2015, 13:55) *

On a Staff? You Serious? Who'd risk Eco Lv.5 Just for a uncertain Strike? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

slightly correction: it's eco4 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
and what's the big point in keeping lv9? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

QUOTE(tetron @ Apr 26 2015, 13:55) *

Don't ignore the Suffix. If it's Stoneskin... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

slightly correction part 2: it's dampening (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

QUOTE(tetron @ Apr 26 2015, 13:55) *

Except for those Peerless gears in the lottery, you can't convince me that "they" actually "need" those gears so regularly.

no, obviously they don't need them. do you need(ed) so many battlecasters? do i need so many oldies? it's just another type of collection afterall, with the only difference that if i take a flimsy club of balance out of the market nobody will even realize it, while a legendary ethereal mace of slaughter (just saying) may have been actually used by someone (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Apr 26 2015, 14:23
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So for those out there who do daily arena clears for credits, what difficulty do you stick to? I tried DwD on Hell and it was pretty tedious, or is it a simple matter or my equipment not being good and that PFUDOR can be quick too?
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post Apr 26 2015, 14:48
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QUOTE(empj83 @ Apr 26 2015, 14:23) *

So for those out there who do daily arena clears for credits, what difficulty do you stick to? I tried DwD on Hell and it was pretty tedious, or is it a simple matter or my equipment not being good and that PFUDOR can be quick too?

it depends. which playstyle? eventually, OFC user or not? mind to post your gears?

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post Apr 26 2015, 14:59
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Low diff --> fast solid amount. Still get many arti, tokens, gears and so on.
High diff --> not so fast, but higher credits amount and better gear loot. F.e., got 3 magnificent today. Its mostly bad drop, but sometimes its something useful (at least 0,1-1m credits).

So if you dont play much than low diff is ok, because its the best credits/time ratio. I play arenas always on pf, because need exp and dont wanna spend much stamina for average income.
UPD. Probably its time to train adept learner (only have 150/300).

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post Apr 26 2015, 15:09
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Apr 26 2015, 14:48) *

it depends. which playstyle? eventually, OFC user or not? mind to post your gears?


The 1H build I was using to do DwD on Hell was

Rapier
Shield
Helmet
Body
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post Apr 26 2015, 15:18
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QUOTE(empj83 @ Apr 26 2015, 20:09) *

The 1H build I was using to do DwD on Hell was

Rapier
Shield
Helmet
Body
Hands
Legs
Feet

your damage is the problem (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I think you should to change into shade of fleet or SD (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

better to use rapier of slaughter , nimble just good for DW set (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


DwD still slow with melee , unless you have very high damage output + high turn/s (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

I need nearly 80 minutes to clear PFU DwD , maybe I will get better clearing time if I change into full slaughter (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

but main problem is I'm poor (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

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post Apr 26 2015, 15:18
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Apr 26 2015, 17:46) *

because their crappiness is somehow mitigated by multiplicative addition: it's for that reason that one outstanding piece of armor among crappy set (or vice versa) don't do a very big damage, it's more important to close the set to go for abilities at that point

Yep. It's just a matter of optimization. But still, "depression" is a inbuilt part of HV. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

QUOTE(Scremaz @ Apr 26 2015, 17:46) *

what's the big point in keeping lv9? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

May be because Tanboro said that he has (or had) plans for a Lv.10 potency for Mages? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

QUOTE(Scremaz @ Apr 26 2015, 17:46) *

no, obviously they don't need them. do you need(ed) so many battlecasters? do i need so many oldies? it's just another type of collection afterall, with the only difference that if i take a flimsy club of balance out of the market nobody will even realize it, while a legendary ethereal mace of slaughter (just saying) may have been actually used by someone (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

"Necessity" and "Hobby" are two totally different stories. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

QUOTE(empj83 @ Apr 26 2015, 17:53) *

So for those out there who do daily arena clears for credits, what difficulty do you stick to? I tried DwD on Hell and it was pretty tedious, or is it a simple matter or my equipment not being good and that PFUDOR can be quick too?

I do:

The last three Arenas: in Normal Difficulty for Tokens (Those Arenas are guaranteed to give you a token upon clearing) and trophies.

All the other Arenas: in PFUDOR/IWBTH. Usally PFUDOR for the best quality modifier (and EXP of course). IWBTH when I don't have much time to spend in HV.

I play as Elec Mage.

QUOTE(empj83 @ Apr 26 2015, 18:39) *

The 1H build I was using to do DwD on Hell was

Rapier
Shield
Helmet
Body
Hands
Legs
Feet

Ewww! You are using one of the "Safest but Slowest" build in HV!
You need to switch to at least Full-Shade for some firepower.
Also, you need to use either Buckler or Force Shield. Kite Shield is just not good enough.
And last but not the least, your weapon needs to be IWed to Lv.10 for a significant boost in clearing speed.
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