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post Apr 8 2015, 16:59
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Apr 8 2015, 22:53) *

thanks for your offer , colman (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

but I will stick with my current style until I have enough funds to change into mages (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
only have 30% motivation to grinding now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

You are 1H power now?
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post Apr 8 2015, 17:06
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QUOTE(Colman @ Apr 8 2015, 21:59) *

You are 1H power now?

yes (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I don't think I will be back to use my first style when playing HV (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


grinding a bit to buy full set pony now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
( kinda regret to shrine and sell them in the past (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) )
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post Apr 8 2015, 17:07
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Apr 8 2015, 23:06) *

yes (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I don't think I will be back to use my first style when playing HV (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
grinding a bit to buy full set pony now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
( kinda regret to shrine and sell them in the past (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) )

Only 30k each atm. Much cheaper than before.

What weapon and shield are you using now?
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post Apr 8 2015, 17:10
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QUOTE(Colman @ Apr 8 2015, 22:07) *

Only 30k each atm. Much cheaper than before.

What weapon and shield are you using now?


rapier


shield
poor at the moment so no upgrade for the shield for now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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post Apr 8 2015, 17:13
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Apr 8 2015, 23:10) *

rapier
shield
poor at the moment so no upgrade for the shield for now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

Your weapon is very good, even for DW main-hand.
Any plan to change the shield in near future? I think you can afford a much better shield.

BTW, Masamune should be a sword or katana. No one use Masamune to pierce anus. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

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post Apr 8 2015, 17:14
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Apr 8 2015, 13:56) *

Wouldn't you be better off spending 20m credits and going 1H and clearing hellfest?


1h can clear hellfest with much cheaper set. The reason for mage is speed. Gf has near same drop loot per round (credits/equip/artifacts/scrolls and so on) and expotential crystals. Definitely full clear even on nintendo gives 28k crystals instead 5k for first 300 rounds and its better to do more rounds, but if speed is good enough than some small incoming from equip and so on can just overtake value of crystals.

Its also good for market, because reduce amount of crystals (and also increase demand if you ll buy it) and instead gives you more from bazaar. Atm packs is very cheap and mostly near 60-65k while their bazaar value is 120k.
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post Apr 8 2015, 17:18
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QUOTE(Colman @ Apr 8 2015, 22:13) *

Your weapon is very good, even for DW main-hand.
Any plan to change the shield in near future? I think you can afford a much better shield.

BTW, Masamune should be a sword or katana. No one use Masamune to pierce anus. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

i know about masamune (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

you mean force shield (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

nah , stick with this thing until I have full motivation to grinding (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Apr 8 2015, 17:25
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Apr 9 2015, 01:53) *

thanks for your offer , colman (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

but I will stick with my current style until I have enough funds to change into mages (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
only have 30% motivation to grinding now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)


I just 1H it's easier to afk with it
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post Apr 8 2015, 17:31
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I just 1H it's easier to afk with it

because 1H need more button mash than 2H or mages (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)



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post Apr 8 2015, 18:22
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is it possible for melee to launch ether theft ?

I have tried multiple time using drain, and it seems only launch vital theft.

ether theft mastery is equipped
Ether theft is not viable for melee due to low base mana. Spirit theft, on the other hand, is viable (because base spirit is not low), but only has a chance of being cost-efficient past the level 300 Ripened Soul ability.

Spirit theft is very useful for doing PFUDOR DwD or getting as far in GF as you can, but other than in those rare situations, potions will be enough.
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post Apr 8 2015, 21:41
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Long time no see.

I am shocked to see the hath value has taken a sharp downfall. Guess there is less incentive to run H@H now. :/
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post Apr 8 2015, 22:50
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hi, so i would like to know what range of stats make a weapond decent
for example how much strenght should a weapond have ...
other thing, im using dual wield and leather
and would like to know what kind of weaponds i hsould use. For now im using
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=eeb641ed01
as main hand. and
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=39ee56cd09
as offhand.
i think that they are decent/good, but not sure.
and also what stats should i look for when leveling weaponds?
and when should i use amnesia shards to try and look for different stats
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post Apr 8 2015, 23:20
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hi, so i would like to know what range of stats make a weapond decent
for example how much strenght should a weapond have ...
A few things to consider:
Type - Rapiers have PA, which is very important - it can let you do 2x or more damage to a target after 3 stacks. Neither stun (club) nor slashing weapons have anywhere near this killing power, on enemies with more than a little bit of HP, at least. Nearly anyone playing higher than Hell will be more effective with a rapier. (If 1h, rapier is only weapon. If DW, rapier is either mainhand or offhand, but not both)

Between levels 130 - 200 you may be noticing that monsters are suddenly becoming a whole lot harder than they were from 1-129. Having enough defense to survive becomes an even more important factor now. For that, it's good to switch to 1h, so you can have a shield, vastly increasing defenses and only slightly decreasing damage. 1h is probably the only real effective style between levels 150 and 300. (other styles are possible, they're just not very good in comparison - can't handle anywhere near as high a difficulty)

Attributes which make a weapon good are high ADB (at least "nearly Smax" is a good start), good parry (if weapon can have parry), prefix (essential - extra strike adds 25% damage or something), of Slaughter (essential for mainhand), or if offhand, of Nimble/Balance. Also try for all possible PABs, like Str Dex Agi with none missing - though the actual PAB stats aren't all that important as long as they're there. If mainhand rapier, PA chance should not be too low.

For your current weapons: club has no prefix, so better to find something else. Axe stats are good, but it's an axe, not a club or a rapier. (Club mainhand for DW is popular because the stun helps with defense, useful because DW has no shield to block damage. Slashing weapons aren't that good because Bleeding Wound is near useless...)
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and also what stats should i look for when leveling weaponds?
and when should i use amnesia shards to try and look for different stats
Butcher is always nice, except on offhand weapon. Swift Strike is not good for 1h / heavy style (you might switch to heavy armor in the next 80 levels or so). Overpower is not good for 1h due to Overwhelming Strikes, but is good for all other styles.

I'm not sure what the "ideal" would be, but unless you have a large budget and a great weapon it's probably not worth worrying about since you can settle for "decent".

Until you can IW on IWBTH, it's not worth doing it yourself, since it just takes ages. Better to either put off IWing until later, or to have someone higher do IW for you.
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post Apr 9 2015, 03:51
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QUOTE(1xago @ Apr 9 2015, 04:50) *

hi, so i would like to know what range of stats make a weapond decent
for example how much strenght should a weapond have ...
other thing, im using dual wield and leather
and would like to know what kind of weaponds i hsould use. For now im using
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=eeb641ed01
as main hand. and
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=39ee56cd09
as offhand.
i think that they are decent/good, but not sure.
and also what stats should i look for when leveling weaponds?
and when should i use amnesia shards to try and look for different stats

for light , I think dual club rapier is the best for DW (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Upgrade your leather into shade later on when you have enough money (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Fleet or SD (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Upgrading it will be much more cheaper compare with the past since nearly nobody buy HG leather now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)


DW light make me remember about t_starrk (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Apr 9 2015, 04:03
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Upgrade your leather into shade later on when you have enough money (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Fleet or SD (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
I tried this from levels ~180 to ~280. It didn't go well at all. As soon as I overcame my stubbornness and switched to 1h/power I was able to fight on a difficulty level 2 or 3 steps higher. Given shade's mitigation weaknesses (both piercing and pmi/mmi), I don't think it's a very good idea before level 300 or so, when level scaling starts to provide enough innate tankyness.
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post Apr 9 2015, 05:06
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QUOTE(1xago @ Apr 9 2015, 04:50) *

hi, so i would like to know what range of stats make a weapond decent
for example how much strenght should a weapond have ...
other thing, im using dual wield and leather
and would like to know what kind of weaponds i hsould use. For now im using
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=eeb641ed01
as main hand. and
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=39ee56cd09
as offhand.
i think that they are decent/good, but not sure.
and also what stats should i look for when leveling weaponds?
and when should i use amnesia shards to try and look for different stats

You signature (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Equipment_Ranges

For weapon, people mostly looking for high damage. So the closer the damage (ADB/MDB) to the peak, the more it worth. Same to power armor of slaughter. Of course, having all PABs (primary attribute bonus) is important as well.
People normally look for something like Ex_max+ damage (at least reaching the maximum of exq grade weapon) with all PABs. For melee weapon, prefix like Ethereal and Hollowed are also a bonus.

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post Apr 9 2015, 12:28
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already have 21 pony figurine , why I can't use OFC ???

I cannot find it everywhere (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

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post Apr 9 2015, 12:31
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Apr 9 2015, 12:28) *

already have 21 pony figurine , why I can't use OFC ???

I cannot find it everywhere (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)


change equipment set then back.
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post Apr 9 2015, 12:34
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QUOTE(malkatmp @ Apr 9 2015, 17:31) *

change equipment set then back.

thanks alot , malkatmp (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)

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post Apr 9 2015, 18:25
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Is this one good enough? Or i should think about replacement?
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