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Mar 31 2015, 13:11
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m118w11
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QUOTE(helno @ Mar 31 2015, 12:32)  Will you get a special trophy for each set shrined or is it just a one time off thing?
Last time there was a special trophy for each one shrined, plus a another trophy if you shrined one of each. But this year there is 7 artifacts instead of 6 so it may be different.
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Mar 31 2015, 13:13
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mozilla browser
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Mar 31 2015, 19:00)  Thx. Looks quite easy.
That's 'cos you're a grinder. If it were so easy, nobody would be buying them
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Mar 31 2015, 13:13
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mozilla browser
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double post
This post has been edited by mozilla browser: Mar 31 2015, 13:14
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Mar 31 2015, 13:54
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Kominechan
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Mar 31 2015, 14:19
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QUOTE(Kominechan @ Mar 31 2015, 13:54)  So i'm having difficulty with high level arenas as i'm unable to last all the way as my mana pots and hp pots isn't enough to carry me to victory. I think i'm too squishy? What is the attributes that contributes to defense? And what is the ideal dual wielding combo? Thanks in advance (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) You might want to have a rapier, forgoing double bleeder. I'm not sure if you already facing mobs with better defense, but adding a rapier can go a long way. If you still want to play double bleeder, consider weapon with better parry as offhand; don't miss out DW's parry bonus! You might also want to mix in a shade to push damage a bit. Going full leather is slow although safer. By mixing in shade, you can save pots for latter rounds.
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Mar 31 2015, 16:47
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Superlatanium
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QUOTE(Kominechan @ Mar 31 2015, 11:54)  So i'm having difficulty with high level arenas as i'm unable to last all the way as my mana pots and hp pots isn't enough to carry me to victory. I think i'm too squishy? What is the attributes that contributes to defense? And what is the ideal dual wielding combo? 1h has quite a lot more defense than DW. During the next 50 levels or so, you may find that you're just taking too much damage (since the PL of monsters you fight will be skyrocketing), so if you feel defense is becoming a pretty significant factor, you might try out 1h. For weapon type, Penetrated Armor is king if the monsters you're fighting take ~4 or more hits to kill. With 3 stacks of PA, you'll probably be doing at least double the damage you do with no PA. So, unless you're only playing on Nightmare or something, you'll benefit from a rapier. If you want to use it in mainhand or as 1h, look for a prefixed one (+25%~ damage, Ethereal is even better), of Slaughter (even more potential damage), with high weapon damage (due to random variation) and with decent PA chance and parry. If you want to use it in offhand instead, damage doesn't really matter, so you'd want Nimble or Balance instead of Slaughter. (Rapiers can last a long time. I'm still using the one I bought when I was level ~160) Those who go with offhand rapier usually use a club (prefixed, of slaughter) mainhand for club's high damage and stun (helps with defense). 2 of the 4 armor you posted have no End. That means less max HP and less base HP (Cure heals less). Also, none of the armor has the max number of PABs (max is 4 for leather armor). Look for 4 PAB leather armor of Protection or Deflection (more physical defense). That will let you last significantly longer as well as moderately increasing your damage.
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Mar 31 2015, 18:20
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watisit
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How hard is FSM in ROB? I'm thinking of challenging him on normal (IMG:[ i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/qLTL30b.png) This post has been edited by watisit: Mar 31 2015, 18:21
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Mar 31 2015, 18:34
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QUOTE(watisit @ Mar 31 2015, 12:20)  How hard is FSM in ROB? I'm thinking of challenging him on normal
Should be a breeze. Just keep SOL/SS up and bring a couple SP Pots.
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Mar 31 2015, 18:44
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Superlatanium
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QUOTE(watisit @ Mar 31 2015, 16:20)  .. Also, it looks like you have no Agility bonus from gear. That's going to cut into your evade significantly, which is very important for mage. You also might take an hour or two just to grind Depreciating proficiency. Imperil is a very useful spell for mages against most boss-class monsters. You don't need it, but it'll help you kill the big guys much quicker.
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Mar 31 2015, 18:51
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watisit
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QUOTE(gilf @ Apr 1 2015, 00:34)  Should be a breeze. Just keep SOL/SS up and bring a couple SP Pots.
Killed. Thanks. It only proced spark once. Should've carried more mana pots instead of spirit pots. I used up 4 greater mana pots. Just to check, should I've stuck with my elemental magics instead of using holy/dark (which have very very low proficiency)? And trio and the tree, does the tree affect all 9 other bosses? QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Apr 1 2015, 00:44)  Also, it looks like you have no Agility bonus from gear. That's going to cut into your evade significantly, which is very important for mage.
You also might take an hour or two just to grind Depreciating proficiency. Imperil is a very useful spell for mages against most boss-class monsters. You don't need it, but it'll help you kill the big guys much quicker.
Shouldn't I be getting more Int/Wis instead of Agi? And since every 3 Agi equates to around 0.1% evade, is it really worth is to trade the INT/WIS for at most 4% evade? This is assuming all my armor has +20 AGI average each This post has been edited by watisit: Mar 31 2015, 19:03
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Mar 31 2015, 19:07
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Superlatanium
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QUOTE(watisit @ Mar 31 2015, 16:51)  Killed. Thanks. It only proced spark once. Should've carried more mana pots instead of spirit pots. I used up 4 greater mana pots.
Just to check, should I've stuck with my elemental magics instead of using holy/dark (which have very very low proficiency)?
And trio and the tree, does the tree affect all 9 other bosses? Shouldn't I be getting more Int/Wis instead of Agi?
Most monsters have lower resistance to holy/dark than they do to elemental. Before you have access to 0-cooldown Imperil, you probably won't use Imperil all that often, so holy/dark will probably be somewhat more effective. After level 310 and 0-cooldown Imperil, elemental becomes more usable, but holy/dark still remain quite good (especially after 400 when holy/dark get 4-cooldown T3 - elemental has to wait until level 450 for that). Yes, on Triple Trio, the tree can heal everything, not just the sisters. Int/Wis is more useful than Agi, but that doesn't mean that 1 more point of Wis is worth giving up 20 points of Agi (for example). 3 PAB is better than 2 PAB.
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Apr 1 2015, 16:08
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mozilla browser
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QUOTE(mozilla browser @ Mar 29 2015, 16:58)  Recently dropped a Legendary Hallowed Longsword of the Illithid, which has pretty good rolls, but suboptimal weapon type, suffix, prefix (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) does this have any value? Incidentally, what would work well with a 2H weapon such as this? I'm thinking it needs to be leather/shade for survivability. But even with a 0% burden roll, the high burden would do bad things for evade. Due to event, I might as well try item-world on the longsword. What potencies would be good for this? Butcher and Fatality are favourites for 1h-rapier, but how about 2h-longsword? Boulay seemed to suggest that counter-parry would be useful.
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Apr 1 2015, 16:35
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Colman
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QUOTE(mozilla browser @ Apr 1 2015, 22:08)  Due to event, I might as well try item-world on the longsword. What potencies would be good for this?
Butcher and Fatality are favourites for 1h-rapier, but how about 2h-longsword? Boulay seemed to suggest that counter-parry would be useful.
Any reason to waste shards on longsword?
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Apr 1 2015, 16:45
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clarkiest
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QUOTE(Colman @ Apr 1 2015, 16:35)  Any reason to waste shards on longsword?
Umm..., masochism? hehehe, jusk kidding. I actually enjoy bleeder weapons for arenas nightmare and below. I even play niten up to battletoad. But yeah, no point on using amnesia at current patch. You don't need perfect bleeder to play on low difficulty. And at higher difficulty, bleeder is out of question.
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Apr 1 2015, 17:47
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sam le champion
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hello everybody....i come to ask expert well im now lvl 165 so i need to upgrade my euipement or do item world but before i should ,maybe, change some equipement i ve got : exquisite katana/wakizashi and superior power heavy armor what's your point of view?
thanks
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Apr 1 2015, 17:49
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mozilla browser
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QUOTE(Colman @ Apr 1 2015, 22:35)  Any reason to waste shards on longsword?
None. But are all potencies equally good?
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Apr 1 2015, 18:02
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clarkiest
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QUOTE(sam le champion @ Apr 1 2015, 17:47)  hello everybody....i come to ask expert well im now lvl 165 so i need to upgrade my euipement or do item world but before i should ,maybe, change some equipement i ve got : exquisite katana/wakizashi and superior power heavy armor what's your point of view?
thanks
I advice you to save your credit to buy replacement. Forging is not advisable for early-game equipments. Doing item world also not very meaningful if they're easily replaced. However, if you're keen on doing IW, consider these questions, What equipment you wish to gain potency out of? What difficulty you usually play arena at? And what difficulty you wish to play Item World at? Are you heeding what advice page says on wiki regarding stat and ability point distribution? The easiest is to just try it yourself. If you heed the advice, I suppose it's doable for IW-ing exquisite equipment at your usual difficulty or one lower. Just bring enough potions.
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Apr 1 2015, 18:19
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sam le champion
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ok thanks for answer so i can stay on katana/waki and heavy armor but get magnificient or legendary (arena: iwbth/battleloads for the first 4....nintedo/hell till lvl100 and after nightmare but i try higher lvl little by little when i get stronger)
one question : do i have to get "protection,balance or slaughter" for my power heavy?and for my weapon(slaughter is good enough)?
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Apr 1 2015, 18:19
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Superlatanium
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QUOTE(sam le champion @ Apr 1 2015, 15:47)  hello everybody....i come to ask expert well im now lvl 165 so i need to upgrade my euipement or do item world but before i should ,maybe, change some equipement i ve got : exquisite katana/wakizashi and superior power heavy armor what's your point of view?
thanks
Don't item world until you can do it on IWBTH, else it'll only be done inefficiently and will take a whole lot of time. You probably need level 250+ and 1h. Niten / heavy armor is not a good combination. You probably have serious survivability problems. Since the PL of monsters you fight is skyrocketing, you need a good amount of defense to survive on anything but the lower difficulties - and the easiest way to get that is with 1h. (rapier + force shield) Equipment links are much more informative than just equipment names. Though, if you use power armor, use power slaughter (else you're not getting much of an offensive boost, and you might as well use plate of protection instead). QUOTE(sam le champion @ Apr 1 2015, 16:19)  so i can stay on katana/waki and heavy armor but get magnificient or legendary Not if you want to be able to handle high difficulties - you need 1h for that. QUOTE(sam le champion @ Apr 1 2015, 16:19)  one question : do i have to get "protection,balance or slaughter" for my power heavy?and for my weapon(slaughter is good enough)? If you are 1h + heavy, either use Power Slaughter (or Power Balance if you're poor - they're cheaper), or use Plate of Protection. (don't try to use defensive Power) Weapon should probably be a rapier (Penetrated Armor is amazing), prefixed (+25%~ damage), of Slaughter, hopefully with decent PA chance and parry. This post has been edited by Superlatanium: Apr 1 2015, 18:24
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Apr 1 2015, 18:27
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sam le champion
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true it's quite harder now... so im looking for upgrading especially my defense so which quite of equipement with niten is better? or maybe which weapon is better with power heavy equipement? thanks for answer (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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