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post Mar 7 2015, 05:27
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I got one rank of it and have noticed a difference, it's pretty nice. I got tired of not having or even being close to rank 2 spells. Grinding proficiencies with full magic interference gear was not helping me at all. Probably won't buy any more though as 100k seems pricy atm. I'm not looking forward to Depreciative spell grinding as I don't even use it usually. Do people buy ranks in Weaken cd reduction to grind it or something? Every 3 turns is annoying, and the other Depreciative spells are pricy.

Doesn't the price and cost/time of Assimilator seem a bit weird? It's the kind of thing you'd want as early as Adept Learning to get any use out of it really. Seems like it should be similar to AL so people can grab a few ranks of it early.

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post Mar 7 2015, 05:38
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QUOTE(FruitSmoothie @ Mar 6 2015, 20:27) *

I got one rank of it and have noticed a difference, it's pretty nice. I got tired of not having or even being close to rank 2 spells. Grinding proficiencies with full magic interference gear was not helping me at all. Probably won't buy any more though as 100k seems pricy atm. I'm not looking forward to Depreciative spell grinding as I don't even use it usually.

Doesn't the price and cost/time of Assimilator seem a bit weird? It's the kind of thing you'd want as early as Adept Learning to get any use out of it really. Seems like it should be similar to AL so people can grab a few ranks of it early.

assimilator is useless for everyday player but i have the same appreciation as yours. It's useful especially for a style which don't gain proficiency at all.
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post Mar 7 2015, 05:41
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It's reassuring to know that prof will naturally catch up, I just started doing RE in IWBTH last night and have been leveling up every 30mins. I was getting kind of worried that my prof will be too low.
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post Mar 7 2015, 07:52
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QUOTE(CrimsonClown @ Mar 7 2015, 11:41) *

It's reassuring to know that prof will naturally catch up, I just started doing RE in IWBTH last night and have been leveling up every 30mins. I was getting kind of worried that my prof will be too low.

The bonus from proficiency is not significant before level 250 anyway . Btw , once you reach level 350, you can no longer level up by RE alone . So, the expensive prof gain rate training is for multi-style players only .
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post Mar 7 2015, 08:17
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Yeah I've seen how much exp is needed to level up for those higher levels in some of the posted screenshots. Right now I'm earning at least 1m exp per RE, here's the recent one just now with 9 monsters.

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post Mar 7 2015, 08:51
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Eventually you have to become a toplister or Catgirl (of which there are multiple levels) if you want to continue leveling at a good pace.
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post Mar 7 2015, 09:20
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Which requires a bit of donation but some people take credits to donate for you is that right?
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post Mar 7 2015, 09:42
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QUOTE(CrimsonClown @ Mar 7 2015, 09:20) *

Which requires a bit of donation but some people take credits to donate for you is that right?


yes.

iirc, the going rate is 25/12.5/5mil for gold/silver/bronze star.
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post Mar 7 2015, 11:35
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Posting my abilities screenshots and asking for advices and suggestions, thanks as always everyone that's been helping out.

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I haven't been using deprecating spells and since I now have access to Imperil I'm wondering if I should use it. I'm not really sure because at my current level deprecating spells don't hit a lot of target at once and I'm thinking casting each on for each target costs too much mana and wastes some turns.

Also, heartseeker is available to me now and I would like to know how often should I use it. Should I always keep it on or it depends on situations when I need it since mana cost is quite high, it's about 140+?
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post Mar 7 2015, 12:07
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QUOTE(CrimsonClown @ Mar 7 2015, 11:35) *

Posting my abilities screenshots and asking for advices and suggestions, thanks as always everyone that's been helping out.

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I haven't been using deprecating spells and since I now have access to Imperil I'm wondering if I should use it. I'm not really sure because at my current level deprecating spells don't hit a lot of target at once and I'm thinking casting each on for each target costs too much mana and wastes some turns.

Also, heartseeker is available to me now and I would like to know how often should I use it. Should I always keep it on or it depends on situations when I need it since mana cost is quite high, it's about 140+?


do you really have imperil? because as for me, its just the better imperil and not the skill itself open for me.
like my elemental skill.
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post Mar 7 2015, 12:24
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I always use imperil against schoolgirls, big bosses, and RE. Unlike mage (non-prof) which require it or else they'll die, imperil for melee only for speeding things up. But early level of imperil is scarcely game-breaking, therefore you can ignore it at least for some while.

If you need to train deprecating prof, use silence and weaken. Use sleep with DW to cheat ring of blood.
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post Mar 7 2015, 12:50
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Mar 6 2015, 23:09) *

can't find leg cotton of protection on this week auctions. i guess they won't be exactly cheap. even though they should

[edit]: found these ones:
Legendary Cobalt Cotton Gloves of Protection (dunno whether it's for sell or not)
Legendary Charged Cotton Cap of Warding (warding, but LMax PMI. still dunno etc etc)
Legendary Jade Cotton Pants of Protection (on FS, so subjected to restrictions. but free if he didn't ask any other leg before)


How can I search those equips I want around the forum?
site:https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showforum=77 doesn't help with content (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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post Mar 7 2015, 13:06
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QUOTE(Dead-ed @ Mar 7 2015, 00:46) *

Can't afford agile fleet yet.

interested? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

QUOTE(thraycount @ Mar 7 2015, 01:13) *

I originally started with DW, but didn't like it much.

I swapped to 1H early on and retained the light armor, figuring that stacking evade on top of block/parry/resist should make me more or less immortal. I hoped attack speed would serve triple duty by keeping Overwhelming Strikes up, generating more counterattacks by inserting more player turns between enemy attacks, and just plain improving DPS. It's also why i'm mainhanding a wakizashi at the moment rather than a rapier - looking at the combat formulas, it looks like vastly more damage comes from your base stats + proficiency rather than the weapon itself. This was all before I learned about power-type heavy armor, though.

But man, my proficiency is so bad in everything (been using light armor since day 1, and it's 50 levels below cap) that I feel like I'm locked into the choices I made.

1. DW/2H are good styles to start because 1H at low profs isn't good: it needs 200 prof to be ued at its fully extent, but you still have to reach lv200 in some ways. btw, DW can be still used later on (albeit it's not as berserk as 1H) at some extent, while 2H not: there exist some lv360-or-so DW players, but the highest 2H should be stuck at lv150 or so, i guess

2. 1H heavily relies on block/parry for counter-attacks and evade cut the number of hits taken, so the number of counters as well: it can help your survivability, but it also will slower your clear time. and wakis are a good choice for mainhand, switch to a rapier - if you already didn't

3. your profs are low because your level up speed is too high, but it's common at high levels. probably you won't be able to max a single prof until lv200~250, but there's nothing wrong on it.

QUOTE(FruitSmoothie @ Mar 7 2015, 04:27) *

I got one rank of it and have noticed a difference, it's pretty nice. I got tired of not having or even being close to rank 2 spells. Grinding proficiencies with full magic interference gear was not helping me at all. Probably won't buy any more though as 100k seems pricy atm. I'm not looking forward to Depreciative spell grinding as I don't even use it usually. Do people buy ranks in Weaken cd reduction to grind it or something? Every 3 turns is annoying, and the other Depreciative spells are pricy.

Doesn't the price and cost/time of Assimilator seem a bit weird? It's the kind of thing you'd want as early as Adept Learning to get any use out of it really. Seems like it should be similar to AL so people can grab a few ranks of it early.

1. i got one rank of assimilator by mistake and i'd want my 50k back! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
afaik, it's only useful for mages who want to max staff prof on affordable times

2. yes, depr prof is commonly trained by spamming 0-cd weaken

QUOTE(CrimsonClown @ Mar 7 2015, 10:35) *

Posting my abilities screenshots and asking for advices and suggestions, thanks as always everyone that's been helping out.

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I haven't been using deprecating spells and since I now have access to Imperil I'm wondering if I should use it. I'm not really sure because at my current level deprecating spells don't hit a lot of target at once and I'm thinking casting each on for each target costs too much mana and wastes some turns.

Also, heartseeker is available to me now and I would like to know how often should I use it. Should I always keep it on or it depends on situations when I need it since mana cost is quite high, it's about 140+?

if you unlocked silence it's nice to have it. imperil only on high-HP mobs

as you already noted, heartseeker is quite expensive, yet more effective, so cast it whenever you have a channeling effect. if you really *have* to cast it without channeling, at least do it in spirit stance

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How can I search those equips I want around the forum?
site:https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showforum=77 doesn't help with content (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

i have my own ways (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool2.gif)
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post Mar 7 2015, 13:30
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Mar 7 2015, 04:06) *

my pocket is so tight now, well... always.
Even if i purchase it, i can't use it frequently.
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post Mar 7 2015, 13:51
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QUOTE(Dead-ed @ Mar 7 2015, 12:30) *

my pocket is so tight now, well... always.
Even if i purchase it, i can't use it frequently.

it's not so expensive, or at least i think (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

pm me if you change your mind, i don't think it will go anywhere in the next future
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post Mar 7 2015, 13:56
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Mar 7 2015, 11:06) *

i have my own ways (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool2.gif)


May I know (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Mar 7 2015, 14:34
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QUOTE(showoff @ Mar 7 2015, 11:56) *

May I know (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Just use the search function.
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post Mar 7 2015, 14:52
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Mar 7 2015, 13:34) *

Just use the search function.

afaik it works well only for continuous words, looking for something like 'legendary cotton of protection' will return you an error.

or is there something that i don't know? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

QUOTE(showoff @ Mar 7 2015, 12:56) *

May I know (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

you can see FS as a sort of database, so if you want to know which stats can have a gear it's worth a try.
same thing for 'equipment thread', just look a couple of pages and something will exit.
as for boulay's thread, i happen to remember he owned one (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Mar 7 2015, 14:54
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Mar 7 2015, 10:09) *

can't find leg cotton of protection on this week auctions. i guess they won't be exactly cheap. even though they should

[edit]: found these ones:
Legendary Cobalt Cotton Gloves of Protection (dunno whether it's for sell or not)
Legendary Charged Cotton Cap of Warding (warding, but LMax PMI. still dunno etc etc)
Legendary Jade Cotton Pants of Protection (on FS, so subjected to restrictions. but free if he didn't ask any other leg before)


They're perceived as bad drops and people who got tons of them either bazaar them or don't even put them up for sale. I for example have these lying around and catching dust in my inventory. I only put the 2 charged cotton on sale, with rather exorbitant price because god knows when it suddenly becomes viable

Legendary Charged Cotton Cap of Protection
Legendary Ruby Cotton Cap of Warding
Legendary Amber Cotton Robe of Protection
Legendary Charged Cotton Gloves of Protection
Legendary Ruby Cotton Shoes of Warding
Legendary Amber Cotton Shoes of Warding
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post Mar 7 2015, 15:02
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Mar 7 2015, 13:54) *

They're perceived as bad drops and people who got tons of them either bazaar them or don't even put them up for sale. I for example have these lying around and catching dust in my inventory. I only put the 2 charged cotton on sale, with rather exorbitant price because god knows when it suddenly becomes viable

Legendary Charged Cotton Gloves of Protection

uhu. i always wondered why your prices were so high, now i know the reason. it's not a bad thought, if you can deal with some dust.

funny thing, a protection piece with better MMI than PMI (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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