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post Mar 1 2015, 02:58
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QUOTE(buckett @ Mar 1 2015, 02:40) *

Mana drain by auto-cast is casting_MP_cost * Speed of action taken in the last turn / duration. Does Haste affect this?


I read this as MP cost * time units of the last turn. So Haste would affect the time units spent in each turn, but the MP cost per 100 time units remains the same.

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post Mar 1 2015, 03:33
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Mar 1 2015, 10:42) *

i cleared Hellfest with holy, 2x faster than 1H. =.=


Well you have the t/s for it... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Mar 1 2015, 04:17
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QUOTE(TygerTyger @ Mar 1 2015, 12:33) *

Well you have the t/s for it... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


i counted by number of turn, not the actual time. My t/s is pretty shit, actually.
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post Mar 1 2015, 05:53
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QUOTE(forneus_zero @ Feb 28 2015, 11:06) *

Any advice on DW style? I've tried 1H+heavy and got rekt (again). So I decided to stick to DW for foreseeable future (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Currently I'm using shortsword+wakizashi both with slaughter suffix should I switch weapon? For armor I'm using cheap shade set I can found. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

I'm having trouble on arena in hell mode (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) and what is the right way to use spirit anyway? should I just get to spirit stance and spam normal attack until my OC empty or just use OC for skills?

thanks in advance (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


I started 1H on lvl 150~170 (rapier + power armor + force shield), on lvl 250+ The Trio and the Tree on Battletoads and PFUDOR RE is very easy.
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post Mar 1 2015, 11:53
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Feb 28 2015, 23:45) *

a useless one (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

You sure? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

QUOTE(holy_demon @ Mar 1 2015, 05:12) *

i cleared Hellfest with holy, 2x faster than 1H. =.=

Without Tapping? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Mar 1 2015, 12:28
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Mar 1 2015, 10:17) *

i counted by number of turn, not the actual time. My t/s is pretty shit, actually.

QUOTE(tetron @ Mar 1 2015, 17:53) *

You sure? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
Without Tapping? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Tapping would make the actual playing time triple....... So I normally choose to kill fast and die fast. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool2.gif)

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post Mar 1 2015, 13:38
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Feb 28 2015, 16:17) *

i counted by number of turn, not the actual time. My t/s is pretty shit, actually.


Holy is badass though. Dark clears faster but doesn't have the sustain for higher difficulties.

Who knows what will happen in the next patch. Maybe everything clear equal speed.
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post Mar 1 2015, 13:53
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Mar 1 2015, 11:17) *

i counted by number of turn, not the actual time. My t/s is pretty shit, actually.


Number of turns will obviously be lower for mage compared to melee. what should be counted is the actual time in minutes, since that is value players care about; i.e. maximizing time on HV.

QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Mar 1 2015, 20:38) *

Holy is badass though. Dark clears faster but doesn't have the sustain for higher difficulties.

Who knows what will happen in the next patch. Maybe everything clear equal speed.


Dark isn't terrible in sustain, but certainly doesn't have the advantage holy enjoys. Someone told me that dark will not get buffed, which is just rubbish.

But Tenboro did say that mits will go down, so maybe your prediction about equal clear speed will be correct. I think reducing mits is also rubbish. There's so many things he can do to make the game better/balanced, but reducing mits is nonsensical in that every element will now be the same?. So what is the point of choosing elements?
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post Mar 1 2015, 14:40
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Why? Actually it can be even higher isnt? Because as melee i always use ofc and it means turn off/on spirit stance. Its longer compare to spellspam rotation.
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post Mar 1 2015, 15:06
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QUOTE(tetron @ Mar 1 2015, 10:53) *

You sure? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

as above, i really prefer a savage power of slaughter against a plate of dampening, albeit peerless (otherwise i would've wasted 300k on an auction (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) ). feel free to prove me wrong, but switching from one to another would mean essentially:

-360 ADB / -3.3 ACC
-1% crit chance / -3% crit damage
+2.6 PMI / +1.6 MMI
+21 holy mit / +8 crushing / +4 piercing
+400 HP

so, basically 7% less damage for a bit of mitigations. is it worth?

QUOTE(nec1986 @ Mar 1 2015, 13:40) *

Because as melee i always use ofc and it means turn off/on spirit stance.

are you sure it's alright to rely so heavily on OFC, especially time-wise? personally i use it only on REs or once in a while in IW in rounds with 8+ mobs and high percentage of celestials
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post Mar 1 2015, 15:10
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I won 2 tickets from the toplists. What I should do with them? Danixxx shop or try my luck?
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post Mar 1 2015, 15:11
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QUOTE(pigowallace @ Mar 1 2015, 14:10) *

I won 2 tickets from the toplists. What I should do with them? Danixxx shop or try my luck?

which tickets?

[edit]: i mean, which quality?

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post Mar 1 2015, 15:21
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Mar 1 2015, 16:11) *

which tickets?

[edit]: i mean, which quality?


1 Silver and 1 Bronze... 1500c from the danixxx's shop.

I guess that the items that I'll get are worth almost the same. I mean... 1500c are not so much.
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post Mar 1 2015, 15:22
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QUOTE(pigowallace @ Mar 1 2015, 14:21) *

1 Silver and 1 Bronze... 1500c from the danixxx's shop.

I guess that the items that I'll get are worth almost the same. I mean... 1500c are not so much.

guess so. try the gamble then and let us know (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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post Mar 1 2015, 15:23
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or even better, sell them to me for 2k. never had tickets (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Mar 1 2015, 15:30
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Mar 1 2015, 13:06) *
are you sure it's alright to rely so heavily on OFC, especially time-wise? personally i use it only on REs or once in a while in IW in rounds with 8+ mobs and high percentage of celestials
With OFC I can get to around 185 in PF GF. Without OFC, I can get to only around 150. Without Focus, the difference would be even higher.

If a player gains ~14 OC on average every turn with 1h (less if fewer than ~3 monsters), then it takes around 15 turns (SS off) to generate enough OC for OFC. In exchange, at the start of a round, you can use OFC to inflict around 5-6x normal damage on each monster, often killing all but Giants. It seems that OFC is probably worth it any time there are 6+ monsters (and they'll take 4+ hits to kill).

At least, that's how it is for me, and I usually kill monsters in 4-5 hits, 6-7 if giant - so whenever OFC is off CD I can use it and save around (5.5 * monsters left) turns, or 44 turns, in exchange for 15 turns of half damage (no SS) - a net benefit of around 36 turns for the same ending state (except with higher buff durations remaining and fewer Cures used).

Though, if you have extraordinary gear like Cats Lover and it only takes 2-3 hits to kill everything, or if you're playing on low difficulty, there's much less use for OFC. You'd have to re-measure average time to kill against number of monsters.
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post Mar 1 2015, 15:33
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well, it does make sense at this point then
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post Mar 1 2015, 15:36
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Bronze --> Average Plate Greaves of Stoneskin
Silver --> Exquisite Rapier of the Vampire

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post Mar 1 2015, 15:51
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Yea. Im mostly using it if round req 20+ turns. Sometimes even 4 mobs, because if its pf than round is gonna be near it, but usually 5+.

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QUOTE(pigowallace @ Mar 1 2015, 14:36) *

net worth: 1 MG metal + 6 scraps, let's say 1k?
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