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butcher 4 and overpower 2 on an ethereal club of slaughter. should i reforge it?

yes. try to get butcher1, fatality 1 in the first IWTBH run.

yes. try to get butcher1, fatality 1 in the first IWTBH run.

supposed so. to think that it was a straight butcher 4 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

supposed so. to think that it was a straight butcher 4 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

nowadays, its best to know the two potencies you will be working towards. esp if you know you don't want a spec potency like overpower or annihilator.

Ah ok. I just saw <20 magic/staff prof so I assumed no maging. (I usually disable signature display)

Not maging atm but maybe later can't be bothered to train up the proficiency. And as Scremaz said doesn't really make much difference later on.

Almost over 9000 with DD! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif)
also, i think after a certain point where you're done with buying those necessary perks/equipment, you can save up an ungodly amount of credits, because you've basically stop spending.

Don't even have DD yet.... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

butcher 4 and overpower 2 on an ethereal club of slaughter. should i reforge it?

I wouldn't. Your choice, though.

butcher 4 and overpower 2 on an ethereal club of slaughter. should i reforge it?

by guessing you use it for mainhand dw, you can rely fatality on offhand.

yes. try to get butcher1, fatality 1 in the first IWTBH run.

What are the chances of that?

Edit: 1/4 for butcher * (1/2 for getting a potency other than butcher * 1/3 for getting fatality) = 1/24 for butcher followed by fatality.
Same for fatality followed by butcher, so 1/12 chance or 8.25%

This also means that you can expect to reforge 12 times ~on average~, consuming 24 shards to do so.

nowadays, its best to know the two potencies you will be working towards. esp if you know you don't want a spec potency like overpower or annihilator.

These are specialized and sometimes desirable? What is overpower good for, and what is annihilator good for?

This post has been edited by mozilla browser: Feb 20 2015, 04:08

Similar calculation for obtaining two desired potency combinations on the first IW run for staff...

1/5 * (1/2 x 1/4) = 1/40
Double this for the other variation, = 1/20 or 5% Expected 20 runs to achieve this, or 40 shards.

And, for obtaining two desired potencies on armor,

1/8 * (1/2 * 1/7) = 1/112
Including the other variation, 1/56 or 1.78%; Expected 56 runs or 112 shards!

What are the chances of that?

Edit: 1/4 for butcher * (1/2 for getting a potency other than butcher * 1/3 for getting fatality) = 1/24 for butcher followed by fatality.
Same for fatality followed by butcher, so 1/12 chance or 8.25%

This also means that you can expect to reforge 12 times ~on average~, consuming 24 shards to do so.
These are specialized? What is overpower good for, and what is annihilator good for?

those numbers sound about right.... you could be lucky and get it in the first run, or unlucky and have to reforge 50x. but what if you keep giong and get butcher4 and overpower5? how would you feel? it's frustrating, so best you can do is.... whine about it to tenboro.

overpower isn't worth wasting slots on a stun weapon, and depends on the staff, but I would prefer any other potency than annihilator. Maybe its okay on focus, but even then I would prefer cast speed.

This post has been edited by treesloth: Feb 20 2015, 04:12

What are the chances of that?

Edit: 1/4 for butcher * (1/2 for getting a potency other than butcher * 1/3 for getting fatality) = 1/24 for butcher followed by fatality.
Same for fatality followed by butcher, so 1/12 chance or 8.25%

This also means that you can expect to reforge 12 times ~on average~, consuming 24 shards to do so.
These are specialized? What is overpower good for, and what is annihilator good for?

The chances are 12.5%

Regarding what potencies do: http://ehwiki.org/wiki/potencies#Potencies

This also means that you can expect to reforge 12 times ~on average~, consuming 24 shards to do so.
These are specialized and sometimes desirable? What is overpower good for, and what is annihilator good for?

Actually it is grimmer than that. The waiting time to get a specific 1/1 is 12, so if after the 20th try you don't get it, you still expect to wait another 12 tries.

If you are looking to reforge your weapon, consider that for 15~20 shards you can forge your weapon's damage*, at lower levels of forging this could be 1.7% (+5) to 1.1% (+10) to 0.7% (+20), so it might be cheaper to use the forge.

*by selling the shards and buying the mats

Actually it is grimmer than that. The waiting time to get a specific 1/1 is 12,

No, the chances to get a specific 1/1 pair out of a set of 4 is 1/8. The first "roll" doesn't affect the second in any way. Given ABCD, the chances of getting A,B is 1/4 for the A and 1/4 for the B, so it's 1/16; since B,A fits the bill too the total chances double: 1/8.

so if after the 20th try you don't get it, you still expect to wait another 12 tries.

No, again. There's no such thing like a "history of previous rolls" nor any kind of reset switch for your tries. Every time you go for it the chances are always the same. This doesn't mean or imply that every time you go for it you'll have to sit through another 8 tries to get the desired result.

1/8 * (1/2 * 1/7) = 1/112
Including the other variation, 1/56 or 1.78%; Expected 56 runs or 112 shards!

There is a cheaper solution, though it takes more time: IW in Hell or Nintendo or BT at the beginning (depending on base PXP), so that if you don't get the first potency you want, you can reforge and only spend 1 shard instead of 2, though you'll have to go through the battle series twice (assuming you get a desired potency after going through it the first time). The chances of getting what you want each new time you reforge and try again are the same.

No, the chances to get a specific 1/1 pair out of a set of 4 is 1/8. The first "roll" doesn't affect the second in any way. Given ABCD, the chances of getting A,B is 1/4 for the A and 1/4 for the B, so it's 1/16; since B,A fits the bill too the total chances double: 1/8.

Given ABCD, after getting the first potency (whatever it is) (chance of 1/4), there is now only a pool of 3 potencies that new potencies are drawn from - so if the "new potency" roll succeeds (1/2), the chance of getting that second desired one is then 1/3.

When picking that "specific 1/1 pair out of a set of 4", it's without replacement (and also subject to the assumption that the second level of IW gives you a new potency instead of leveling up the existing one). Your math assumes with replacement, which is not how IW works.

so if after the 20th try you don't get it, you still expect to wait another 12 tries.

No, again. There's no such thing like a "history of previous rolls" nor any kind of reset switch for your tries. Every time you go for it the chances are always the same. This doesn't mean or imply that every time you go for it you'll have to sit through another 8 tries to get the desired result.

I think that was exactly the point. You won't have to sit through many again, but you're likely to.

whoa, intense discussion, off topic question: whats the highest known level for a player to have? I've seen some lvl 400-somethings but no 500 or anything, are there any?

whoa, intense discussion, off topic question: whats the highest known level for a player to have? I've seen some lvl 400-somethings but no 500 or anything, are there any?

Level cap is 500.

https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showuser=409722

whoa, intense discussion, off topic question: whats the highest known level for a player to have? I've seen some lvl 400-somethings but no 500 or anything, are there any?

https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=169111

This might be interesting for you.

Actually it is grimmer than that. The waiting time to get a specific 1/1 is 12, so if after the 20th try you don't get it, you still expect to wait another 12 tries.

If you are looking to reforge your weapon, consider that for 15~20 shards you can forge your weapon's damage*, at lower levels of forging this could be 1.7% (+5) to 1.1% (+10) to 0.7% (+20), so it might be cheaper to use the forge.

*by selling the shards and buying the mats

Doesn't get you any closer to the level 10 extra strike bonus. I'd say if you're not dealing with legendary gear where the cost of the item mandates perfect potencies you may as well keep bullying through to 10 regardless and save your amnesia shards for your legendaries.

So recently I am doing this whole FREE BINDINGS event, if you don't know now you know.

Anyway first off, I need to know which bindings are really popular nowadays and are bindings really that good?

So recently I am doing this whole FREE BINDINGS event, if you don't know now you know.

Anyway first off, I need to know which bindings are really popular nowadays and are bindings really that good?

They all appear to be generated at the same rate, so go to WTB or WTS and just copy the prices from there. The more expensive ones are more in demand.

They all appear to be generated at the same rate, so go to WTB or WTS and just copy the prices from there. The more expensive ones are more in demand.

Let me guess, Binding of Slaughter and Destruction?