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iirc, Void damage is still a bit better than Penetrated Armor (PA). since PA only reduce mitigation by 25% per stack, 3 stacks max or 75% max; and Void avoid (?!) mitigation totally?

What I'm thinking is, why would you ever get an ethereal rapier/estoc? Isn't it just a waste of a proc effect?

What I'm thinking is, why would you ever get an ethereal rapier/estoc? Isn't it just a waste of a proc effect?

Void damage still benefits from Penetrated Armor because it doesn't bypass physical mitigation, only specific mitigations such as crushing/slashing/piercing.

This post has been edited by Dammon: Feb 15 2015, 18:20

Void damage still benefits from Penetrated Armor because it doesn't bypass physical mitigation.

Aha. Thanks.

You should check out the beginner's guide. For now you should focus on leveling up as quick as possible so keep training Adept Learner. Pack Rat will also come in handy for longer battles.

Wisdom increases your mana pool, letting you Cure more before you have to use a potion.
Dexterity increases physical damage (like Strength) in addition to other stats. Both of these are quite useful - keep them around the level of Strength and Endurance.
Agility increases attack speed and other stats. It's good, but is usually slightly less of a priority than the other attributes.
Intelligence is useless except for the additional spirit points, so upgrade it only when it costs like 1/100 of what your other upgrades cost.

Grindfest isn't meant to be very useful for low-level players - it gives little credits and you can't go very far.

Still - when you die - think about what the cause is - most likely running out of mana. Then (as commonly recommended) the first training priority should be Pack Rat, increasing inventory space, letting you use more potions in battle. Adept Learner for XP is good as well for low-level players, as long as it remains cheap.

Thank you for the replies and the link. I will try to add some dexterity and wisdom and as well. How do you get credits if you don't use grind?

Thank you for the replies and the link. I will try to add some dexterity and wisdom and as well. How do you get credits if you don't use grind?

Do all the Arenas that you've unlocked and as many Random Encounters as you can at the highest difficulty that you can manage.

does grindfest get more rewarding the further you go into it? Was wondering because it is at level 300 and my 30minute bonus battle is up, should leave and do the bonus or no?

EDIT:] Oh and I do the 30min battles on bt and the grind at hell

This post has been edited by m00sey: Feb 15 2015, 20:19

does grindfest get more rewarding the further you go into it? Was wondering because it is at level 300 and my 30minute bonus battle is up, should leave and do the bonus or no?

Only crystals. Its up to 3x bonus at the 500 round, but monsters is also stronger. Btw, hellfest without crystal perk is mostly has negative result, because you also spend stamina (maybe even energy drink). It should be near 0 with first perk, a bit positive with second and some decent amount with last one.

This post has been edited by nec1986: Feb 15 2015, 20:21

So while at it, I should look for Power Armors and 1H + Force Shield huh

1h + shield, probably, but if you aren't having problems surviving yet then it isn't a huge priority.

I'm not entirely certain about this, but I wouldn't look for power armor at your level. It has very high interference (even higher than Plate) and your supportive proficiency (and level and Pack Rat) is probably still too low - you'll still be recasting buffs pretty frequently, but it'll take a ton of mana, so you probably won't be able to progress many rounds. Even normal Plate heavy armor is probably too much - stick to leather, especially if you're already using leather at the moment.

When you do have enough to use heavy armor, use a mix of defensive-oriented plate and Power Slaughter (but not non-Slaughter Power), since just surviving at your level will still be a big issue. As you level up you can gradually replace all the Plate with other Power Slaughter when you think you can sacrifice toughness for power. All power-slaughter is popular with level ~275+ players because survivability ceases to be an issue, but before then, players might be better off mixing in a few ordinary Plate as well.

Higher difficulty lets us get a higher crystal drop multiplier and so we use less xp and less time. So, why do people play Grindfest at Hell instead of higher difficulty? (I'm assuming that clearing GF is out of the question. Or even if it were, that the 5k clear bonus is insignificant compared to the time and stamina cost of doing so)

Also, which token is better? A blood token or a chaos token? Currently the market values a blood token at ~ 5k (5 tokens to fight FSM and get a noodly worth 25k). No idea about chaos token.

No idea when this dropped - Is Legendary Zircon Leather Breastplate Of Dampening worth anything?

Apparently Hell GF is popular because the lesser difficulties have loot drop penalties after many rounds, and it can be played much more quickly than the higher difficulties (and with less worry about surviving). GF is more for drops (items/equips/crystals/tokens) and less about experience. That's my guess. Clearing GF is not out of the question for high-level players with top-tier equipment - even PFUDOR-fest is completable.

I usually only play 5 arenas a day but I still almost always have enough blood tokens to play FSM every day as well. The more serious players probably get even more blood tokens, especially with the lottery and GF, and have many more than they can spend, so I'd guess they'd just care about chaos tokens.

Legendary leather is depressingly common. Even the Freeshop has too much of it.

Is the estoc's Penetrated Armor effect meaningless if your estoc is ethereal?

Not at all. Both PA and Void Damage are great to have - even better with both.

I just noticed I have enough hath to actually get some perks. Is it better to:
A: Get two levels of Innate Arcana now
B: Wait until I can get Resplendent Regeneration
C: Sell it

If you don't have the first two levels of IA, I'd get them first, since they're relatively cheap and significantly cut down on turns wasted recasting buffs. (Spark on IA also has amazing utility) You have a gold star, so you already have increased regeneration. I don't think RR is important enough for 500 hath unless you want to play PF DWD with a bit less stress, or want to play very long GF.

If your equipment is halfway decent then you probably don't need to sell your hath to get upgrades; I'd value IA more.

iirc, Void damage is still a bit better than Penetrated Armor (PA). since PA only reduce mitigation by 25% per stack, 3 stacks max or 75% max; and Void avoid (?!) mitigation totally?
imo, Get first 2 levels of Innate Arcana and slot haste & shadow veil.

Having Spark on IA has much more utility - you can even take a few fatal hits in a row while not paying attention and Spark will re-activate automatically, and you'll survive if Regen also gives you health that turn. It also gives you an extra turn after Spark activates and you're in trouble - so you can Cure/Fullcure/potion/T3 spell earlier than if you would have had to waste a turn recasting Spark. When you're in a bit of trouble, IMO that extra turn is really worth a lot on top of the ordinary benefits of IA.

Thank you for the replies and the link. I will try to add some dexterity and wisdom and as well. How do you get credits if you don't use grind?

Grindfest only gives 1/4th of the normal credits dropped. Play Arena/RE and you'll get a whole lot more credits.

This post has been edited by Superlatanium: Feb 15 2015, 22:40

Where did my Silence spell go? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

Where did my Silence spell go? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

Are you sure you have 40 depreciating prof?

Are you sure you have 40 depreciating prof?

That I do not. Didn't know that was a preq

okay, so I should've asked this ages ago because I havent gotten a clear picture from anywhere (the wiki isnt very informative on this either)


What do all these acronyms mean? EMax, EDB, PAB, PDB, MMax, and I am sure I am missing a few of them. If you could tell me which traits each is talking about, that would be so helpful!

okay, so I should've asked this ages ago because I havent gotten a clear picture from anywhere (the wiki isnt very informative on this either)
What do all these acronyms mean? EMax, EDB, PAB, PDB, MMax, and I am sure I am missing a few of them. If you could tell me which traits each is talking about, that would be so helpful!

http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Acronyms

http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Acronyms

*facepalm* how did I not find this earlier, thanks.

just curious, in terms of resist, how much Prof can make up for 1 level of penetrator?

just curious, in terms of resist, how much Prof can make up for 1 level of penetrator?

[(effective_prof - monster_level) / monster_level] = prof_factor, inclusively bound between 0 and 1. Multiply prof_factor by 50 to get your Counter-Resist, capped to 50%.

For what it's worth, my prof_factor is a sad 0.37 since I wear all-phase, and the Counter-Resist I get is about 19%. One level of Penetrator adds 4% if I remember correctly, so it doesn't take much proficiency to make up for one level of it.

How much worth through Auction?? Legendary Cobalt Shade Helmet of the Shadowdancer
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[(effective_prof - monster_level) / monster_level] = prof_factor, inclusively bound between 0 and 1. Multiply prof_factor by 50 to get your Counter-Resist, capped to 50%.

For what it's worth, my prof_factor is a sad 0.37 since I wear all-phase, and the Counter-Resist I get is about 19%. One level of Penetrator adds 4% if I remember correctly, so it doesn't take much proficiency to make up for one level of it.

The wiki says:

When a player casts a spell their proficiency is compared to the power level of the effected monsters to grant a counter-resist bonus of up to 50% and a specific mitigation reduction of up to 50 points for the spell's element.

But the wiki is not the most trustworthy source, and is infrequently upgraded. Are you sure about the formula? If so I can fix the info on the wiki.

can't this just be looked up in the hentaiverse code, I think I saw it supplied somewhere on these forums.

nevermind, tried to find it, but it was something else that I saw.