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Feb 12 2015, 12:51
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Colman
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QUOTE(n125 @ Feb 12 2015, 18:43)  How many piss jugs did you manage to fill doing 7M in 4 days? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif) jug? I didn't do IW during that time. My maging speed boost by a hugh amount due to the spellSpam. It allow me to watch Ranma 1/2 ep1-54 during the grind. Cotton work very well with spellSpam because it can reduce the dependence of imperil. I don't think I have the motivation to do it again.
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Feb 12 2015, 13:16
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Dammon
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QUOTE(Colman @ Feb 12 2015, 02:51)  jug? I didn't do IW during that time.
My maging speed boost by a hugh amount due to the spellSpam. It allow me to watch Ranma 1/2 ep1-54 during the grind. Cotton work very well with spellSpam because it can reduce the dependence of imperil.
I don't think I have the motivation to do it again.
I'm pretty sure he meant a different kind of jug. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) (IMG:[ i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/KN9S9Mu.jpg)
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Feb 12 2015, 13:16
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clarkiest
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QUOTE(Colman @ Feb 12 2015, 12:51)  jug? I didn't do IW during that time.
The piss jug is literal. He asks how many times you forgo bathroom break in order to accumulate that much credit.
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Feb 12 2015, 13:21
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clarkiest
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QUOTE(Dammon @ Feb 12 2015, 13:16)  I'm pretty sure he meant a different kind of jug. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) My God! dis I don't need gus real photo ting!
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Feb 12 2015, 13:29
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m118w11
Group: Gold Star Club
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Wow, 7M is like 20 PFUfests.
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Feb 12 2015, 13:56
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crute
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Colman how much trainings for 7m in 4 days? Majority of income from Crystals I guess?
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Feb 12 2015, 14:28
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malkatmp
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QUOTE(clarkiest @ Feb 12 2015, 13:21)  My God! dis I don't need gus real photo ting!
eye bleach. (IMG:[ i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/UkCxone.gif) QUOTE(m118w11 @ Feb 12 2015, 13:29)  Wow, 7M is like 20 PFUfests.
i wonder how many hellfest rds is that. also, how much ED did he used. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)
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Feb 12 2015, 15:22
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qwerty3232
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So, i just have a few questions about spells. As i have been focusing mostly on physical damage (level 80 currently), don't have quite a lot of mana (around 200), and only magic proficiency i have is Support, i am not sure what should i spend my ability points on. First, i have maxed Cure as it is quite cheap and i have enough mana to support it, and it is quite useful for now. Also, i have 2 points in Protection, but i don't know if +1% mitigation per level is worth it. Absorb uses too much mana (30) and doesn't seem strong enough to be worth updating since it only absorbs one spell. Regen seems ok, but uses way too much mana (and cost increases with level). Haste: i have been using it for a while but i am not sure i have noticed that it makes much difference in combat.
So questions: Are points in Protection and Absorb worth it? Should i spend AP (i have about 30 AP saved) on Regen and Haste since they seem to scale much better than Protection and absorb? Should i just wait for a spell like Shadow Veil (Evade bonus seems quite good)? Is Spark of life really as terrible as it looks? Should i maybe try gettin some points in other Magic proficiencies?
And about other abilities: I have been spending points on Tank abilities and they seem OK, but should i be spending points on Better ____ pots as they don't seem to offer much of an improvement (although i have 3 point in Health pots)?
Thanks in advance.
This post has been edited by qwerty3232: Feb 12 2015, 15:23
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Feb 12 2015, 15:23
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(malkatmp @ Feb 12 2015, 13:28)  who?[edit]: ryu ji-hye, right? This post has been edited by Scremaz: Feb 12 2015, 15:45
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Feb 12 2015, 15:29
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(qwerty3232 @ Feb 12 2015, 14:22)  So, i just have a few questions about spells. As i have been focusing mostly on physical damage (level 80 currently), don't have quite a lot of mana (around 200), and only magic proficiency i have is Support, i am not sure what should i spend my ability points on. First, i have maxed Cure as it is quite cheap and i have enough mana to support it, and it is quite useful for now. Also, i have 2 points in Protection, but i don't know if +1% mitigation per level is worth it. Absorb uses too much mana (30) and doesn't seem strong enough to be worth updating since it only absorbs one spell. Regen seems ok, but uses way too much mana (and cost increases with level). Haste: i have been using it for a while but i am not sure i have noticed that it makes much difference in combat.
So questions: 1) Are points in Protection and Absorb worth it? 2) Should i spend AP (i have about 30 AP saved) on Regen and Haste since they seem to scale much better than Protection and absorb? 3) Should i just wait for a spell like Shadow Veil (Evade bonus seems quite good)? 4) Is Spark of life really as terrible as it looks? 5) Should i maybe try gettin some points in other Magic proficiencies?
And about other abilities: 6) I have been spending points on Tank abilities and they seem OK, but should i be spending points on Better ____ pots as they don't seem to offer much of an improvement (although i have 3 point in Health pots)?
Thanks in advance.
1) protection yes. absorb not. 2) haste is almost a must. regen as well. if you don't have enough AP train them, at your level it's still quite cheap 3) shadow veil is useful if you're light armor users, useless for heavies 4) use spark only at high difficulties, because you still don't have control over your SP pool 5) no other profs needed atm. and grind them later will be quicker. 6) spend points in the potions you actually use: the effect is they will restore a larger amount of ___ , both at the start and at every turn. it will be a bit hard to note if you are already using heroics, but nice boost for greaters protip: if your mana pool isn't big enough, cast spells while in spirit stance: they won't last longer, but they will cost 25% less
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Feb 12 2015, 15:35
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clarkiest
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QUOTE(qwerty3232 @ Feb 12 2015, 15:22)  Are points in Protection and Absorb worth it? Should i spend AP (i have about 30 AP saved) on Regen and Haste since they seem to scale much better than Protection and absorb? Should i just wait for a spell like Shadow Veil (Evade bonus seems quite good)? Is Spark of life really as terrible as it looks? Should i maybe try gettin some points in other Magic proficiencies?
And about other abilities: I have been spending points on Tank abilities and they seem OK, but should i be spending points on Better ____ pots as they don't seem to offer much of an improvement (although i have 3 point in Health pots)?
Thanks in advance.
Almost all support spell is important. The unimportant one is absorb. It's not very useful even when it always proc. That means, if you can afford it, slot all Protection, regen, haste, veil, cure, and later, spirit shield and spark of life. You can ignore veil for some time if you're melee 1H. However, HP, MP, and Spirit pool the is most important. It allow you to take one more hit in case you missed cure due to ping, it allow you to cast one more spell in case your potion run out, it allow you to proc one more spark in case your cure is in cooldown. (until your spirit shield can trigger easier, spark is your only rescuer in high difficulty). They're the line between defeat and survive. Offensive and deffensive ability are not important early on since they're based on proficiency. You can wait until they reach prof 100 or so. There also ability boost training if you think your AP isn't enough AND you have spare credit to spend. Note that buying better equipment is more important than most training.
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Feb 12 2015, 15:45
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qwerty3232
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Thank you both for replies. I finally have an idea on what should i be focusing.
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Feb 12 2015, 15:47
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mozilla browser
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Feb 12 2015, 17:16)  I checked not so long time ago and its still very tough. Mage has so awesome potential, but req to equip is also very expensive. Difference between average melee and high melee maybe in few times, but difference between average mage and high mage could be easy be 4x+, because mdb and edm scales from each other.
What? MDB and EDB scales from each other? QUOTE(Colman @ Feb 12 2015, 18:41)  No need to have anything good and/or hath perk. I just keep play Hellfest. Most of the time die before round 200. Then looking for players who are buying figure/pills/scrolls etc. And i can still keep my crystal.
BTW, my connection to HV is not that bad at that moment. (1.3-1.5 turn/sec)
Gotta try this (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) Were prices for figures/pills/scrolls higher than today though? I'm sure figures have gone down in prices.
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Feb 12 2015, 15:50
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Cleavs
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(mozilla browser @ Feb 12 2015, 14:47)  Were prices for figures/pills/scrolls higher than today though? I'm sure figures have gone down in prices.
market for ponies is close to zero nowadays (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Feb 12 2015, 15:51
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clarkiest
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What price of equipment to expect if I am to play mage at Nintendo (per piece, unforged)? Does 100k staff, 100k cap, 100k robe, and so on, enough?
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Feb 12 2015, 16:05
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(clarkiest @ Feb 12 2015, 14:51)  What price of equipment to expect if I am to play mage at Nintendo (per piece, unforged)? Does 100k staff, 100k cap, 100k robe, and so on, enough?
first of all, which element? second of all, start searching some EMax EDB on the leftovers of auctions
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Feb 12 2015, 16:08
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malkatmp
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Feb 12 2015, 15:23) 
who?
[edit]: ryu ji-hye, right?
yup, stream: [ afreeca.com] http://afreeca.com/rjh1028youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/lovetv1028QUOTE(mozilla browser @ Feb 12 2015, 15:47)  What? MDB and EDB scales from each other? Gotta try this (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) Were prices for figures/pills/scrolls higher than today though? I'm sure figures have gone down in prices. i think what he means is MDB & EDB compensates each other. in a way, Magic Damage is effected by MDB * EDB, but physcial damage is effected by ADB only. also, iirc, ponies/crystal packs used to worth 70-80k each. though, nowadays, they a lot cheaper & the demand almost disappeared. kinda the same with scrolls/shards. QUOTE(clarkiest @ Feb 12 2015, 15:51)  What price of equipment to expect if I am to play mage at Nintendo (per piece, unforged)? Does 100k staff, 100k cap, 100k robe, and so on, enough?
imo, you can kinda cheap out on phase/cotton, but you need a good staff (forged). 50-100k phase are okay for beginners (probably EMax EDB/Evade). also, i think you'll probably need around 160-170% prof to get no (very little) resist on Nintendo. so maybe an Leg Elementalist staff (?!) + 4 phase + 1 prof cotton?
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Feb 12 2015, 16:13
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(malkatmp @ Feb 12 2015, 15:08)  i don't know why but i'd really like to bang her (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) btw, do you perhaps know who is the second girl in [ www.google.com] this other image?
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Feb 12 2015, 16:29
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malkatmp
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Feb 12 2015, 16:13)  i don't know why but i'd really like to bang her (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) btw, do you perhaps know who is the second girl in [ www.google.com] this other image? 최슬기 (?!) this is her [ blog.naver.com] blog with youtube/facebook/intagram/afreecaTV/etc links. ps. those 2 pics are from a video on ryu ji-hye's youtube channel. This post has been edited by malkatmp: Feb 12 2015, 16:31
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Feb 12 2015, 16:33
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nec1986
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QUOTE(mozilla browser @ Feb 12 2015, 16:47)  What? MDB and EDB scales from each other?
QUOTE(malkatmp @ Feb 12 2015, 17:08)  i think what he means is MDB & EDB compensates each other. in a way, Magic Damage is effected by MDB * EDB, but physcial damage is effected by ADB only.
Yep. Thats not 100% correct, but simple example. In average staff ppl have 500 magic damage and 70 elemental. We have something like 500*1,7=850. In awesome staff we have 800+ damage with 110+ elemental and its already 800*2,1=1680. As i said its not 100% correct, but in any melee equip you have only something like 600 adb compare to 450 adb and its 600/450=33% difference.
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