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post Feb 3 2015, 19:01
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The good thing about holy/dark is possibility to reduce mitg without imperil, but its not very high amount and specially compare to lose to each side.
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post Feb 3 2015, 19:18
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waki gets ss, overpower and fatality.

finally, i can say goodbye to butcher.
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btw, regarding the monster lab, what is the better strategy? make a monster as strong as possible, or create a lot of monsters with low-medium levels?


My 50-level humanoid gave me a slaughter binding yesterday, which never happens with my other higher level monsters. LOL.


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post Feb 3 2015, 19:45
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Feb 3 2015, 08:58) *
IA is quite useless. I got 2 slots and maybe its even worse than without it, because its much lower amount of channeling (heartseeker and regen rebuff). Only good thing is no turns buffs and its quite useful in fest, because you prefer to clear fast enough. So dont even think about it and its mostly good only with 4-5 slots.

IA1 for Spark is very definitely worth it if playing on a high difficulty. Spark will be recast automatically, meaning that you have an extra turn when you're in trouble.

Also, with Regen, you can take several fatal hits in a row with Spark on IA while not paying attention and still stay alive (if your action speed isn't too high and you're lucky with Regen health timing).

On PFUDOR, Cure and non-IA spells are almost always enough to proc Channeling for Heartseeker and Regen every hundred turns or so. It's worth it.
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_ get crystals packs for my 3xx PL monster (i'll check PL asap)

Monster lab is an end-game investment that takes a whole lot of crystals to start generating a significant profit. It's for players who have tens of millions of credits/crystals just lying around - I wouldn't even consider intentionally upgrading monsters until level 370+, unless you have a lot of income from H@H.

Still, you can make basic unupgraded PL 25 monsters for near no cost, and they'll still occasionally give you materials/bindings. Just don't intentionally upgrade PL past 50 or so unless you're sure you have a whole lot of funds to spare.
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btw, regarding the monster lab, what is the better strategy? make a monster as strong as possible, or create a lot of monsters with low-medium levels?

If you aren't level 370+, best to create lots of very cheap monsters, otherwise upgrading PL will suck too much of your income when you need that income to get decent basic equipment.
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I don't think it's a reliable source of mana. How the hell are mages supposed to clear higher level arenas and grindfest without a source of infinite mana? I'm playing on PFUDOR btw. Is it too high for my current level?

I heard someone say that Ether Theft helps a lot. It's probably great on schoolgirls, but on normal monsters you need to make sure the monster stays alive long enough for you to get the full benefit. Also, unless you're already casting T2-T3 Holy regularly, you might need level 300 Ether Theft ability for it to be worth it (increase proc chance).

That's just something I heard though. I don't have experience with mage, so you might try it yourself and see if it's usable or not.
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post Feb 3 2015, 20:14
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Feb 3 2015, 16:37) *

I d rly like to place regen in ia, because its main mana outcome.

i don't think it'll be a good idea: it's still the best way to gain a channeling, which may be used for heartseeker, ragnarok (thus an almost-free siphon process) or the very same spells you place in ia to re-gain MP via normal regeneration... and sometimes you can cast regen itself via channeling, so it would be somehow a waste to have it as IA
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post Feb 3 2015, 20:19
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I don't think it's a reliable source of mana. How the hell are mages supposed to clear higher level arenas and grindfest without a source of infinite mana? I'm playing on PFUDOR btw. Is it too high for my current level?

I'd been hearing that mage can't compare to 1h on PFUDOR before level 400+ and having godly and IWd equipment, but if you can do PFUDOR without dying I guess what I heard was wrong...? I would love to switch to mage if I could, but I've been holding off waiting for level ups.

Level 226 PFUDOR corresponds to only 1460~ PL monsters, but with the increased defense and proficiencies at my level it sounds like I should be able to do PFUDOR as well. What do you think, Colman?
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post Feb 3 2015, 21:16
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Feb 4 2015, 02:19) *

I'd been hearing that mage can't compare to 1h on PFUDOR before level 400+ and having godly and IWd equipment, but if you can do PFUDOR without dying I guess what I heard was wrong...? I would love to switch to mage if I could, but I've been holding off waiting for level ups.

Level 226 PFUDOR corresponds to only 1460~ PL monsters, but with the increased defense and proficiencies at my level it sounds like I should be able to do PFUDOR as well. What do you think, Colman?

It should be alright at your level. The only problem for mid-level mage on PF is the initial cost.
You may try 5 phase holy mage first, with some cheap pieces. Then slowly mix some prof cotton in until you find the best ratio without imperil.
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post Feb 3 2015, 21:40
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Is it enough? I mean imperil can also reduce magic defense, not only specific mitg.

I feel a bit unluck. Finally got 2 jugg in iw, but now its 6lvl with 3elec and 1fire. My chances is quite low
And my stamina a bit also (IMG:[s019.radikal.ru] http://s019.radikal.ru/i621/1502/ff/4aa7dc7b7978.jpg)

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post Feb 4 2015, 01:44
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It should be alright at your level. The only problem for mid-level mage on PF is the initial cost.
You may try 5 phase holy mage first, with some cheap pieces. Then slowly mix some prof cotton in until you find the best ratio without imperil.


Are cotton cloth actually useful later on? Cause I think I salvaged some legendary cap and pants (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Feb 4 2015, 02:05
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QUOTE(Mr. Buns @ Feb 4 2015, 00:44) *

Are cotton cloth actually useful later on? Cause I think I salvaged some legendary cap and pants (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

cotton of proficiency may be nice to have afaik
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post Feb 4 2015, 02:11
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Picked up subpar 1h+Shield equipment (Superior Ethereal Club of Balance, Superior Mithril Buckler of the Nimble) and combat still feels pretty smooth on Nintendo. Thanks for the advice. A few follow-up questions, if I may:
  • I got the club and buckler from the shop for cheaps, but how long can (or should) I hold onto them? Still deciding what to do with my capital, but I'd rather not have to spend it.
  • 1h's "Merciful Blow" - Can it be relied on to finish off the boss-like monsters (e.g., The Schoolgirls)? Put another way, will Merciful Blow fail against any particular enemies?
  • Are these Magnificent Amber Leather Boots of Deflection worth anything? They were my first Magnificent drop, but otherwise I doubt they have any real value.
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post Feb 4 2015, 02:24
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QUOTE(DamienCash @ Feb 4 2015, 01:11) *

Picked up subpar 1h+Shield equipment (Superior Ethereal Club of Balance, Superior Mithril Buckler of the Nimble) and combat still feels pretty smooth on Nintendo. Thanks for the advice. A few follow-up questions, if I may:
  • I got the club and buckler from the shop for cheaps, but how long can (or should) I hold onto them? Still deciding what to do with my capital, but I'd rather not have to spend it.
  • 1h's "Merciful Blow" - Can it be relied on to finish off the boss-like monsters (e.g., The Schoolgirls)? Put another way, will Merciful Blow fail against any particular enemies?
  • Are these Magnificent Amber Leather Boots of Deflection worth anything? They were my first Magnificent drop, but otherwise I doubt they have any real value.

1. don't use club with 1H, is redundant since counters already stun enemies. use rapiers (best choice but expensive), shortswords (quite cheap), daggers, wakis (if nothing else is available) - whatever you want, but not clubs. also, i guess you may want to change that shield before lv200
2. merciful blow will automatically kill every enemy (including FSM at PF difficulty) if its health is less than 25% and is affected by bleeding wound. don't use it very often, so i don't know if/how much it can fail, but it seems pretty reliable if these two conditions are met
3. nope. nowadays there's inflation of 4PABs leg leathers (at least they say, i still have to catch one though (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) ), let apart 3PAB mags. basically, 2500c for HG leather or sentimental value as your first mag drop. at this point i'd go for the latter...
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post Feb 4 2015, 02:53
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[*]I got the club and buckler from the shop for cheaps, but how long can (or should) I hold onto them? Still deciding what to do with my capital, but I'd rather not have to spend it.

If you can find a Force Shield with around Smax block (and hopefully 3 PABs as well), you'll almost double your block chance, which is possibly the most important stat for 1h player. It shouldn't cost much, I even see them in the Bazaar occasionally.

If you plan on sticking with 1h for a while (which you probably should, barring patch rebalancing), get a decent prefixed Rapier of Slaughter as soon as you can afford it. Against giants, bosses, and schoolgirls, it can more than double your damage output. Penetrated Armor is strong enough that I'd prefer a meh 300-320 pxp rapier over any other Peerless 1h weapon, unless I was playing on low difficulty and killing mobs in less than 4 turns (not enough time for PA to proc and be useful).
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post Feb 4 2015, 03:39
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Aye, just grabbed the club for the Ethereal-ness. I'll replace it as soon as a decent replacement shows up in the Bazaar. The buckler too. Thanks again.
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post Feb 4 2015, 05:45
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QUOTE(DamienCash @ Feb 3 2015, 17:39) *

Aye, just grabbed the club for the Ethereal-ness. I'll replace it as soon as a decent replacement shows up in the Bazaar. The buckler too. Thanks again.


As someone close to your level, grab stuff from the player shops. You can get decent items, probably far better than what you'd find in the bazaar, for a reasonable or even cheap price.
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post Feb 4 2015, 08:59
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What is this "S-MAX" and "S-4" abbreviations I keep hearing?

I read the entire wiki and it isn't very apparent, I assume it has something to do with equipment roll ranges?
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post Feb 4 2015, 09:12
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what is the max block change for magnificient shield?

Is my Magnificient Force Shield of protection at max block? If yes, is it wise to upgrade it block change?
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What is this "S-MAX" and "S-4" abbreviations I keep hearing?

I read the entire wiki and it isn't very apparent, I assume it has something to do with equipment roll ranges?

http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Acronyms

S-4 would mean 4 points below the base maximum value of the attribute on a Superior piece of equipment.
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what is the max block change for magnificient shield?

Is my Magnificient Force Shield of protection at max block? If yes, is it wise to upgrade it block change?

Block is at M-0.03 - that's great, 3 PABs, and of high Protection as well. It's definitely worth forging, even though the special material isn't that cheap. Go for it.

(Remember that the first 5-10 levels are relatively cheap and provide the most value per upgrade, while further upgrades start costing quite a bunch and only give a fraction of the original boost)
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post Feb 4 2015, 09:47
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QUOTE(tailor64 @ Feb 3 2015, 22:59) *

What is this "S-MAX" and "S-4" abbreviations I keep hearing?

I read the entire wiki and it isn't very apparent, I assume it has something to do with equipment roll ranges?


SMAX is just an abbreviation to indicate that a particular stat has the estimated maximum base roll for an item of superior quality. The same reasoning goes for the abbreviations EXMAX, MMAX and LMAX.

If there is a subtrahend, it indicates how far off the base roll of a stat is from its estimated maximum.

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what is the max block change for magnificient shield?

Is my Magnificient Force Shield of protection at max block? If yes, is it wise to upgrade it block change?


The maximum block chance for magnificent force shields is 33.92, so to me that shield looks like it's good enough to upgrade. Unless you can afford a better legendary.
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post Feb 4 2015, 09:56
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QUOTE(4126 @ Feb 4 2015, 09:12) *
what is the max block change for magnificient shield?

Is my Magnificient Force Shield of protection at max block? If yes, is it wise to upgrade it block change?

Mmmm, pristine shield without any upgrade. Me like.

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What is this "S-MAX" and "S-4" abbreviations I keep hearing?

I read the entire wiki and it isn't very apparent, I assume it has something to do with equipment roll ranges?

S-max is best roll for superior grade equipment in that particular stat. Look at equipment range wiki. There you will see min and max roll or superior grade equipment as well as max for exquisite, magnificent, legendary, and peerless. People want their equipment the best at stat of their choosing. Mmax mean that stat reach it maximum possible for magnificent grade, Mmax-1 means it short 1 from being max.

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Aye, just grabbed the club for the Ethereal-ness. I'll replace it as soon as a decent replacement shows up in the Bazaar. The buckler too. Thanks again.

Anything that people don't think will sell at wts threads will be sold to bazaar. Those are bazaar fodder equipments. Means, go to wts thread! Furthermore, you are still eligible for freeshop. Read their rules to get anything on their catalog. Freeshop today houses really decent equipments.
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post Feb 4 2015, 10:18
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The maximum block chance for magnificent force shields is 33.92, so to me that shield looks like it's good enough to upgrade. Unless you can afford a better legendary.


I don't understand. You say that maximum block chance for magnificent force shields is 33.92, but my shield is 38.28

How is that happen?
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