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Feb 3 2015, 15:26
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Feb 3 2015, 14:19)  Should be near it. Actually d be better to have 20k+, but its very hard.
hmmm. better to prepare some amnesias ready to use then QUOTE(nec1986 @ Feb 3 2015, 14:19)  Btw. How to get 9k+ attack with 1h? The only way is awesome roll with many forge upgrades?
at our levels i guess so. all my armors are within S-4 range (but with quite some decent rolls for STR and DEX), yet i'm still at 5640, how much are you?
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Feb 3 2015, 15:40
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nec1986
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Farming a bit atm. As i remember it was 5630 or near it. Hm...actually yea, damage has high scaling, so its quite big difference compare to someone with 450lvl. Seems with new patch it ll be deleted, but system probably gonna be same (higher stats for higher lvl in gear).
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Feb 3 2015, 15:48
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Cleavs
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currently i'm going through a different path: maximum possible crit bonus damage is ~83% (with DW and full savage shade), and i'm already at 75. with last fatality level i should earn 77, let's see how it works...
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Feb 3 2015, 16:35
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nec1986
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Lol. Hellfest isnt so easy. I did only 451 round. First 300 is like nothing, but after that cure-cure-pot-cure-drain. Next time gonna use infusions.
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Feb 3 2015, 16:49
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tv1990
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ok now i'm a 178 1H/power armor and i've saved around 270k and i'm considering these 3 options :
_ keep saving to get innate arcana HatH perk _ get crystals packs for my 3xx PL monster (i'll check PL asap) _ upgrade my equipement from power of warding/protection to a full set of power of slaughter
which one do you suggest i should focus on, one of these three or something that i didn't consider
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Feb 3 2015, 16:53
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(tv1990 @ Feb 3 2015, 15:49)  ok now i'm a 178 1H/power armor and i've saved around 270k and i'm considering these 3 options :
_ keep saving to get innate arcana HatH perk _ get crystals packs for my 3xx PL monster (i'll check PL asap) _ upgrade my equipement from power of warding/protection to a full set of power of slaughter
which one do you suggest i should focus on, one of these three or something that i didn't consider
IA1.
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Feb 3 2015, 16:54
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Colman
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QUOTE(tv1990 @ Feb 3 2015, 22:49)  ok now i'm a 178 1H/power armor and i've saved around 270k and i'm considering these 3 options :
_ keep saving to get innate arcana HatH perk _ get crystals packs for my 3xx PL monster (i'll check PL asap) _ upgrade my equipement from power of warding/protection to a full set of power of slaughter
which one do you suggest i should focus on, one of these three or something that i didn't consider
IA 1 should be the most reasonable choice for your budget. Crystal pack is too expensive for you. It require 6-7m credits to make a single monster appear in battle frequently. Full Exq power slaughter may not be expensive. But I think IA 1 is most useful as it can also increase your supportive prof automatically.
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Feb 3 2015, 16:58
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nec1986
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QUOTE(tv1990 @ Feb 3 2015, 17:49)  ok now i'm a 178 1H/power armor and i've saved around 270k and i'm considering these 3 options :
_ keep saving to get innate arcana HatH perk _ get crystals packs for my 3xx PL monster (i'll check PL asap) _ upgrade my equipement from power of warding/protection to a full set of power of slaughter
which one do you suggest i should focus on, one of these three or something that i didn't consider
IA is quite useless. I got 2 slots and maybe its even worse than without it, because its much lower amount of channeling (heartseeker and regen rebuff). Only good thing is no turns buffs and its quite useful in fest, because you prefer to clear fast enough. So dont even think about it and its mostly good only with 4-5 slots. Atm good mob probably with 1k or near it pl, so you need huge amount of crystals for it. My best monsters is 70 and 57 PL and they have 13/2 12/1 stats. F.e. my 425PL celestial has only 9/0 and i dont expect much difference before that edge. So also dont focus much on it. And equip is definitely good investment. I dont think about new patch (coming soon), but at the same time you spend not so much and anyway get better.
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Feb 3 2015, 16:59
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Mr. Buns
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Hey guys are there any way to generate infinite mana other than using my staff to beat the hell out of the monsters to gain overcharge then use focus ? This is so tedious during long arenas for me. I already have Pack Rat upgraded to full but it just isn't enough.
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Feb 3 2015, 17:00
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nec1986
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Hm. Why ia? It has better prof gain? As i remember i had more like 1/2-2/3 of my lvl until 300+ and prof is quite useful thing. QUOTE(Mr. Buns @ Feb 3 2015, 17:59)  Hey guys are there any way to generate infinite mana other than using my staff to beat the hell out of the monsters to gain overcharge then use focus ? This is so tedious during long arenas for me. I already have Pack Rat upgraded to full but it just isn't enough.
You can use ether tap. If coalesced mana is affecting an enemy, hitting it with basic attack has a chance to proc it. Restore 2% of base mp per turn and capped at 4 (so its 8% of base). It can be also stacked once. This post has been edited by nec1986: Feb 3 2015, 17:04
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Feb 3 2015, 17:16
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arialinnoc
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Could I have a price check on these pants? This post has been edited by arialinnoc: Feb 3 2015, 17:17
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Feb 3 2015, 17:23
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Colman
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QUOTE(arialinnoc @ Feb 3 2015, 23:16)  Could I have a price check on these pants? I think it should be ~2m in auction, 3m+ in shop.
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Feb 3 2015, 17:25
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tv1990
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my prof is low (78 supp prof) for my level, i think i'll get 1 IA and then see for equips as for the monster , i will make an oath to not feed him crystals unless he bring me a binding (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) This post has been edited by tv1990: Feb 3 2015, 17:26
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Feb 3 2015, 17:25
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Mr. Buns
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Feb 3 2015, 22:00) 
You can use ether tap. If coalesced mana is affecting an enemy, hitting it with basic attack has a chance to proc it. Restore 2% of base mp per turn and capped at 4 (so its 8% of base). It can be also stacked once.
I don't think it's a reliable source of mana. How the hell are mages supposed to clear higher level arenas and grindfest without a source of infinite mana? I'm playing on PFUDOR btw. Is it too high for my current level?
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Feb 3 2015, 17:32
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Feb 3 2015, 15:58)  IA is quite useless. I got 2 slots and maybe its even worse than without it, because its much lower amount of channeling (heartseeker and regen rebuff). Only good thing is no turns buffs and its quite useful in fest, because you prefer to clear fast enough. So dont even think about it and its mostly good only with 4-5 slots.
atm i have two slots and i go quite fine with them. i'd buy the third as well, if only it was cheaper XD also, it's not like 100MP-spells can proc channelling so often, but they still can earn supportive prof at every turn (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Feb 3 2015, 17:37
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nec1986
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QUOTE(Mr. Buns @ Feb 3 2015, 18:25)  I don't think it's a reliable source of mana. How the hell are mages supposed to clear higher level arenas and grindfest without a source of infinite mana? I'm playing on PFUDOR btw. Is it too high for my current level?
It should be. I dont remember well, but i could clear late arenas (near trio) only after 250+ and maybe closer to 300 with 1h set. For good mage style you need awesome gear otherwise pf monsters gonna damage you hard and you get in trap cure-more damage-more cure. As i think iwbth+ trio available for mage only after 300 and maybe even something like 320-330+. QUOTE(Scremaz @ Feb 3 2015, 18:32)  atm i have two slots and i go quite fine with them. i'd buy the third as well, if only it was cheaper XD also, it's not like 100MP-spells can proc channelling so often, but they still can earn supportive prof at every turn (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Maybe because i have sup cap. So my base mana is near 700 and its near 1200 turns for 1 skill like spirit shield to proc channeling. At the same time even 0.75% of hungry skill (half from 1.5x duration) equial to 1.75 of ss (almost 170mp) and its much bigger than 10% upkeep from 840. Also some disadvantages with ofc oc farm without spirit stance. Its not 100% correct, because in some cases with high mana spending it has less value, but still upkeep should get many benefits to be at least equal (or few slots) and in both cases its only very small advantage. I d rly like to place regen in ia, because its main mana outcome. This post has been edited by nec1986: Feb 3 2015, 17:59
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Feb 3 2015, 17:40
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Colman
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QUOTE(Mr. Buns @ Feb 3 2015, 23:25)  I don't think it's a reliable source of mana. How the hell are mages supposed to clear higher level arenas and grindfest without a source of infinite mana? I'm playing on PFUDOR btw. Is it too high for my current level?
Hellfest tip: - Elemental mage: kill faster - Holy mage: Ether tap FYI, my holy set with sharding the staff can reach ~round 400 in Hellfest without Ether tap. With better equipment, I think I can reach round 600 without ether tap. Arena up to level 200 T&T on PF - Kill faster is what you need. I never use ether tap in arena besides school girl levels. BTW, do you have 15 pot slots? This post has been edited by Colman: Feb 3 2015, 17:40
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Feb 3 2015, 18:34
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Mr. Buns
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Feb 3 2015, 22:37)  It should be. I dont remember well, but i could clear late arenas (near trio) only after 250+ and maybe closer to 300 with 1h set. For good mage style you need awesome gear otherwise pf monsters gonna damage you hard and you get in trap cure-more damage-more cure. As i think iwbth+ trio available for mage only after 300 and maybe even something like 320-330+.
Yeah I think I'll lower it to IWBTH. QUOTE(Colman @ Feb 3 2015, 22:40)  Hellfest tip: - Elemental mage: kill faster - Holy mage: Ether tap
FYI, my holy set with sharding the staff can reach ~round 400 in Hellfest without Ether tap. With better equipment, I think I can reach round 600 without ether tap.
By hellfest you mean grind fest at Hell difficulty or PFUDOR? Anyways I use both holy and dark. Is that a bad thing? Should I just focus my gear to only dark or only holy bonus? QUOTE Arena up to level 200 T&T on PF - Kill faster is what you need. I never use ether tap in arena besides school girl levels. BTW, do you have 15 pot slots? Yeah I have all of them. I don't fine any use for infusion ans scroll slots though. They provide so little benefit. It take me like 10 to 20 dark/holy spell combos to kill monsters on PFUDOR. Is that too slow?
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Feb 3 2015, 18:52
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Colman
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QUOTE(Mr. Buns @ Feb 4 2015, 00:34)  By hellfest you mean grind fest at Hell difficulty or PFUDOR?
Hellfest = GF @ hell QUOTE Anyways I use both holy and dark. Is that a bad thing? Should I just focus my gear to only dark or only holy bonus? You should focus on a single element only. At least for this patch. Spreading your EDB across many elements will make your damage lower than half. QUOTE Yeah I have all of them. I don't fine any use for infusion ans scroll slots though. They provide so little benefit. It take me like 10 to 20 dark/holy spell combos to kill monsters on PFUDOR. Is that too slow?
Less than 20 turns per round in PF is alright. Otherwise, lower the difficulty. Mage should not have long round.
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