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post Jan 30 2015, 22:10
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jan 30 2015, 21:03) *

nice rapier, but personally i suggest you a waki of nimble: BW isn't so strong nowadays (in particular waki's BW), and it's not that 8% more offhand means so much; on the contrary, you may benefit of the bonus parry - but actually it has not to be easy to find an affordable leg waki of nimble. also, butcher on offhand isn't exactly a big result...


Yep, I don't want butcher but....you know IW is like a lottery
I may consider re-do if butcher still comes. but this waki is not more expensive than a few amnesia shards....

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post Jan 30 2015, 22:27
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QUOTE(coreguy @ Jan 30 2015, 21:10) *

Yep, I don't want butcher but....you know IW is like a lottery

yep. i just resetted mine because it had butcher 3 and swift 1 and now it has fatality 2 and swift 1. at this point my next goal is to build a +80% crit DW shade set (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

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but this waki is not more expensive than a few amnesia shards....

really? is waki market really so inflated? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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post Jan 30 2015, 22:37
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jan 30 2015, 21:27) *

really? is waki market really so inflated? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)


guess so. I got this from an auction for just a little above the starting price.
it seems like no one cares about waki. or maybe it is just not good enough. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

these days the hottest gears in auctions are always power slaughter.

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post Jan 30 2015, 22:41
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QUOTE(coreguy @ Jan 30 2015, 21:37) *

guess so. I got this from an auction for just a little above the starting price.
it seems like no one cares about waki. or maybe it is just not good enough. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

wrong suffix, maybe... btw, how does a fleet + negation build work? i was tempted to loan/buy some arcanist + negation pieces to see if it's a bit more viable than 1H + shade of fleet
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post Jan 30 2015, 22:47
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jan 30 2015, 21:41) *

wrong suffix, maybe... btw, how does a fleet + negation build work? i was tempted to loan/buy some arcanist + negation pieces to see if it's a bit more viable than 1H + shade of fleet


A lot of resists and evade. I just want to cover both aspects of avoidance. works fine I think.

My ultimate goal is shadowdancer. but it is really rare and expensive.



actually i don't really understand how resist works.


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post Jan 30 2015, 23:02
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System do 3 rolls.
Successful Rolls Damage Reduction
0 0%
1 50%
2 75%
3 90%

It means f.e. with 50% resist:
12.5% chance to resist 90%
37.5% chance to resist 50%
37.5% chance to resist 75%
12.5% chance to resist 0%.
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post Jan 30 2015, 23:06
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I'm still sitting at 1.33 Forbidden Prof. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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post Jan 31 2015, 00:01
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QUOTE(tetron @ Jan 30 2015, 22:06) *

I'm still sitting at 1.33 Forbidden Prof. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

And me at pack rat 5. Shall we see sho can reach better results? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Jan 31 2015, 00:24
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A bit offtopic, but i was checking bounties (looks quite good, because some rewards is pretty) and noticed almost half of galleries is from ex version. I dont have access to it, so it req some conditions?
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post Jan 31 2015, 00:28
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QUOTE(tetron @ Jan 30 2015, 22:06) *

I'm still sitting at 1.33 Forbidden Prof. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)


0.76 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool2.gif) :smugface:

Unfortunatey I gave in to the popular trend and raised Pack Rat, so now I have lots of unused slots gathering dust... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) :shameonme:
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post Jan 31 2015, 00:41
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yeah another question : concerning the main hand weapon (One Handed Power Heavy mode) i see players use mostly rapiers, is the PA worth more than what you'll get in damage in the other weapons ? or there is another reason that people choose rapiers?
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post Jan 31 2015, 00:48
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QUOTE(tv1990 @ Jan 31 2015, 01:41) *

yeah another question : concerning the main hand weapon (One Handed Power Heavy mode) i see players use mostly rapiers, is the PA worth more than what you'll get in damage in the other weapons ? or there is another reason that people choose rapiers?


Rapier gives huge armor reduction. I dont know exact numbers, but its near x2 damage for me with all 3 stacks. Almost same as full imperil debuff.

Here is example from FSM.
0 stack. crit 5810 (65% bonus damage)
1 stack. 3430-4200.
2 stacks. 6600.
3 stacks. 7400 max.
Max imperil and 3 stacks. 7800-8200, but i think FSM has incredible defense, so it gives additional damage.

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post Jan 31 2015, 00:51
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QUOTE(tv1990 @ Jan 30 2015, 16:41) *

yeah another question : concerning the main hand weapon (One Handed Power Heavy mode) i see players use mostly rapiers, is the PA worth more than what you'll get in damage in the other weapons ? or there is another reason that people choose rapiers?

CODE
17    3    Void Strike crits Ck Eclair for 3024 void damage.
17    2    Holy Strike crits Ck Eclair for 901 holy damage.
17    1    You crit Ck Eclair for 9530 void damage.

16    3    Void Strike crits Ck Eclair for 3444 void damage.
16    2    Holy Strike crits Ck Eclair for 824 holy damage.
16    1    You crit Ck Eclair for 10781 void damage.

15    3    Void Strike hits Ck Eclair for 2815 void damage.
15    2    Holy Strike hits Ck Eclair for 1006 holy damage.
15    1    You hit Ck Eclair for 6168 void damage.

14    3    Void Strike crits Ck Eclair for 2875 void damage.
14    2    Holy Strike crits Ck Eclair for 1026 holy damage.
14    1    You crit Ck Eclair for 9722 void damage.

13    3    Void Strike hits Ck Eclair for 2785 void damage.
13    2    Holy Strike hits Ck Eclair for 1131 holy damage.
13    1    You hit Ck Eclair for 6048 void damage.

>>>>>>12    4    Ck Eclair gains the effect Penetrated Armor.
12    3    Void Strike crits Ck Eclair for 2686 void damage.
12    2    Holy Strike crits Ck Eclair for 685 holy damage.
12    1    You crit Ck Eclair for 6342 void damage.

>>>>>>11    4    Ck Eclair gains the effect Penetrated Armor.
11    3    Void Strike crits Ck Eclair for 1742 void damage.
11    2    Holy Strike crits Ck Eclair for 451 holy damage.
11    1    You crit Ck Eclair for 6277 void damage.

8    3    Void Strike hits Ck Eclair for 1531 void damage.
8    2    Holy Strike hits Ck Eclair for 456 holy damage.
8    1    You hit Ck Eclair for 2920 void damage.

7    3    Void Strike hits Ck Eclair for 1794 void damage.
7    2    Holy Strike hits Ck Eclair for 496 holy damage.
7    1    You hit Ck Eclair for 2920 void damage.

5    3    Void Strike hits Ck Eclair for 2058 void damage.
5    2    Holy Strike hits Ck Eclair for 586 holy damage.
5    1    You hit Ck Eclair for 4151 void damage.

>>>>>>>4    4    Ck Eclair gains the effect Penetrated Armor.
4    3    Void Strike crits Ck Eclair for 933 void damage.
4    2    Holy Strike crits Ck Eclair for 312 holy damage.
4    1    You crit Ck Eclair for 2744 void damage.

I start out critting for 2700 and end with non-crits doing 6200. Effect is even more pronounced on bosses and schoolgirls.

Everything else completely pales in comparison.
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post Jan 31 2015, 00:57
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Jan 31 2015, 01:51) *

CODE
17    3    Void Strike crits Ck Eclair for 3024 void damage.
17    2    Holy Strike crits Ck Eclair for 901 holy damage.
17    1    You crit Ck Eclair for 9530 void damage.

16    3    Void Strike crits Ck Eclair for 3444 void damage.
16    2    Holy Strike crits Ck Eclair for 824 holy damage.
16    1    You crit Ck Eclair for 10781 void damage.

15    3    Void Strike hits Ck Eclair for 2815 void damage.
15    2    Holy Strike hits Ck Eclair for 1006 holy damage.
15    1    You hit Ck Eclair for 6168 void damage.

14    3    Void Strike crits Ck Eclair for 2875 void damage.
14    2    Holy Strike crits Ck Eclair for 1026 holy damage.
14    1    You crit Ck Eclair for 9722 void damage.

13    3    Void Strike hits Ck Eclair for 2785 void damage.
13    2    Holy Strike hits Ck Eclair for 1131 holy damage.
13    1    You hit Ck Eclair for 6048 void damage.

>>>>>>12    4    Ck Eclair gains the effect Penetrated Armor.
12    3    Void Strike crits Ck Eclair for 2686 void damage.
12    2    Holy Strike crits Ck Eclair for 685 holy damage.
12    1    You crit Ck Eclair for 6342 void damage.

>>>>>>11    4    Ck Eclair gains the effect Penetrated Armor.
11    3    Void Strike crits Ck Eclair for 1742 void damage.
11    2    Holy Strike crits Ck Eclair for 451 holy damage.
11    1    You crit Ck Eclair for 6277 void damage.

8    3    Void Strike hits Ck Eclair for 1531 void damage.
8    2    Holy Strike hits Ck Eclair for 456 holy damage.
8    1    You hit Ck Eclair for 2920 void damage.

7    3    Void Strike hits Ck Eclair for 1794 void damage.
7    2    Holy Strike hits Ck Eclair for 496 holy damage.
7    1    You hit Ck Eclair for 2920 void damage.

5    3    Void Strike hits Ck Eclair for 2058 void damage.
5    2    Holy Strike hits Ck Eclair for 586 holy damage.
5    1    You hit Ck Eclair for 4151 void damage.

>>>>>>>4    4    Ck Eclair gains the effect Penetrated Armor.
4    3    Void Strike crits Ck Eclair for 933 void damage.
4    2    Holy Strike crits Ck Eclair for 312 holy damage.
4    1    You crit Ck Eclair for 2744 void damage.

I start out critting for 2700 and end with non-crits doing 6200. Effect is even more pronounced on bosses and schoolgirls.

Everything else completely pales in comparison.


oh wow (note to self : buy a rapier)
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post Jan 31 2015, 02:56
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QUOTE(coreguy @ Jan 30 2015, 21:47) *

My ultimate goal is shadowdancer. but it is really rare and expensive.

not that savage prefix is better actually (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

QUOTE(tv1990 @ Jan 30 2015, 23:57) *

oh wow (note to self : buy a rapier)

yeah, you really should (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Jan 31 2015, 03:37
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Wow this lucky IWing. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Jan 31 2015, 04:32
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QUOTE(TygerTyger @ Jan 31 2015, 03:37) *

Wow this lucky IWing. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


Wow, right after I was thinking you are lucky, I get the same. (for those late, he got 1/1, i got 1/1.)
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post Jan 31 2015, 05:24
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another question : what's the difference between parry evade and block ?
i know counter procs on block and parry and the fact that you ignore damage on these three , is that all or there is more i shall know ?
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post Jan 31 2015, 05:47
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QUOTE(coreguy @ Jan 30 2015, 13:37) *

guess so. I got this from an auction for just a little above the starting price.
it seems like no one cares about waki. or maybe it is just not good enough. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

these days the hottest gears in auctions are always power slaughter.

wakizashis are not good for mainhand, few people use dw/niten. & i care
QUOTE(nec1986 @ Jan 30 2015, 15:24) *

A bit offtopic, but i was checking bounties (looks quite good, because some rewards is pretty) and noticed almost half of galleries is from ex version. I dont have access to it, so it req some conditions?

you need to pass sad panda first, some firefox add-ons can do that, i forgot.
If you have editing & negotiation skill, it's worth more than grinding at some point.

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evade/block: physical & magical
parry: only physical

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post Jan 31 2015, 05:50
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QUOTE(tv1990 @ Jan 30 2015, 21:24) *

another question : what's the difference between parry evade and block ?
i know counter procs on block and parry and the fact that you ignore damage on these three , is that all or there is more i shall know ?

Evade is checked first, so if you evade, you don't even have a chance of counter-attack.

Parry only works on physical attacks. (similarly, Resist only works on magical attacks) Block works both on physical and magical attacks.

Block is by far the best type to value - it works on all attacks and allows for counter-attack.
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