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Jan 30 2015, 22:10
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coreguy
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jan 30 2015, 21:03)  nice rapier, but personally i suggest you a waki of nimble: BW isn't so strong nowadays (in particular waki's BW), and it's not that 8% more offhand means so much; on the contrary, you may benefit of the bonus parry - but actually it has not to be easy to find an affordable leg waki of nimble. also, butcher on offhand isn't exactly a big result...
Yep, I don't want butcher but....you know IW is like a lottery I may consider re-do if butcher still comes. but this waki is not more expensive than a few amnesia shards....
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Jan 30 2015, 22:27
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(coreguy @ Jan 30 2015, 21:10)  Yep, I don't want butcher but....you know IW is like a lottery
yep. i just resetted mine because it had butcher 3 and swift 1 and now it has fatality 2 and swift 1. at this point my next goal is to build a +80% crit DW shade set (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) QUOTE(coreguy @ Jan 30 2015, 21:10)  but this waki is not more expensive than a few amnesia shards....
really? is waki market really so inflated? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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Jan 30 2015, 22:37
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coreguy
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jan 30 2015, 21:27)  really? is waki market really so inflated? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) guess so. I got this from an auction for just a little above the starting price. it seems like no one cares about waki. or maybe it is just not good enough. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) these days the hottest gears in auctions are always power slaughter. This post has been edited by coreguy: Jan 30 2015, 22:41
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Jan 30 2015, 22:41
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(coreguy @ Jan 30 2015, 21:37)  guess so. I got this from an auction for just a little above the starting price. it seems like no one cares about waki. or maybe it is just not good enough. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) wrong suffix, maybe... btw, how does a fleet + negation build work? i was tempted to loan/buy some arcanist + negation pieces to see if it's a bit more viable than 1H + shade of fleet
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Jan 30 2015, 22:47
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coreguy
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jan 30 2015, 21:41)  wrong suffix, maybe... btw, how does a fleet + negation build work? i was tempted to loan/buy some arcanist + negation pieces to see if it's a bit more viable than 1H + shade of fleet
A lot of resists and evade. I just want to cover both aspects of avoidance. works fine I think. My ultimate goal is shadowdancer. but it is really rare and expensive. actually i don't really understand how resist works. This post has been edited by coreguy: Jan 30 2015, 22:56
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Jan 30 2015, 23:02
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nec1986
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System do 3 rolls. Successful Rolls Damage Reduction 0 0% 1 50% 2 75% 3 90%
It means f.e. with 50% resist: 12.5% chance to resist 90% 37.5% chance to resist 50% 37.5% chance to resist 75% 12.5% chance to resist 0%.
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Jan 31 2015, 00:24
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nec1986
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A bit offtopic, but i was checking bounties (looks quite good, because some rewards is pretty) and noticed almost half of galleries is from ex version. I dont have access to it, so it req some conditions?
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Jan 31 2015, 00:41
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tv1990
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yeah another question : concerning the main hand weapon (One Handed Power Heavy mode) i see players use mostly rapiers, is the PA worth more than what you'll get in damage in the other weapons ? or there is another reason that people choose rapiers?
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Jan 31 2015, 00:48
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nec1986
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QUOTE(tv1990 @ Jan 31 2015, 01:41)  yeah another question : concerning the main hand weapon (One Handed Power Heavy mode) i see players use mostly rapiers, is the PA worth more than what you'll get in damage in the other weapons ? or there is another reason that people choose rapiers?
Rapier gives huge armor reduction. I dont know exact numbers, but its near x2 damage for me with all 3 stacks. Almost same as full imperil debuff. Here is example from FSM. 0 stack. crit 5810 (65% bonus damage) 1 stack. 3430-4200. 2 stacks. 6600. 3 stacks. 7400 max. Max imperil and 3 stacks. 7800-8200, but i think FSM has incredible defense, so it gives additional damage. This post has been edited by nec1986: Jan 31 2015, 00:55
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Jan 31 2015, 00:51
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Superlatanium
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QUOTE(tv1990 @ Jan 30 2015, 16:41)  yeah another question : concerning the main hand weapon (One Handed Power Heavy mode) i see players use mostly rapiers, is the PA worth more than what you'll get in damage in the other weapons ? or there is another reason that people choose rapiers?
CODE 17 3 Void Strike crits Ck Eclair for 3024 void damage. 17 2 Holy Strike crits Ck Eclair for 901 holy damage. 17 1 You crit Ck Eclair for 9530 void damage.
16 3 Void Strike crits Ck Eclair for 3444 void damage. 16 2 Holy Strike crits Ck Eclair for 824 holy damage. 16 1 You crit Ck Eclair for 10781 void damage.
15 3 Void Strike hits Ck Eclair for 2815 void damage. 15 2 Holy Strike hits Ck Eclair for 1006 holy damage. 15 1 You hit Ck Eclair for 6168 void damage.
14 3 Void Strike crits Ck Eclair for 2875 void damage. 14 2 Holy Strike crits Ck Eclair for 1026 holy damage. 14 1 You crit Ck Eclair for 9722 void damage.
13 3 Void Strike hits Ck Eclair for 2785 void damage. 13 2 Holy Strike hits Ck Eclair for 1131 holy damage. 13 1 You hit Ck Eclair for 6048 void damage.
>>>>>>12 4 Ck Eclair gains the effect Penetrated Armor. 12 3 Void Strike crits Ck Eclair for 2686 void damage. 12 2 Holy Strike crits Ck Eclair for 685 holy damage. 12 1 You crit Ck Eclair for 6342 void damage.
>>>>>>11 4 Ck Eclair gains the effect Penetrated Armor. 11 3 Void Strike crits Ck Eclair for 1742 void damage. 11 2 Holy Strike crits Ck Eclair for 451 holy damage. 11 1 You crit Ck Eclair for 6277 void damage.
8 3 Void Strike hits Ck Eclair for 1531 void damage. 8 2 Holy Strike hits Ck Eclair for 456 holy damage. 8 1 You hit Ck Eclair for 2920 void damage.
7 3 Void Strike hits Ck Eclair for 1794 void damage. 7 2 Holy Strike hits Ck Eclair for 496 holy damage. 7 1 You hit Ck Eclair for 2920 void damage.
5 3 Void Strike hits Ck Eclair for 2058 void damage. 5 2 Holy Strike hits Ck Eclair for 586 holy damage. 5 1 You hit Ck Eclair for 4151 void damage.
>>>>>>>4 4 Ck Eclair gains the effect Penetrated Armor. 4 3 Void Strike crits Ck Eclair for 933 void damage. 4 2 Holy Strike crits Ck Eclair for 312 holy damage. 4 1 You crit Ck Eclair for 2744 void damage. I start out critting for 2700 and end with non-crits doing 6200. Effect is even more pronounced on bosses and schoolgirls. Everything else completely pales in comparison.
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Jan 31 2015, 00:57
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tv1990
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Jan 31 2015, 01:51)  CODE 17 3 Void Strike crits Ck Eclair for 3024 void damage. 17 2 Holy Strike crits Ck Eclair for 901 holy damage. 17 1 You crit Ck Eclair for 9530 void damage.
16 3 Void Strike crits Ck Eclair for 3444 void damage. 16 2 Holy Strike crits Ck Eclair for 824 holy damage. 16 1 You crit Ck Eclair for 10781 void damage.
15 3 Void Strike hits Ck Eclair for 2815 void damage. 15 2 Holy Strike hits Ck Eclair for 1006 holy damage. 15 1 You hit Ck Eclair for 6168 void damage.
14 3 Void Strike crits Ck Eclair for 2875 void damage. 14 2 Holy Strike crits Ck Eclair for 1026 holy damage. 14 1 You crit Ck Eclair for 9722 void damage.
13 3 Void Strike hits Ck Eclair for 2785 void damage. 13 2 Holy Strike hits Ck Eclair for 1131 holy damage. 13 1 You hit Ck Eclair for 6048 void damage.
>>>>>>12 4 Ck Eclair gains the effect Penetrated Armor. 12 3 Void Strike crits Ck Eclair for 2686 void damage. 12 2 Holy Strike crits Ck Eclair for 685 holy damage. 12 1 You crit Ck Eclair for 6342 void damage.
>>>>>>11 4 Ck Eclair gains the effect Penetrated Armor. 11 3 Void Strike crits Ck Eclair for 1742 void damage. 11 2 Holy Strike crits Ck Eclair for 451 holy damage. 11 1 You crit Ck Eclair for 6277 void damage.
8 3 Void Strike hits Ck Eclair for 1531 void damage. 8 2 Holy Strike hits Ck Eclair for 456 holy damage. 8 1 You hit Ck Eclair for 2920 void damage.
7 3 Void Strike hits Ck Eclair for 1794 void damage. 7 2 Holy Strike hits Ck Eclair for 496 holy damage. 7 1 You hit Ck Eclair for 2920 void damage.
5 3 Void Strike hits Ck Eclair for 2058 void damage. 5 2 Holy Strike hits Ck Eclair for 586 holy damage. 5 1 You hit Ck Eclair for 4151 void damage.
>>>>>>>4 4 Ck Eclair gains the effect Penetrated Armor. 4 3 Void Strike crits Ck Eclair for 933 void damage. 4 2 Holy Strike crits Ck Eclair for 312 holy damage. 4 1 You crit Ck Eclair for 2744 void damage. I start out critting for 2700 and end with non-crits doing 6200. Effect is even more pronounced on bosses and schoolgirls. Everything else completely pales in comparison. oh wow (note to self : buy a rapier)
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Jan 31 2015, 02:56
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(coreguy @ Jan 30 2015, 21:47)  My ultimate goal is shadowdancer. but it is really rare and expensive.
not that savage prefix is better actually (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) QUOTE(tv1990 @ Jan 30 2015, 23:57)  oh wow (note to self : buy a rapier)
yeah, you really should (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Jan 31 2015, 03:37
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TygerTyger
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Jan 31 2015, 04:32
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m118w11
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QUOTE(TygerTyger @ Jan 31 2015, 03:37)  Wow, right after I was thinking you are lucky, I get the same. (for those late, he got 1/1, i got 1/1.)
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Jan 31 2015, 05:24
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tv1990
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another question : what's the difference between parry evade and block ? i know counter procs on block and parry and the fact that you ignore damage on these three , is that all or there is more i shall know ?
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Jan 31 2015, 05:47
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Dead-ed
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QUOTE(coreguy @ Jan 30 2015, 13:37)  guess so. I got this from an auction for just a little above the starting price. it seems like no one cares about waki. or maybe it is just not good enough. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) these days the hottest gears in auctions are always power slaughter. wakizashis are not good for mainhand, few people use dw/niten. & i care QUOTE(nec1986 @ Jan 30 2015, 15:24)  A bit offtopic, but i was checking bounties (looks quite good, because some rewards is pretty) and noticed almost half of galleries is from ex version. I dont have access to it, so it req some conditions?
you need to pass sad panda first, some firefox add-ons can do that, i forgot. If you have editing & negotiation skill, it's worth more than grinding at some point. ---- evade/block: physical & magical parry: only physical This post has been edited by Dead-ed: Jan 31 2015, 05:52
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Jan 31 2015, 05:50
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Superlatanium
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QUOTE(tv1990 @ Jan 30 2015, 21:24)  another question : what's the difference between parry evade and block ? i know counter procs on block and parry and the fact that you ignore damage on these three , is that all or there is more i shall know ?
Evade is checked first, so if you evade, you don't even have a chance of counter-attack. Parry only works on physical attacks. (similarly, Resist only works on magical attacks) Block works both on physical and magical attacks. Block is by far the best type to value - it works on all attacks and allows for counter-attack.
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