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you speak about 2m as if they were chips (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

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dunno, for example, give me some ideas that may help me in selling something (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

New idea: Find some obsolete BC gears. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Personally, I prefer maximizing damage with DW. The style only hit one monster per turn!

Isn't that what DW's specialty is? (except for it's Skills) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

For those who blast through arena easily at higher than Hell,
if melee, what's your defense stat (PMI, MMI, parry, and such)? (no 1H pls)
if mage, what's your damage?

For now, since stats of equipments scale with Levels, defense increases naturally as you level up. For example, when you reach Lv.300, you can clear all the Arena (except the last 3) in IWBTH/PFUDOR even without 1H style.

I hear super high level people like grinding PFDOR grindfests for some reason... what is that reason?

drops? exp? crystals? what?

1. Drops - Higher difficulty results in higher quality drops. And this "Higher Quality" is not limited to Equipment Drops. For example, if you play in IWBTH or PFUDOR you'll get frequent "Heroic" Potion drops, while if you play in Hell difficulty, you'll get frequent "Lesser" Potion drops.

2. EXP - One of the things EXP gain depends on is the number of monsters faced in one round. Grindfest usually have an average of ~9 monsters per round, rather than the fixed amount of 5/6 monsters from Arena. So...

3. Crystals - Monster Lab is expensive, trust me. Those who want to have a high level army must farm crystals from Grindfest.

Also, token drop feel more frequent. Can't back it with statistic though...

Token drop is far better in the Arena than Grindfest. For example, even without any Tokenizer Hath Perk, I get around ~20 tokens per day just from Arena.

something like wind can be better than any other elemental.

That's differs. Like how I find Elec to be more effective than Wind. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

A non-1h melee makes things significantly tougher than they need to be (without top-tier gear), with the main benefit just being bragging rights (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Nope. DW is also very good, if not as good as 1H. 2H on the other hand is the Joke of the Year. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

I've heard that mage can clear 2x or 3x faster than melee, but they also need an extraordinary set of equipment plus full IW to survive at the highest difficulty. High level is also required for lower T3 cooldowns and 0 CD Imperil. Without all of those, melee is significantly more effective - so I've heard.

2x/3x? Nope. It's even faster. But yes, high quality equipments are a must for IWBTH and PFUDOR.

0 Cooldown Imperil is the best friend of Elemental Mages. But since casting it every time requires some work other than Mouse-Up-Mouse-Down, most people tend to ignore it. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Which database are you using?

There is only one publicly available Database of Hentaiverse Monsters. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Have you tried infusions? Adding holy or dark strike on your katana for 30? min is a great help in taking down schoolgirls faster.

i suggest dark, which has the double effect of literally smoothing the way against celestials/sprites (and humanoids, while we're at it) as well (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
the only problem will be undeads (which are resistant to holy and have void attacks), but nobody's perfect afterall (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

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funny thing, chips are potatoes which can be translated in italian as 'patata', that also is a colloquial way to say 'vagina'. so yes, it wouldn't be better to have some chips here atm. just saying (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

That's differs. Like how I find Elec to be more effective than Wind. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

mage only, right?

Nope. DW is also very good, if not as good as 1H.

are you sure? currently i have to put quite some effort to lose in PF REs in 1H suit, while it's not so easy to win them in DW. or that i became dumb... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

This post has been edited by Scremaz: Jan 29 2015, 18:45

My set for spamming spells on nintendo (4 turns/round on avg.)
Staff
Cap
Robe
Gloves
Pants
Shoes

Hath perks:
IA 3 (only IA1 is required for Spark, other 2 are optional but increases efficiency especially at low levels)
VV (optional: used to reduce amount of heals required)

Scripts:
Spellspam (set to stop spell spam at certain hp %)
Auto next round

Trainings:
No pack rats required (I use around 5-6 mp potions with econ 5)

You can probably immitate the above with a dark set with a willow/kata staff.
If you pick up cheap exq rad pieces and get cheap prof clothes you can probably get the above set for a bit less than a 1h set (exq eth rapier of slaughter + Mmax block force shield + set of 3 PAB with good adb power slaughter)

Note: level of character may affect performance.
Note2: Pick non-holy prefix oak staves carefully, aim for lmax mdb, edb, wis, int, prof (in that order)
Note3: Legendary prof cloth is not required, I'm just planning to forge 2 pieces and get hath perk to get near 100% prof

This post has been edited by cirrux: Jan 29 2015, 18:48

which means something like other 5M, less or more... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

A decent non-prefix oak costs at most 1m.
Prof cloth costs next to nothing, 3 pieces for around 60k total
2 pieces of rad. phase: 1m (alternative is mmax edb which costs around the same or a bit more)
-If you aren't crazy about having Emax edb like me, then smax edb with good pabs will probably cost even less (around 500k for 2 pieces I guess)
cost for forging everything: 1m will net good results already (diminishing returns)

so yeah around 3m

This post has been edited by cirrux: Jan 29 2015, 19:04

the only problem will be undeads (which are resistant to holy and have void attacks), but nobody's perfect afterall (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Undeads are resistant to Dark, not Holy. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

funny thing, chips are potatoes which can be translated in italian as 'patata', that also is a colloquial way to say 'vagina'. so yes, it wouldn't be better to have some chips here atm. just saying (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

I'm so gonna discus about this info with my friends! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

mage only, right?

For Elemental Mage, I found Elec to be better than Wind.
For melee, Elec Strike and Wind Strike has about equal performance.

are you sure? currently i have to put quite some effort to lose in PF REs in 1H suit, while it's not so easy to win them in DW. or that i became dumb... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Try this setup:

Rapier of Slaughter (Mainhand)
Wakizashi of Nimble (Offhand)
4x Shade Negation
1x Reinforced Leather of Protection

This post has been edited by tetron: Jan 29 2015, 19:04

Undeads are resistant to Dark, not Holy. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

yup. my bad

I'm so gonna discus about this info with my friends! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

if you need other infos on italian colloquial slang, feel free to ask (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Try this setup:

Rapier of Slaughter (Mainhand)
Wakizashi of Nimble (Offhand)
4x Shade Negation
1x Reinforced Leather of Protection

i was going to try shade of negation with 1H rather than fleet, so i guess it's time to open a wishlist.
also, it seems that rapier of slaughter+waki of nimble combo is still better than club of slaughter+rapier of nimble, but it may also be due to IW rapier... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

if you need other infos on italian colloquial slang, feel free to ask (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Speaking slang, BC is one in my mother tongue. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

i was going to try shade of negation with 1H rather than fleet, so i guess it's time to open a wishlist.
also, it seems that rapier of slaughter+waki of nimble combo is still better than club of slaughter+rapier of nimble, but it may also be due to IW rapier... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Club+Rapier combo is good when you encounter near max PL mobs, but it lacks Parry and Attack Speed.
Point to be noted, Wakizashi also has much higher AGI than Club.

Speaking slang, BC is one in my mother tongue. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

explain.

explain.

Equivalent of "MF". (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

Equivalent of "MF". (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

which is 'my friend', right? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

First of all, hello (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I'm new to the forum(this is my first post), and I wanted to ask how can my character last longer on grindfests and item worlds.

Is item world worth for my equipment? Should I be doing it with 'superior' equipment?

Main problem is, I can't go farther than level(+/-) 27~30 without running low on mana for heals.

As you can see I was using one-handed equips and every kind of equipment I could find at the start because I was new. After some research I've switched to DW.

What is better for high level grindfests? dw or 2h?

How can I make my character better? I'ts a problem when there are 5+ monsters and I don't one-shot one per round.

My stats:


My equipment:


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This post has been edited by Evilif: Jan 29 2015, 20:27

which is 'my friend', right? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

You are a genius. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

First of all, hello (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I'm new to the forum(this is my first post), and I wanted to ask how can my character last longer on grindfests and item worlds.

Is item world worth for my equipment? Should I be doing it with 'superior' equipment?

Main problem is, I can't go farther than level(+/-) 27~30 without running low on mana for heals.

As you can see I was using one-handed equips and every kind of equipment I could find at the start because I was new. After some research I've switched to DW.

What is better for high level grindfests? dw or 2h?

How can I make my character better? I'ts a problem when there are 5+ monsters and I don't one-shot one per round.

i wouldn't really bother with GF at your level, unless it is to earn some cheap EXP when you already finished all arenas. not as a primary goal, then: your priority is arenas and REs to level up faster.
then, you may train some levels of pack rat to bring more potions in battle, thus to raise your autonomy

1H is a good style, but not at low levels. for starters i suggest 2H (either longsword or mace) with leather armors, which is efficient and also quite cheap. DW may be viable too, but on a lesser extent

IW isn't worth as well, since you either lack the resources to do it proficiently or (i think - feel free to prove me wrong (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ) decent gears to IW

You are a genius. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

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My stats:


My equipment:


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oh, here come stats, there weren't before (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

shade is a sort of elitarian light armor, and as such it should be used on higher levels: surely it will raise a bit your firepower, but you have to give up on some mitigations to achieve it, and at low levels (when you struggle to remain alive) it can make the difference. try some 4PAB leather of protection/warding and it should be better

also, raise DEX at the same level of STR, some other END points and WIS at the same level of END

I wanted to ask how can my character last longer on grindfests and item worlds.

Both grindfest and item world are useful for high-level players (200+), but for other players, you'll get more rewards through Arena and random encounters. But if you run out of Arenas to play and still want to do more in the day, go ahead and do Grindfest for more XP if you want.

Is item world worth for my equipment? Should I be doing it with 'superior' equipment?

Consider that item world services usually cost (are worth) 200k-400k credits. So unless your equipment is at least that valuable, it's not worth it.

Main problem is, I can't go farther than level(+/-) 27~30 without running low on mana for heals.

Your Wisdom is zero. Wisdom is essential for any player regardless of style - it increases base mana points, allowing you to Cure more before you run out of mana and mana pots and die. Your Wisdom should be close to the level of your other important stats.

What is better for high level grindfests? dw or 2h?

How can I make my character better? I'ts a problem when there are 5+ monsters and I don't one-shot one per round.

Don't worry about grindfest, just do Arenas/REs for now.

Already did all arenas I could.
I was looking for shade equipment for it's evade and because it has no burden.
I could level my sword to '1' on item world... didn't notice much change. Gonna skip that for now then since you all say that's not very important.
Grindfests are my main source of exp atm, since random encounters only happen once every 30 minutes.

Another question...
How can I get legendary or better quality equipment?

Thanks for all your answers!
(Gonna try using some exp for wisdom, that may be useful)

Edit: Another question!
Do random encounters consume more stamina then grindfests?
Because every round gives me 150~250 exp.
And a random encounter gave me around 800.

This post has been edited by Evilif: Jan 29 2015, 20:54

I was looking for shade equipment for it's evade and because it has no burden.

At your level, evade isn't all that great - I agree with Scremaz, basic 4 PAB leather will give you better damage and survivability.

I could level my sword to '1' on item world... didn't notice much change. Gonna skip that for now then since you all say that's not very important.

The change is only really noticeable at level 10 with Void / extra strike, and to get to 10 requires much more time (or money) than you can spend right now.

Another question...
How can I get legendary or better quality equipment?

By either buying it from other players, or by getting extraordinarily lucky, or by playing 500+ rounds a day on PFUDOR (which is probably where most of the equipment in circulation in HV comes from).

Do random encounters consume more stamina then grindfests?

No, the same. And since RE is only one round, it's not even noticeable.

Laaast question for now (At least I think it is)

If I become a mage... can I one-shot like 10 monsters on the easiest diff setting on my level? Would I be able to get to high levels or farm faster anywhere?

Was thinking about changing to mage since I started. I just didn't do it because the wiki says melee can get higher on grindfests.

Laaast question for now (At least I think it is)

If I become a mage... can I one-shot like 10 monsters on the easiest diff setting on my level? Would I be able to get to high levels or farm faster anywhere?

Was thinking about changing to mage since I started. I just didn't do it because the wiki says melee can get higher on grindfests.

It takes high level and high proficiency to access spells that have a whole lot of targets. I'm probably going to wait for 400 to start maging because that's when 10-target low-cooldown spells are usable via ability. For you, even basic level 2 (4 or 6 target) elemental spells require level 100.

Melee can handle significantly higher difficulties before you get high level and high gear.