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I always thought it would take longer to level and id be poor forever but ive been playing actively (only really doing arenas everyday, no grindfests) for the past 4 or so days and ive gone up about 60 levels and made a million credits, pretty good id say.

To commemorate this event ive decided to get an avatar lols.

This post has been edited by mastaninja: Jan 23 2015, 06:52

I always thought it would take longer to level and id be poor forever but ive been playing actively (only really doing arenas everyday, no grindfests) for the past 4 or so days and ive gone up about 60 levels and made a million credits, pretty good id say.

To commemorate this event ive decided to get an avatar lols.

may i ask which fighting style you use and which difficulty you play on arena?

Don't worry about specific grinding for melee builds, just play as you normally would and suffer slightly less performance for 1 level, by 307 you will probably have the proficiency maxed.

Wow. It's really painful when my almost maxed Heavy HP ability just gives me 7 more HP. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

made a million credits in 4 days

How did you manage that? Arena first win bonuses and ring of blood bonuses or lucky gear drops?

in 4 days is more or less ok, but i heard its possible to farm 1m in 1 day.

in 4 days is more or less ok, but i heard its possible to farm 1m in 1 day.

Actually how normal player start to earn credits/build up the credits?

in 4 days is more or less ok, but i heard its possible to farm 1m in 1 day.

it's not difficult, earning 140 Hath is enough (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Actually how normal player start to earn credits/build up the credits?

mostly, by Not playing the game. running H@H, doing bounties, sharing stuff, donating, making torrents, etc, etc, etc.

though, from pure play, you can do every arena @Hell, you'll get ~100-120k in pure credits + ~25k in trophies + ~50k in equipment drops + ~25k in scrolls/infusions/shards/etc = ~200-220k/day. if you factor in RE + Ring of Bloods + "cookie" that's another ~50k/day. so ~250-270k/day. do that 7 days/wk = 1.75-1.89 mil/wk.

though, you get burnout pretty fast doing that. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

mostly, by Not playing the game. running H@H, doing bounties, sharing stuff, donating, making torrents, etc, etc, etc.

though, from pure play, you can do every arena @Hell, you'll get ~100-120k in pure credits + ~25k in trophies + ~50k in equipment drops + ~25k in scrolls/infusions/shards/etc = ~200-220k/day. if you factor in RE + Ring of Bloods + "cookie" that's another ~50k/day. so ~250-270k/day. do that 7 days/wk = 1.75-1.89 mil/wk.

though, you get burnout pretty fast doing that. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

may i why is hell lvl?

I guess, when you're trying to optimise for credits earned (as opposed to efficient usage of stamina, or exp maximization), it is because
- it is assumed that nobody has time to complete all the arenas at PFUDOR everyday. Lower difficulty = shorter time.
- Hell is the minimum difficulty that would not attract a penalty for excessive play

I guess, when you're trying to optimise for credits earned (as opposed to efficient usage of stamina, or exp maximization), it is because
- it is assumed that nobody has time to complete all the arenas at PFUDOR everyday. Lower difficulty = shorter time.
- Hell is the minimum difficulty that would not attract a penalty for excessive play

Gotta, i dont know before...
just clear the arena@Hard...

Actually how normal player start to earn credits/build up the credits?

From mobs and specially iwbth or pf difficulty (x3 credits, nintendo x2, nightmare x1.5, normal x1). F.e. im getting near 30k from 25-50 rounds arena on pf. Its near 24k credits drop (around 21.5 from each mob) and 6k clear bonus. Also i noticed its near 1 precursor artifact (additional 14k). Of course equip, blood tokens, some scrolls and food, crystals, pots. A bit harder to count average value, but its definitely 10k+. So overall is already 54k+. Its also possible to do normal for rly fast result or f.e. hell with near same time spending. And after 225 its also schoolgirls with additional gold and trophies (each near 400-800 and overall from all 3 is near 40 as i remember, so its up to 32k).

About loot. Chance is stable and affected only by monster powerlevel (((PL - 500) / 50); capped at 15%), scavenger training (full is only additional 2.5%) and bonus from final round of arena or random encounter. Base is 10%. Gold drop is also stable (~20%) and is not affected by anything. Only difficulty modifier for amount. But again, if i had 24k with x3 than on normal with x1 it d be 8k and overall dropped from 54k+ to 38k+ while req time in 3 times lower. Its much better credits/time ratio with a bit lower max. Difficulty affects only this, amount of crystals (quite low credits gain) and average quality of equip drop. A bit hard to count, but i d say its near 3-5k.

So its not so hard to get something like 250k per day. Just clear all arenas on PF and sell equip/artifacts/trophies. Its near 4h or maybe a bit more. Much easier to do same on low difficulte in 1.5hour and get still decent amount. But with lower than 80 stamina, because it reduce to 50 rounds/1 point ratio. Without additional exp and on low difficulte without exp at all. I d not do this before 300 lvl. F.e. i was doing max possible difficulte for maximum exp gain and after i noticed i have rly good gold gain (after 225-250lvl). I was spending many credits on training (50-100k+ each day) and each new day i had same balance. But the reason for not doing low difficulty is good stat/prof scaling. I had huge increase in 200-250 range, still solid in 250-300 range and almost nothing from 300-325. And another reason is price scaling. Good set cost only 1-2m. Maybe also a bit for upgrade. After that for small overall upgrade in few % needs to spend another 1-2m each step. So its much better to get 300 (also open dance with dragons) with focusing on exp. Btw, buy good set before, f.e. 1h+power slaughter. Pretty piece cost only 200-300k and some is very-very available. As i remember i got this leggings for 50k.
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=2d5bbad3b3
So i had 2.5m before, 1.5m after (full equip upgrade) and i got more than 30% attack increase with some defence increase. I was thinking...why? why i didnt do it before. I had so many credits, i dont know where to spend it and missed so good opportunity.

This post has been edited by nec1986: Jan 23 2015, 12:59

it's not difficult, earning 140 Hath is enough (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

H@H?

H@H?

yep. just FYI, there are at least 30 people with such availability

in 4 days is more or less ok, but i heard its possible to farm 1m in 1 day.

I used to get ~500k per days when my connection is around 1 turn per second. If my connection is good (2 turns per second). 1m per day is not hard.

yep. just FYI, there are at least 30 people with such availability

How do you figure that?

Not that I doubt that, but I'm curious whether there's a relationship between toplist score and hath earned, or if these statistics were announced somewhere previously.

This post has been edited by mozilla browser: Jan 23 2015, 14:25

Looks like the experts aren't around at the moment. But I think it's worth going to auction.

As a holy mage, I dun think it is attractive. At least for my level.
May be able to sell for 50k-200k.

I think it's good auction and holy mage bait. If only it had better edb. However, the name itself and the M damage should fetch some good money, throw it to auction

A staff with similar stats to yours sold at 50k in the auction: https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=174402

ST04 Magnificent Hallowed Oak Staff of Heimdall MMax MDB
Current bid: 50k atomicpuppy

imo an MHOH should have ~Emax MDB and at least 31+ EDB to be considered decent, unfortunately yours 28, so...
FYI for some reason the roll of MDB of a MHOH tends to be "looks good", but it's kinda a trap when choosing a MHOH, because the difference of Mmax MDB and Emax MDB of a MHOH is merely 0.8x, which is quite small. (maybe even Emax-1 MDB is okay, the more important stat is EDB for a MHOH)

Thanks to all for your insight, especially djack with all the numbers as I learnt a thing or two about mages eq (probably).

Playing a mage is like so complicated which is probably why I won't be one that soon (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Just started playing the game, what's the best way to level up.

How do you figure that?

Not that I doubt that, but I'm curious whether there's a relationship between toplist score and hath earned, or if these statistics were announced somewhere previously.

i am one of the four dark rulers of this site! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool2.gif)


if you check H@H all-time toplist you can see that ai is #33 and he says in his sig that he earns 110-something hath/day, which are less or more 800k.
btw, in 2015 he's "only" #55, that means either he shut down some servers or the number of hath barons is growing

[edit]: interesting, you aren't so far from him...

Just started playing the game, what's the best way to level up.

doing all arenas and as much REs as possible at the highest difficult possible

This post has been edited by Scremaz: Jan 23 2015, 15:04

From mobs and specially iwbth or pf difficulty (x3 credits, nintendo x2, nightmare x1.5, normal x1). F.e. im getting near 30k from 25-50 rounds arena on pf. Its near 24k credits drop (around 21.5 from each mob) and 6k clear bonus. Also i noticed its near 1 precursor artifact (additional 14k). Of course equip, blood tokens, some scrolls and food, crystals, pots. A bit harder to count average value, but its definitely 10k+. So overall is already 54k+. Its also possible to do normal for rly fast result or f.e. hell with near same time spending. And after 225 its also schoolgirls with additional gold and trophies (each near 400-800 and overall from all 3 is near 40 as i remember, so its up to 32k).

About loot. Chance is stable and affected only by monster powerlevel (((PL - 500) / 50); capped at 15%), scavenger training (full is only additional 2.5%) and bonus from final round of arena or random encounter. Base is 10%. Gold drop is also stable (~20%) and is not affected by anything. Only difficulty modifier for amount. But again, if i had 24k with x3 than on normal with x1 it d be 8k and overall dropped from 54k+ to 38k+ while req time in 3 times lower. Its much better credits/time ratio with a bit lower max. Difficulty affects only this, amount of crystals (quite low credits gain) and average quality of equip drop. A bit hard to count, but i d say its near 3-5k.

So its not so hard to get something like 250k per day. Just clear all arenas on PF and sell equip/artifacts/trophies. Its near 4h or maybe a bit more. Much easier to do same on low difficulte in 1.5hour and get still decent amount. But with lower than 80 stamina, because it reduce to 50 rounds/1 point ratio. Without additional exp and on low difficulte without exp at all. I d not do this before 300 lvl. F.e. i was doing max possible difficulte for maximum exp gain and after i noticed i have rly good gold gain (after 225-250lvl). I was spending many credits on training (50-100k+ each day) and each new day i had same balance. But the reason for not doing low difficulty is good stat/prof scaling. I had huge increase in 200-250 range, still solid in 250-300 range and almost nothing from 300-325. And another reason is price scaling. Good set cost only 1-2m. Maybe also a bit for upgrade. After that for small overall upgrade in few % needs to spend another 1-2m each step. So its much better to get 300 (also open dance with dragons) with focusing on exp. Btw, buy good set before, f.e. 1h+power slaughter. Pretty piece cost only 200-300k and some is very-very available. As i remember i got this leggings for 50k.
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=2d5bbad3b3
So i had 2.5m before, 1.5m after (full equip upgrade) and i got more than 30% attack increase with some defence increase. I was thinking...why? why i didnt do it before. I had so many credits, i dont know where to spend it and missed so good opportunity.

so the better way is to buy a good set first and start the building right?
i will try arena@hell to see how much time is needed more and can i handle it within certain time
thanks again for the details advances!