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Jan 13 2015, 07:43
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qazwsxefc
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Hello, just wondering how hard Real Life in Ring of Blood is, and what is the recommended level? Thanks! :
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Jan 13 2015, 08:01
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colosseum_guy
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QUOTE(qazwsxefc @ Jan 12 2015, 23:43)  Hello, just wondering how hard Real Life in Ring of Blood is, and what is the recommended level? Thanks! :
What do you mean by "hard"? 1. When you're at full hp, you got killed in one turn? =>Spark of Life unlocks at the same level as Real Life. 2. Can't keep the HP at a reasonable level? =>If you can't do it with haste+protection+regen+HealthPotion, then your base defense is not good enough (Mit, Evade, whatever) 3.Everything's fine, until all pots and MP/SP runs out? =>Pack Rat? Heroic Potions? Not enough damage (even in spirit stance)? Killing too slow or run out too quickly? FYI 2H Mace is slow, in case that's what you're using.
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Jan 13 2015, 08:58
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showoff
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QUOTE(colosseum_guy @ Jan 13 2015, 06:01)  What do you mean by "hard"?
1. When you're at full hp, you got killed in one turn? =>Spark of Life unlocks at the same level as Real Life.
2. Can't keep the HP at a reasonable level? =>If you can't do it with haste+protection+regen+HealthPotion, then your base defense is not good enough (Mit, Evade, whatever)
3.Everything's fine, until all pots and MP/SP runs out? =>Pack Rat? Heroic Potions? Not enough damage (even in spirit stance)? Killing too slow or run out too quickly? FYI 2H Mace is slow, in case that's what you're using.
Similar question here (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) Can i calculate the attack range of the mobs of ring of blood? Is it different difficulty just time the no.? X2,X4,X6...etc.?
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Jan 13 2015, 09:07
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colosseum_guy
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QUOTE(showoff @ Jan 13 2015, 00:58)  Similar question here (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) Can i calculate the attack range of the mobs of ring of blood? Is it different difficulty just time the no.? X2,X4,X6...etc.? http://ehwiki.org/wiki/HentaiVerse_SettingsMonster Damage: x1~x3 Monster Power Level: +0~+125(guess) While stats of bosses are estimates only, it's either rough guessing or log them with your death? Personally I'm finding my most suitable difficulty on Triple Trio too (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Jan 13 2015, 11:08
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(qazwsxefc @ Jan 13 2015, 06:43)  Hello, just wondering how hard Real Life in Ring of Blood is, and what is the recommended level? Thanks! :
QUOTE(showoff @ Jan 13 2015, 07:58)  Similar question here (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) Can i calculate the attack range of the mobs of ring of blood? Is it different difficulty just time the no.? X2,X4,X6...etc.? for both's sake, it's highly suggested to do them the first time on normal difficulty for the clear bonus only and then forget about them. the only ones worth re-doing are FSM for noodlies (whenever there's someone who buys them)/granted token drop and IPU for horns (there's always someone buying them at decent prices). all the others aren't worth the effort
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Jan 13 2015, 11:46
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nec1986
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So i think dovahkiin title not worth spot? I mean godslayer gives 10% constant passive damage.
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Jan 13 2015, 12:03
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Jan 13 2015, 10:46)  So i think dovahkiin title not worth spot? I mean godslayer gives 10% constant passive damage.
if you have the chance to earn it, go on and do it. it's still better to have it rather than not, since you may see it as a cheap alternative to OFC; also, it seems almost mandatory to be able to proficiently use DW nowadays. though whether you'll actually use it or not it's a whole other matter (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Jan 13 2015, 12:08
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Dead-ed
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Jan 13 2015, 02:46)  So i think dovahkiin title not worth spot? I mean godslayer gives 10% constant passive damage.
for non-1h it's worth it. You can see some people still use the title, i even saw danixxx using dovahkiin some ages ago. I don't feel significant difference with that 10% damage though, it's way slower without it. Cure~ cure~
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Jan 13 2015, 12:17
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nec1986
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I got that. It was quite long run with many focus and ragnarok restoration, but even without ss. I noticed its very safe. But i checked skill...damage actually is quite low. Without penetration stacks its only near 10k per each mob and my ordinary hit is 15-30k. It also cost 100OC. Probably quite bad for 1h, because i already have stun.
This post has been edited by nec1986: Jan 13 2015, 12:18
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Jan 13 2015, 12:20
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m118w11
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Jan 13 2015, 11:46)  So i think dovahkiin title not worth spot? I mean godslayer gives 10% constant passive damage.
I think it is pretty bad. I tested using it nearly every round in hellfest, it wasn't faster and was too finicky. There are builds where you use it to keep monsters stunned 90% of the time though (usually extremely high attack speed with 2h or Ninten I believe). Edit:grammar This post has been edited by m118w11: Jan 13 2015, 12:21
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Jan 13 2015, 12:23
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Dead-ed
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That's why i like skyward sword with fast oc refill & recommend niten to have 200 oc when entering new round. Those 5x3stacks pa + frd
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Jan 13 2015, 13:59
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showoff
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jan 13 2015, 09:08)  for both's sake, it's highly suggested to do them the first time on normal difficulty for the clear bonus only and then forget about them. the only ones worth re-doing are FSM for noodlies (whenever there's someone who buys them)/granted token drop and IPU for horns (there's always someone buying them at decent prices). all the others aren't worth the effort
thx for suggestion!
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Jan 13 2015, 16:40
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Superlatanium
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QUOTE(qazwsxefc @ Jan 12 2015, 23:43)  Hello, just wondering how hard Real Life in Ring of Blood is, and what is the recommended level? Thanks! :
QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jan 13 2015, 03:08)  for both's sake, it's highly suggested to do them the first time on normal difficulty for the clear bonus only and then forget about them. You have the option of waiting until you know you're capable of handling them at the highest difficulty possible (for the slightly increased chance of a good equipment drop) but 99% of the time it'll be crap anyway so it isn't much worth worrying about, especially if you want the credit bonus ASAP. I waited to do Triple Trio until yesterday and got a useless Magnificent out of it... YMMV. QUOTE(coreguy @ Jan 12 2015, 22:05)  actually i feel it is not a strict positive-slope straight line take 50 rounds as an example, the hardest part is at about 35-45 then the difficulty seems to drop a little in the last a few rounds.
Difficulty (damage) always increases in each round in IW.
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Jan 13 2015, 20:19
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nec1986
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Tried 2h longsword with heavy power slaughter...and that was epic fail. Cure every move. Probably its available only with mace and decent resist+evade.
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Jan 13 2015, 20:43
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Jan 13 2015, 19:19)  Tried 2h longsword with heavy power slaughter...and that was epic fail. Cure every move. Probably its available only with mace and decent resist+evade.
longsword is currently useful only for really low-levels because it has the highest possible damage of 2H weapons, at your level estoc should be a better choice. also, to have resist and/or evade you have to go with leather/shade of fleet/shade of negation
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Jan 14 2015, 00:06
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qazwsxefc
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Slight edit to my question before- If I am able to beat the level 100 arena easily on normal, will I also be able t beat Real Life in Ring of Blood on normal? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)
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Jan 14 2015, 00:07
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Mantra64
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Reforged the Rapier and got some SS and Fatality potencies. And also the Holy Strike instead of Cold Strike. So I guess that it was worth doing the whole IW run again. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Legendary Ethereal Rapier of BalanceThis post has been edited by Mantra64: Jan 14 2015, 00:08
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Jan 14 2015, 00:16
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Dan31
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QUOTE(qazwsxefc @ Jan 13 2015, 23:06)  Slight edit to my question before- If I am able to beat the level 100 arena easily on normal, will I also be able t beat Real Life in Ring of Blood on normal? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) Probably, yes. Use spark of life to be on the safe side. Penetrated Armor and/or Imperil make the job easier, bosses usually have huge mitigations. Don't forget to use Weaken. QUOTE(Mantra64 @ Jan 13 2015, 23:07)  Reforged the Rapier and got some SS and Fatality potencies. And also the Holy Strike instead of Cold Strike. So I guess that it was worth doing the whole IW run again. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Legendary Ethereal Rapier of BalanceIt looks very nice. Congrats. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) This post has been edited by Dan31: Jan 14 2015, 00:18
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Jan 14 2015, 04:41
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Superlatanium
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It feels a bit weird for me to say that defense doesn't seem to matter at all anymore as 1h/heavy. Even with only mostly unupgraded Superior/Exquisite gear, everything is easy except for 1000 round grindfest. I didn't expect to be in this situation - I'm guessing this is why damage is nearly the only valued stat in melee equips?
What sort of things are required for a mage to perform somewhere near the level of 1h/heavy? I think I remember a few posters saying to wait until level 400 due to a targeting bug (negated by L400 ability) but that's so far away and I'm not even sure they were serious. Also, having the right equipment is a whole lot more important with a mage than with melee, right?
It's taking me some time to adjust to having to Cure every other turn compared to almost never using it before.
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Jan 14 2015, 05:02
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akiba-kei
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Hello, which kind armor do you recommend me with Dual W? And what kind of weapon with heavy armor? thxc in advance (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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