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Is my PA distribution fine for a melee build?

Strength 234 +178
Dexterity 219 +143
Agility 227 +118
Endurance 234
Intelligence 139
Wisdom 191

just passed trio and the tree on hell
2h, quite safe, but often void+wind strike deals very little damage. I have to rely on skills.
I hope it is not that i made mistake in PA distribution.

2h proficiency is about 135

This post has been edited by coreguy: Jan 12 2015, 17:33

Good day, I'm new to the game and I just want to know
if the Grand Masters have any general advice for a Niten Ichiryu user.
Stats, equipments & all. Thank you.



Equipment:
Average Katana of Slaughter
Superior Wakizashi of Balance
Fair Leather Helmet of Warding
Fair Leather Breastplate of Warding
Fair Leather Gauntlets of Warding
Fair Leather Leggings of Deflection
Average Leather Boots of the Thunder-Child

Is my PA distribution fine for a melee build?

Strength 234 +178
Dexterity 219 +143
Agility 227 +118
Endurance 234
Intelligence 139
Wisdom 191

just passed trio and the tree on hell
2h, quite safe, but often void+wind strike deals very little damage. I have to rely on skills.
I hope it is not that i made mistake in PA distribution.

2h proficiency is about 135

The distribution looks okay, but you need to find equipment with 4 PABs.

In 2H style, strikes are only applied to the main target. Stun is very useful, but you have to rely on the T2 skill and Imperil to boost your damage.

I suggest you to try out 1H (Rapier of Slaughter + Force Shield + Power armor set).

Good day, I'm new to the game and I just want to know
if the Grand Masters have any general advice for a Niten Ichiryu user.
Stats, equipments & all. Thank you.



Equipment:
Average Katana of Slaughter
Superior Wakizashi of Balance
Fair Leather Helmet of Warding
Fair Leather Breastplate of Warding
Fair Leather Gauntlets of Warding
Fair Leather Leggings of Deflection
Average Leather Boots of the Thunder-Child

You don't gain any proficiency in Niten style, and 2 abilities of the style are only unlocked at lvl 250. I suggest you to use another style instead.

Put some points in WIS, as it boosts the MMI, Resist and base MP.

I've sent you some equipment.

This post has been edited by Dan31: Jan 12 2015, 18:08

Is my PA distribution fine for a melee build?

Strength 234 +178
Dexterity 219 +143
Agility 227 +118
Endurance 234
Intelligence 139
Wisdom 191

just passed trio and the tree on hell
2h, quite safe, but often void+wind strike deals very little damage. I have to rely on skills.
I hope it is not that i made mistake in PA distribution.

2h proficiency is about 135

Looks decent enough (though if you can find armor that raises Endurance as well that will boost your survivability).

The good part about the exponential experience/PAB curve is that your exact distribution at any one time doesn't matter all that much, because in a few levels you'll have upgraded the important stats anyway since they cost so little compared to the XP you're gaining.

Good day, I'm new to the game and I just want to know
if the Grand Masters have any general advice for a Niten Ichiryu user.
Stats, equipments & all. Thank you.

Equipment:
Average Katana of Slaughter
Superior Wakizashi of Balance
Fair Leather Helmet of Warding
Fair Leather Breastplate of Warding
Fair Leather Gauntlets of Warding
Fair Leather Leggings of Deflection
Average Leather Boots of the Thunder-Child

You can get some nice free equipment upgrades from here:

https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=163637

You always want to be getting at least Superior, hopefully with as many PABs as possible (for instance, strength, dexterity, and agility on weapon). Often basic cheap Superiors can be found in the Bazaar.

Also, you gain no proficiency with Niten, which is a big impediment unless your level is so high that you aren't gaining much proficiency anyway. You may want to switch to a different style.

Wisdom is an important attribute even for melee - it affects the size of your base mana pool, which affects how many Cures you can cast before you have to use a potion.

The distribution looks okay, but you need to find equipment with 4 PABs.

In 2H style, strikes are only applied to the main target. Stun is very useful, but you have to rely on the T2 skill and Imperil to boost your damage.

I suggest you to try out 1H (Rapier of Slaughter + Force Shield + Power armor set).

yep my alternative set-up is 1h shortsword + light armor. i mainly use it for IW, having increased the prof to 100+
havent found a good ethereal rapier. power armors are quite expensive (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

1h is certainly safer. but i am sure no power armor means too slow killing.

This post has been edited by coreguy: Jan 12 2015, 18:02

You don't gain any proficiency in Niten style, and 2 abilities of the style are only unlocked at lvl 250. I suggest you to use another style instead.

Put some points in WIS, as it boosts the MMI, Resist and base MP.

I've sent you some equipment.

Thanks for the freebies. So I have to wait till I get lvl 250 to use Niten Style then? I still want to dual wield though. I assume proficiency is important, but I still haven't grasp the mechanics of it. Tried reading it but it still a bit confusing. How about the stats, aside from the WIS, how should I go about it?

https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=163637

You always want to be getting at least Superior, hopefully with as many PABs as possible (for instance, strength, dexterity, and agility on weapon). Often basic cheap Superiors can be found in the Bazaar.

Also, you gain no proficiency with Niten, which is a big impediment unless your level is so high that you aren't gaining much proficiency anyway. You may want to switch to a different style.

Wisdom is an important attribute even for melee - it affects the size of your base mana pool, which affects how many Cures you can cast before you have to use a potion.

Thanks for the link. I read that yesterday and I was just waiting for someone to donate a Leg Katana or am I just waiting for something that's too rare to find?

yep my alternative set-up is 1h shortsword + light armor. i mainly use it for IW, having increased the prof to 100+

shortswords of slaughter are still a decent choice for a 1H beginner: nice damage, nice parry and quite cheap. if it's good enough you may still make good use of that before having the need to switch to a rapier. btw, can we see it?

havent found a good ethereal rapier.

ethereal rapiers are surely a nice thing, but really no mandatory. you can achieve void damage/strike also by hollowforging another type, just search for a whatever-prefixed one.

power armors are quite expensive (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

1h is certainly safer. but i am sure no power armor means too slow killing.

yep, power armors significantly boost your damage so it's nice to have them rather than plates, even more if compared with leathers. also, they keep your feet on the ground enough to take full advantage of the block chance of your shield, thus to keep a perma-spirit stance. but for now don't even consider the top-tier ones, looking for the leftovers at auctions may easily allow you to come out with a decent set (ie something you may use for other 50~100 levels) with a 300~500k-range amount.

all in all, personally i wouldn't find a bad idea to buy some powers - it will already be a huge boost to your firepower, IW the shortsword (look for a fatality as high as possible, then only make your way until hollowforging) and meanwhile searching for a rapier - meanwhile you may have already reached lv250 or so. just saying, though, it may also be my daily bullshit (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

So I have to wait till I get lvl 250 to use Niten Style then?

wait for lv250 AND a patch that finally will boost niten before using it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

I still want to dual wield though.

DW should be ok, but at your level leather armors + longsword/mace may be a better idea

I assume proficiency is important, but I still haven't grasp the mechanics of it. Tried reading it but it still a bit confusing.

basically, everytime your character hit something there's the chance that he may learn something and become better in using his weapon(s) ( = raising his proficiency). this will eventually lend to unlock further abilities, that will make your character stronger, etc etc. so yes, proficiencies are quite important.

How about the stats, aside from the WIS, how should I go about it?

it depends on your build. as a melee, the only useless one is INT. if you go for the light route, everything else is important, while with the heavy route AGI does little to nothing as well. at your level you may want to stress END and WIS a bit to raise your HP/MP pools, then STR and DEX for the attack. AGI is useful for evade, but it depends if you use light armors or not.

I read that yesterday and I was just waiting for someone to donate a Leg Katana or am I just waiting for something that's too rare to find?

very rare. quite sure that you won't see it in FS, or at least i don't remember to have ever seen one - many superiors, some exquisites at maximum

I assume proficiency is important, but I still haven't grasp the mechanics of it. Tried reading it but it still a bit confusing.

For example, if you have the first level of Dual-Wielding Damage ability slotted, you'll have 3 more attack damage for every point in DW proficiency. Someone at level 50 might have 30 dual-wielding proficiency, so they would get 90 additional attack damage. It's an invaluable bonus at any level.

You gain proficiency when you play with that style. If you dual-wield for 10 levels, you might gain 5 DW proficiency during that time - that gives you 15 free attack damage by the end. (But with Niten, you don't gain anything)

How about the stats, aside from the WIS, how should I go about it?

Increase any attribute if it's cheap. For instance, if you gain 1400 experience per level, and you have some attribute that only costs 4 to upgrade to the next level, you might as well do it since the cost is negligible. (even if the attribute is Intel - although the magic benefits are irrelevant for your style, it will still give you a fraction of a spirit point, letting you use Spirit Stance longer)

I was just waiting for someone to donate a Leg Katana or am I just waiting for something that's too rare to find?

I think around 98% of the good gear players use is bought from the 350+ level players who grind a lot and have high Quartermaster / Luck of the Draw etc training. Even at my level, I've never found anything good enough myself that I actually want to keep using for a while. This is basically a pay-to-win game designed to incentive getting people to pay for E-Hentai's server costs.

At your level, you don't have to worry about not having super good equipment yet - having valuable equipment only starts becoming important around level 200 when you start running into PL 1000+ enemies. If you can just get a Superior or Exquisite prefixed something of Slaughter for your mainhand weapon, that'll almost certainly be good enough for the next hundred or so levels.

shortswords of slaughter are still a decent choice for a 1H beginner: nice damage, nice parry and quite cheap. if it's good enough you may still make good use of that before having the need to switch to a rapier. btw, can we see it?

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=caccb71252

i see there is one mag ethereal rapier right now in bidding.
already 500k (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=caccb71252

it seems good to me. forge the first five levels of everything since it's almost free, then you may want to continue only with cheap bindings like nimble and isaac. stop as soon as you meet the HG material requirement since it's not worth the stat earning.
also, since damage is already high enough personally i'd go for fatality. just my opinion though

i see there is one mag ethereal rapier right now in bidding.
already 500k (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

and auction just started, wait until the end (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
i saw it too, it's on my weekly wishlist but i guess i can already cross it out (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

it seems good to me. forge the first five levels of everything since it's almost free, then you may want to continue only with cheap bindings like nimble and isaac. stop as soon as you meet the HG material requirement since it's not worth the stat earning.
also, since damage is already high enough personally i'd go for fatality. just my opinion though
and auction just started, wait until the end (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
i saw it too, it's on my weekly wishlist but i guess i can already cross it out (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

i think i will just end up with an elemental one then IW to get void strike.

btw,
iw really takes time.
I just iw an ethereal weapon to lv 10. since i can only do it on hell difficulty, a single lv 10 requires about 15 times of 50 rounds grinding. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

also i have the feeling that iw is much harder than arena. isn't it?

i think i will just end up with an elemental one then IW to get void strike.

as you wish. still, personally i'd go for power armors first. however, i just sent you an exq rapier: as i wrote privately it's nothing really special, only to make you realize whether you really need PA or can still make use of BW for another while

iw really takes time.
I just iw an ethereal weapon to lv 10. since i can only do it on hell difficulty, a single lv 10 requires about 15 times of 50 rounds grinding. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

yeh (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) but power armors and void strike can really help you (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
also, hell is quite low of a level to do iw, you should wait until lv250 to go at least at nintendo/BT. my bad for misreading your level (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

also i have the feeling that iw is much harder than arena. isn't it?

a bit. basically, in arenas you know from the start how many mobs you will have for every round, while on Iw you cannot. this implies you can have to deal with only one mob as well as 7 celestials. good luck (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Are you sure chance for Precursor Artifact is 0.1%? I dont have much statistic, but it looks a bit more. Every day i get 3+ and mostly its only 4-5k mobs.

Are you sure chance for Precursor Artifact is 0.1%? I dont have much statistic, but it looks a bit more. Every day i get 3+ and mostly its only 4-5k mobs.

4 artifact every 4k mobs killed is equal to 4 / 4k = 1 / 1k = 0.001 = 1 ‰ = 0.1 % afaik. where's the point? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Drop chance isnt 100%. Its only near 20-25% for me, so its max near 1000 rolls. Or 1 artifact per day.

This post has been edited by nec1986: Jan 12 2015, 22:41

a bit. basically, in arenas you know from the start how many mobs you will have for every round, while on Iw you cannot. this implies you can have to deal with only one mob as well as 7 celestials. good luck (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

i think he meant the grindfest feeling. At last 10ish rounds the mobs hit much harder. I feel it as well.

Besides, "the higher the quality of an equipment, the harder the mobs" (or something, can't recall) - says wiki

This post has been edited by Dead-ed: Jan 13 2015, 03:30

Haven't seen an artifact in days :L

i think he meant the grindfest feeling. At last 10ish rounds the mobs hit much harder. I feel it as well.

Besides, "the higher the quality of an equipment, the harder the mobs" (or something, can't recall) - says wiki

It is harder. According to the wiki Arena monsters have 100% strenght for the whole arena (whatever that means) while IW monsters start at 100% and gain ~2% per round.

Drop chance isnt 100%. Its only near 20-25% for me, so its max near 1000 rolls. Or 1 artifact per day.

My numbers match yours, 1 artifact per ~1300 monsters killed, close to a 0.28% drop chance for artifacts. 0.2% base drop chance once I disregard archaeologist (4/10 currently).

It is harder. According to the wiki Arena monsters have 100% strenght for the whole arena (whatever that means) while IW monsters start at 100% and gain ~2% per round.

actually i feel it is not a strict positive-slope straight line
take 50 rounds as an example, the hardest part is at about 35-45
then the difficulty seems to drop a little in the last a few rounds.

Arena is much easier. The number of monster is at most 5-6 until almost half of the total rounds is passed, not like iw, in which the number will increase to 8-9 after a few rounds.