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post Jan 10 2015, 01:53
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QUOTE(Mantra64 @ Jan 10 2015, 00:24) *

Beside Holy and Dark, which would be the nextbest Elemental Strike for an Ethereal Weapon?
And which the best combination for Club/Rapier?

If it is for a DW/Light build, that would be Wind Strike, it makes a good pairing with Frost Spike Shield.

Club of Slaughter + Rapier of Balance (Nimble if you need additionnal defense).
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post Jan 10 2015, 02:53
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QUOTE(Dan31 @ Jan 10 2015, 00:53) *

If it is for a DW/Light build, that would be Wind Strike, it makes a good pairing with Frost Spike Shield.

Club of Slaughter + Rapier of Balance (Nimble if you need additionnal defense).

I have Frost Spike Shield.

I maxed my Legendary Ethereal Club of Slaughter and got Elec Strike. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
My Legendary Ethereal Rapier of Balance got Cold Stike. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

That's why I ask as it seems that I will have to reforge them to get a better elemental strike. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Jan 10 2015, 02:56
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I think the magic score script works on current stats, not base stats.

And, even having read the wiki, I haven't figured out how to go from the raw roll number to the % or back.
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post Jan 10 2015, 03:03
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QUOTE(Mantra64 @ Jan 10 2015, 01:53) *

I have Frost Spike Shield.

I maxed my Legendary Ethereal Club of Slaughter and got Elec Strike. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
My Legendary Ethereal Rapier of Balance got Cold Stike. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

That's why I ask as it seems that I will have to reforge them to get a better elemental strike. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

if you aren't a mage, the advantages of a strike matching the spike shield is almost negligible, don't waste nice potencies this way...
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post Jan 10 2015, 03:07
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QUOTE(Mantra64 @ Jan 10 2015, 01:53) *

I have Frost Spike Shield.

I maxed my Legendary Ethereal Club of Slaughter and got Elec Strike. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
My Legendary Ethereal Rapier of Balance got Cold Stike. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

That's why I ask as it seems that I will have to reforge them to get a better elemental strike. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

The Strike of the offhand weapon isn't that important since it deals less damage in the first place. Also, do you have nice potencies on your weapons?

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post Jan 10 2015, 03:55
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QUOTE(Mantra64 @ Jan 10 2015, 08:53) *

I have Frost Spike Shield.

I maxed my Legendary Ethereal Club of Slaughter and got Elec Strike. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
My Legendary Ethereal Rapier of Balance got Cold Stike. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

That's why I ask as it seems that I will have to reforge them to get a better elemental strike. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Judging by the the current distribution of HV monsters, imo the ranking of strkes is:
Dark > Holy > Wind ~ Elec ~ Cold ~ Fire

2.5 Dark for SGs, Celestial (Akroma, Celestia Lindwurm, Kyoko Hori, Deadly Angel, Ikaros Melan, Ck Eclair, Vapr)
2.5 Holy for SGs, Undead (Ushijima 1129, Evangeline A K Mc Dowell, Patchwerk, Lance003, Fire Spirit, Aw-338) and Daimon (Heartunder Blade, Ac Milan, Laozei 9th, Sherlock Sheryl Shellingford, Brutallus, Root Of All Evil, Succubus)
2 Wind for Giant (In Memory Of Dark Mages xxx) and Dragonkin (19qun, Crosis, Bakaneko Vii, Rain Lindwurm, Chibi Ryu, Spinoza)
2 Elec for Giant and Mechanoid (Cracker Jim, Ever17 The Out Of Infinity, Xt-03, Rarafew, Mamama)
2 Cold for Arthropod (In Memory Of Dark Mages yyy) and Dragonkin
2 Fire for Undead and Beast

Derp.
The reason I gave Fire Strike 1 rather than 2 is because there is no monster with PL > 1200 on the HV server right now.
Actually not even one Beast with PL > 1000 exists. (at least in Jenga's HV Monster Database)


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post Jan 10 2015, 04:18
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I am finally back to around 1,000 Hath worth of Hath and credits and am trying to choose between the 1K Hath perks or continuing to save for Daemon Duality . As a Dark / Holy casual player, should I: 1) get IA V; 2) get one of the 1K Mage prof perks; or 3) wait for the damage booster.

As it stands my base proficiencies are at or near max and I have upper mid-range / lower upper range gear.

If you are having 1.5< prof fact < 1.9, I think (2) is a good choice. Otherwise, wait for (3).
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post Jan 10 2015, 04:19
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QUOTE(djackallstar @ Jan 10 2015, 12:55) *

The reason I gave Fire Strike 1 rather than 2 is because there is no monster with PL > 1200 on the HV server right now.
Actually not even one Beast with PL > 1000 exists. (at least in Jenga's HV Monster Database)


i beg to differ

[hvlist.niblseed.com] http://hvlist.niblseed.com/?selectby=class...&orderbyb=1

there's even one beasts with PL>1600 created by ichy

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post Jan 10 2015, 04:32
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My fighting style is Niten Ichiryu, and level is 328 now.

I think my base attack damage isn't high enough (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
But I want to maintain high mitigations.

Can someone advice me?

This is my stat.

(IMG:[i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/BZixAtM.jpg)

And these are my equipments.

(IMG:[i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/utRRYMz.jpg)

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post Jan 10 2015, 04:33
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Jan 10 2015, 10:19) *

i beg to differ

[hvlist.niblseed.com] http://hvlist.niblseed.com/?selectby=class...&orderbyb=1

there's even one beasts with PL>1600 created by ichy

Derp. Corrected.
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post Jan 10 2015, 05:03
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Can elemental strike by melee weapons take advantage of the element resistance reduction inflicted by spike field? Or only spell can?
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post Jan 10 2015, 05:06
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QUOTE(enarc @ Jan 9 2015, 18:32) *

My fighting style is Niten Ichiryu, and level is 328 now.

I think my base attack damage isn't high enough (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
But I want to maintain high mitigations.

Can someone advice me?

This is my stat.


Find some good shade armor. It'll boost attack damage as well as evade, which will make up for the lower mitigation.
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post Jan 10 2015, 05:12
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QUOTE(enarc @ Jan 10 2015, 03:32) *

My fighting style is Niten Ichiryu, and level is 328 now.

I think my base attack damage isn't high enough (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
But I want to maintain high mitigations.

Can someone advice me?

Use light armor (shade of the fleet/shadowdancer), otherwise you waste the AGI (giving evade and attack speed) of both weapon (especially from the waki) and attack speed of the waki because of the high burden of heavy armor. Besides, more AGI boosts your offhand strike chance in Niten/DW style. Also, since the offhand weapon deals -50% damage, maybe switch to a waki of Nimble, preferably Hallowed for the Cure bonus (waki has a low burden and interference, so you don't get much from ethereal).

I also recommend using light armor for 2H and DW.

You can lower your INT.

QUOTE(coreguy @ Jan 10 2015, 04:03) *

Can elemental strike by melee weapons take advantage of the element resistance reduction inflicted by spike field? Or only spell can?

It can.

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post Jan 10 2015, 09:05
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you got rr right?

Nope. And I don't have VV either.

I spend my credits in forge materials and usually wait for the hath to pile up naturally before buying a perk. I made an exception only for Crys3, since I wanted to get it in this lifetime...
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post Jan 10 2015, 09:19
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QUOTE(Hoheneim @ Jan 10 2015, 09:05) *

Nope. And I don't have VV either.

I spend my credits in forge materials and usually wait for the hath to pile up naturally before buying a perk. I made an exception only for Crys3, since I wanted to get it in this lifetime...


imo, you should get VV, it's relatively "cheap" (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Jan 10 2015, 09:42
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QUOTE(Dan31 @ Jan 9 2015, 20:12) *

Use light armor (shade of the fleet/shadowdancer), otherwise you waste the AGI (giving evade and attack speed) of both weapon (especially from the waki) and attack speed of the waki because of the high burden of heavy armor. Besides, more AGI boosts your offhand strike chance in Niten/DW style. Also, since the offhand weapon deals -50% damage, maybe switch to a waki of Nimble, preferably Hallowed for the Cure bonus (waki has a low burden and interference, so you don't get much from ethereal).

I also recommend using light armor for 2H and DW.

You can lower your INT.
It can.

treesloth revealed that relying on evade & parry is useless now.
Seriously nimble?
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post Jan 10 2015, 10:03
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QUOTE(Dead-ed @ Jan 10 2015, 15:42) *

treesloth revealed that relying on evade & parry is useless now.
Seriously nimble?

Heavy armor make it even worse. One magic attack and SoL will be triggered.
TBH, after a certain level, only 1H is viable for melee. 2H fall behind too much in both attack and defense power. DW is only useful in arena.
Though I mostly use holy in the past few months, (more precisely, I do not play much at all (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) ), I am still buying various melee gears for testing. And the result tell me that 2H is completely dead, at least for non-ethereal weapon. DW is much poorer than elemental mage (cold and electric) in all area.

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post Jan 10 2015, 10:39
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Magnificent Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter
Magnificent Arctic Wakizashi of Slaughter
Magnificent Hallowed Wakizashi of Slaughter
Magnificent Tempestuous Wakizashi of Slaughter
Legendary Demonic Wakizashi of Slaughter
Magnificent Ethereal Longsword of Slaughter

Are these good or crap?
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post Jan 10 2015, 10:45
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Seems im quite lucky. Another legendary, but again not something special. But this roll is quite decent.

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=1197d30aa1

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post Jan 10 2015, 10:52
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QUOTE(djackallstar @ Jan 10 2015, 02:55) *

Judging by the the current distribution of HV monsters, imo the ranking of strkes is:
Dark > Holy > Wind ~ Elec ~ Cold ~ Fire

2.5 Dark for SGs, Celestial (Akroma, Celestia Lindwurm, Kyoko Hori, Deadly Angel, Ikaros Melan, Ck Eclair, Vapr)
2.5 Holy for SGs, Undead (Ushijima 1129, Evangeline A K Mc Dowell, Patchwerk, Lance003, Fire Spirit, Aw-338) and Daimon (Heartunder Blade, Ac Milan, Laozei 9th, Sherlock Sheryl Shellingford, Brutallus, Root Of All Evil, Succubus)
2 Wind for Giant (In Memory Of Dark Mages xxx) and Dragonkin (19qun, Crosis, Bakaneko Vii, Rain Lindwurm, Chibi Ryu, Spinoza)
2 Elec for Giant and Mechanoid (Cracker Jim, Ever17 The Out Of Infinity, Xt-03, Rarafew, Mamama)
2 Cold for Arthropod (In Memory Of Dark Mages yyy) and Dragonkin
2 Fire for Undead and Beast

Derp.
The reason I gave Fire Strike 1 rather than 2 is because there is no monster with PL > 1200 on the HV server right now.
Actually not even one Beast with PL > 1000 exists. (at least in Jenga's HV Monster Database)


So you telling me that it doesn't really matter which elemental strike I have?
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