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post Dec 30 2014, 18:06
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QUOTE(colosseum_guy @ Dec 30 2014, 19:01) *

Main Void Strike is important, Etheral is not.
But people keep saying IW should wait later (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


Well, you can IW, but without capable doing this at least on IWBTH, it just take forever. Be aware of that.
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post Dec 30 2014, 18:09
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QUOTE(colosseum_guy @ Dec 30 2014, 11:01) *

Main Void Strike is important, Etheral is not.
But people keep saying IW should wait later (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)



Its about time somebody figured that out.
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post Dec 30 2014, 18:26
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QUOTE(p3epe @ Dec 30 2014, 16:22) *

I mean Frenzied Blows. Taking half of the enemy mobs off the field instantly from the beginning really helps me to avoid spending mana on Cure - seems even better than normal Spirit Stance, at least while I'm still DW.

Maybe my 25% Spirit Shield is good enough that I can start using it constantly and rely more on just Regen rather than Regen + Cure. I should try it and see how many spirit pots are needed compared to current mana pots.

Oh, ok.

QUOTE(p3epe @ Dec 30 2014, 16:22) *

I've seen many say this, but what makes it different? Even with a couple more abilities and a bit more proficiency in everything I'm not seeing how it would be much more effective.

Well, you'll also have better stats, and your equipment scales with your level (monsters too, but less so).

QUOTE(p3epe @ Dec 30 2014, 16:22) *

You can see people's equipment without them giving you links first? I didn't know that! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

No, you can't. You simply mentionned earlier in that thread that you were going to use that. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

QUOTE(p3epe @ Dec 30 2014, 16:22) *

I did spend an hour or so looking for Rapiers a couple days ago, but everything Ethereal/Slaughter cost way more than I have (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) What I have instead is Hallowed
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=51a4009cfb
which I use on schoolgirls and random encounters, while axe is for IW (penetrated armor not great if mobs die in 4-5 hits anyway, right?).

I had read a number of posts saying that Stun wasn't very good because mobs will still gain MP/SP and often use them when stun expires - and normal attacks are nothing to worry about. Another thing is that if there are more than 4 or so, it wouldn't seem like just 1 being stunned wouldn't have that much effect anyway..?

I'll try Axe + Rapier offhand. I hadn't tried that because I was worried the offhand's less likely proc chance wouldn't keep Penetrated Armor up long enough.

Hallowed is great, though it's much better to level it up in IW to 10 for Void damage + Void Strike (especially against SGs). The Holy EDB makes your Cure spell recover more HP, and Holy Strike is one of the best strike (the other best are Void and Dark strike). With an ethereal rapier, you only have 33% chance of getting Holy or Dark strike at IW lvl 10. However, your rapier is a rapier of slaughter, which is better used in 1H style. As a reminder, the offhand weapon in DW style gets -50% damage, so Balance (more crit and offhand proc) or Nimble (works great with the +50% parry from offhand) would be more appropriate.

Normal monsters shouldn't be a problem, you can dispatch them quickly with Frenzied Blows (or the OFC if you have it). Stun on SGs means they won't be able to attack most of the time, and you can often keep the procs on by attacking two different monsters alternatively. You can use Silence if you are worried about skill attacks.
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post Dec 30 2014, 18:41
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QUOTE(colosseum_guy @ Dec 31 2014, 00:01) *

Main Void Strike is important, Etheral is not.
But people keep saying IW should wait later (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

With the current 1h style with force shield. It should be easy to IW exq gears at IWBTH @ ~lv2xx.
I remember I started IWing my main weapon when my level was 23x. Using estoc + full plate.

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post Dec 30 2014, 18:44
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QUOTE(Colman @ Dec 30 2014, 17:41) *

With the current 1h style with force shield. It should be easy to IW exq gears at IWBTH @ ~lv2xx.
I remember I started IWing my main weapon when my level was 23x. Using estoc + full plate.

Good suggestion.

p3epe, I've sent you a Force Shield to try out 1H style, use it well.
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post Dec 30 2014, 21:35
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Btw. What is gem powerups? How to get it and can it affect another drop?
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post Dec 30 2014, 21:55
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Dec 30 2014, 20:35) *

Btw. What is gem powerups? How to get it and can it affect another drop?

http://ehwiki.org/wiki/gem#Battle_Powerups

A monster has a (static?) ~4% chance to drop a gem. Use it from the item pane. They can only be used in battle and disappear when the battle is over. I recommend to use a script to be able to see if you have a gem without checking the item pane like Show Gems.

BTW, did you seriously level up to lvl 300+ without knowing what a gem is?

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post Dec 30 2014, 22:25
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Yes. First time i saw it yesterday. By accident. I was looking for loot info.
Actually i saw that text in item bar, but without attention. I thought its just text and mostly clicked ordinary standart routine item-pot. Only now i realized that P line means powerups and i can use it.

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post Dec 31 2014, 01:02
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Dec 31 2014, 00:25) *

Yes. First time i saw it yesterday. By accident. I was looking for loot info.
Actually i saw that text in item bar, but without attention. I thought its just text and mostly clicked ordinary standart routine item-pot. Only now i realized that P line means powerups and i can use it.


Sorry but you just made my day (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Well I guess you focused too much on Leveling up rather than knowing some "basic" things on the game. And at first I too thought it was loot or something that would be going into my Inventory but as I checked it wasn't going there, I searched it on wiki and found out what those gems/powerups were.

Its also quite awesome that you leveled up that quickly without knowing what gems are till now, I suppose you had rough times with using potions? Cause gems are what people usually use to save Potions (so as they don't run out of pots in last rounds of long arenas)
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post Dec 31 2014, 03:25
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Does anyone know where to find the details of varst's analysis of Item World using mathematical model?
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post Dec 31 2014, 03:56
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Dec 30 2014, 16:25) *

Yes. First time i saw it yesterday. By accident. I was looking for loot info.
Actually i saw that text in item bar, but without attention. I thought its just text and mostly clicked ordinary standart routine item-pot. Only now i realized that P line means powerups and i can use it.


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post Dec 31 2014, 06:31
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Someone lent me some gear and asked for it back, but I can't find it in my inventory.
Anyone know what might be the problem?
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post Dec 31 2014, 07:07
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QUOTE(Brofisto @ Dec 31 2014, 12:31) *

Someone lent me some gear and asked for it back, but I can't find it in my inventory.
Anyone know what might be the problem?

Are you equipping or locking them?
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post Dec 31 2014, 07:40
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QUOTE(The Magi @ Dec 31 2014, 02:02) *

you had rough times with using potions?


Not rly. I trained all slots quite long ago and got big help (equip and advices), so with 1h style it wasnt hard and i did quite many PF conq runs (until spend all mp). Its not so important can i clear 30 or 35 rounds there or even 50 (only small average exp difference), because in any time i can start new one.


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post Dec 31 2014, 09:33
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It's time to admit that I have no idea what I'm doing. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
Before starting arena battles I cast Protection, Regen, Haste, Shadow Veil and then Arcane Focus (I try to get Arcane Focus on channelling) and then whack the enemies out with fire and/or spells.

These are my problems:
  • I can't beat Random Encounter mobs in hell difficulty and keep getting murdered. Nightmare seems to be the absolute highest I can go.
  • I can beat FSM at normal difficulty by the skin of my teeth
  • Beating Longest Journey etc. in Hell difficulty seems nigh impossible. Nightmare seems to be the absolute highest I can go, and I usually do everything at Hard, but recently I might be imagining it/paranoid but the enemies seem to be doing more damage to me in hard then they used to..
I have started to use Spirit Shield which seems to decrease my casualties somewhat. I experimented with Spark of Life.

I'd prefer to stay as a mage as the thought of having regrind proficiency seems terrifying.

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post Dec 31 2014, 09:54
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so i just hit lvl 200 and have a sapling and noodly appendage. should i be selling these or using to hope for better equipment?

this is my equipment:
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=98dc17a726
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=29f1cdd32f
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=7129954a19
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=5f32401d9a
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=690c60cf9c
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=d988ba77cb
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=4f56b9cc12

btw how do make these hyperlinks only show the item number?
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post Dec 31 2014, 10:44
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QUOTE(jackalo @ Dec 30 2014, 23:54) *
so i just hit lvl 200 and have a sapling and noodly appendage. should i be selling these or using to hope for better equipment?

The chances of getting anything good from the shrine are very slim. I'd just sell them to other players.

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btw how do make these hyperlinks only show the item number?

Do you mean base values?

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post Dec 31 2014, 10:52
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QUOTE(Dammon @ Dec 31 2014, 03:44) *

Do you mean base values?


yes
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post Dec 31 2014, 10:56
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QUOTE(ChanForu @ Dec 31 2014, 15:33) *

It's time to admit that I have no idea what I'm doing. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
Before starting arena battles I cast Protection, Regen, Haste, Shadow Veil and then Arcane Focus (I try to get Arcane Focus on channelling) and then whack the enemies out with fire and/or spells.

These are my problems:
  • I can't beat Random Encounter mobs in hell difficulty and keep getting murdered. Nightmare seems to be the absolute highest I can go.
  • I can beat FSM at normal difficulty by the skin of my teeth
  • Beating Longest Journey etc. in Hell difficulty seems nigh impossible. Nightmare seems to be the absolute highest I can go, and I usually do everything at Hard, but recently I might be imagining it/paranoid but the enemies seem to be doing more damage to me in hard then they used to..
I have started to use Spirit Shield which seems to decrease my casualties somewhat. I experimented with Spark of Life.

I'd prefer to stay as a mage as the thought of having regrind proficiency seems terrifying.


I'm just 30 levels ahead of you, and am having problems of my own. For me the key to beating random encounters at IWBTH was to use Spark of Life, and invest more into SP (tank, pots). I've found Health pots to be much less useful now.
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post Dec 31 2014, 10:59
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QUOTE(jackalo @ Dec 31 2014, 00:52) *
yes

Use a script like HentaiVerse Equipment Comparison.

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