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I dont think schoolgirl is nice place to get credits. Only if you wanna sell trophies to someone. My main earn is credits from mobs. I dont remember exact number, but its near 20 credits from mob on PF. So if you ll clear 30 rounds arena (152 mobs) than you probably ll get near 3k credits without clear bonus.

Btw. I cleared first schoolgirl arena on BT, but after 90 round i had to use focus for restortion mp. Was looking for better equip, but its not so easy to find any M+ and mostly E is near same as mine.

This post has been edited by nec1986: Dec 30 2014, 13:24

I dont think schoolgirl is nice place to get credits. Only if you wanna sell trophies to someone. My main earn is credits from mobs. I dont remember exact number, but its near 20 credits from mob on PF. So if you ll clear 30 rounds arena (152 mobs) than you probably ll get near 3k credits without clear bonus.

Btw. I cleared first schoolgirl arena on BT, but after 90 round i had to use focus for restortion mp. Was looking for better equip, but its not so easy to find any M+ and mostly E is near same as mine.

Well actually if you did all 3, It would be...385 trophies+ which you could sell at.... 700-900 ea? You're looking at 270k+ a day and that doesn't include the other drops?

Well actually if you did all 3, It would be...385 trophies+ which you could sell at.... 700-900 ea? You're looking at 270k+ a day and that doesn't include the other drops?

That many? Or are you just counting the number of SGs you have to defeat? The drop chance for SG trophies is a static 10% except for the last round where it is 100%.

This post has been edited by Dan31: Dec 30 2014, 14:01

Well actually if you did all 3, It would be...385 trophies+ which you could sell at.... 700-900 ea? You're looking at 270k+ a day and that doesn't include the other drops?

The drop chance for trophies in the schoolgirl arenas is a static 10% except in the final round. At most you'll get 50 trophies if you do all 3.

Well actually if you did all 3, It would be...385 trophies+ which you could sell at.... 700-900 ea? You're looking at 270k+ a day and that doesn't include the other drops?

For trophies, the drop is guaranteed except in the non-final rounds of the level 225+ arena challenges where it is a static 10% chance.

See here.

That many? Or are you just counting the number of SGs you have to defeat? The drop chance for SG trophies is a static 10% except for the last round where it is 100%.

The drop chance for trophies in the schoolgirl arenas is a static 10% except in the final round. At most you'll get 50 trophies if you do all 3.

For trophies, the drop is guaranteed except in the non-final rounds of the level 225+ arena challenges where it is a static 10% chance.

See here.

Overkill! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

And finally some of the trophies is only 400-500. But actually gold drop looks ok in schoolgirls and maybe its even bigger (i ll check tomorrow). So overall its definitely good. The only problem is duration on high difficulte.

This post has been edited by nec1986: Dec 30 2014, 14:16

And finally some of the trophies is only 400-500. But actually gold drop looks ok in schoolgirls and maybe its even bigger (i ll check tomorrow). So overall its definitely good. The only problem is duration on high difficulte.

Well still assuming the 10% + the guaranteed last drop for all 3 that's... 50 + assuming the drop rate of credits from them, (I play PF so It's something like 300 or so can't remember) with the 20% drop rate thats 33k from the first, 37.5k from the second and 45k from the third.

Something like 150k rounded down, not including equipment.

And the 400-500 is for the non-schoolgirls.

This post has been edited by TygerTyger: Dec 30 2014, 14:29

Btw. Seems i rly have better credits drop in schoolgirl arenas (and i doint only on hell). Depends on powerlevel of mobs or class?

I have light armor and DW. My main problem right now is lack of mana.

What are you using your mana on?
too many cures: you need more defenses (mitigation/evasion/parry/resist). Forge your equipment's defenses to at least +5 (or replace them if they aren't worth forging).
general running out: you need more damage. Get really good weapons and IW them to 10 (you get many elemental strikes as DW), then forge damage (to at least +5).

When you forge past +5, you start to need bindings and higher grade materials which are expensive. Do the math yourself so you know how much you lose when salvaging, also note that when salvaging, the numbers round down, so try to keep it in multiples of 10 (ie. 5,15,25...).

On Arena rewards, Schoolgirl verses Miscellaneous

Schoolgirl arenas are more of a Noodly Appendage Plus Gamble, you get slightly less money per time spent compared with other arenas, but with a much, much higher change of a really good drop (no need to kid anyone, it is still very low in the sub 1% level). Consider doing the other arenas as they get you more money per time spent and are easier to fit in between things. I used to complete SG arenas on normal just to get the trophies and to save on time.

Information on arena profitability:
Using data that is months old (but still the latest patch), turns are estimated by time, all on PFUDOR, credits include 1k clear bonus.
TT&T awarded ~12,000 (+2k sapling, total 14k) credits and took ~ 2400 turns
DwD awarded ~32,000 (+~19k trophies, total 51k) credits and took ~ 12000 turns (also note I used infusions so this is artificially lower)

So TT&T Results in 5.8±1.61* Credits/turn
DwD Results in 4.25±1.16* Credits/turn (inflated with infusion use)

Statistically they are the same^, but it is leaning towards TT&T being quite a bit better (consider timing your own runs and counting up the rewards).

notes:
*I appreciate the sampling error, so I did a Compound Poisson approximation to get a confidence interval (the plus minus parts), the approximation is accurate for high numbers of drops.
^There is only a 85% probability of them being different, instead of the 95% or higher gold standard.

Btw. Seems i rly have better credits drop in schoolgirl arenas (and i doint only on hell). Depends on powerlevel of mobs or class?

http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Credits

Yea, I know it, but it says:
(~20% chance per monster killed; amount mostly modified by difficulty setting and battle mode; not affected by levels)
And i have 90-200 credits dron in ordinary PF arenas and 200-400 drop in hell-BT school girls

This post has been edited by nec1986: Dec 30 2014, 14:46

Yea, I know it, but it says:
(~20% chance per monster killed; amount mostly modified by difficulty setting and battle mode; not affected by levels)
And i have 90-200 credits dron in ordinary PF arenas and 200-400 drop in hell-BT school girls

The SGs drop more credits than common monsters.

Is there still a bonus if all your equipment is the same type (Cloth/Light/Heavy) or is it okay to mix and match now?

Is there still a bonus if all your equipment is the same type (Cloth/Light/Heavy) or is it okay to mix and match now?

There is a bonus if you use the right abilities. And no, mix them is still a bad thing.

This post has been edited by Stulpen: Dec 30 2014, 16:48

Is there still a bonus if all your equipment is the same type (Cloth/Light/Heavy) or is it okay to mix and match now?

If you mix your equipment, you won't have the effects of your armor abilities. So don't.

By Frenzied, don't you mean Spirit Stance? Not to be confused with DW's T3 skill, Frenzied Blows, which does nothing to your mana consumption.

I mean Frenzied Blows. Taking half of the enemy mobs off the field instantly from the beginning really helps me to avoid spending mana on Cure - seems even better than normal Spirit Stance, at least while I'm still DW.

Maybe my 25% Spirit Shield is good enough that I can start using it constantly and rely more on just Regen rather than Regen + Cure. I should try it and see how many spirit pots are needed compared to current mana pots.

I would say it is still a bit early to IW a lot at your level. Wait for lvl ~300. Don't bother with reforging either.

I've seen many say this, but what makes it different? Even with a couple more abilities and a bit more proficiency in everything I'm not seeing how it would be much more effective.

Oh wait, you are using axe + nimble waki?

You can see people's equipment without them giving you links first? I didn't know that! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

If Scremaz recommended builds with a rapier, it's for a good reason, Penetrated Armor is a great offensive proc. Similarly, Stun is a great defensive proc. Combine both, and tadaa~ you will have a much easier time. Go for Ethereal Club of Slaughter + Ethereal rapier of Balance/Nimble. You may also try Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter + Hallowed Wakizashi of Nimble and Ethereal Axe of Slaughter + Ethereal Rapier of Balance/Nimble.

I did spend an hour or so looking for Rapiers a couple days ago, but everything Ethereal/Slaughter cost way more than I have (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) What I have instead is Hallowed
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=51a4009cfb
which I use on schoolgirls and random encounters, while axe is for IW (penetrated armor not great if mobs die in 4-5 hits anyway, right?).

I had read a number of posts saying that Stun wasn't very good because mobs will still gain MP/SP and often use them when stun expires - and normal attacks are nothing to worry about. Another thing is that if there are more than 4 or so, it wouldn't seem like just 1 being stunned wouldn't have that much effect anyway..?

I'll try Axe + Rapier offhand. I hadn't tried that because I was worried the offhand's less likely proc chance wouldn't keep Penetrated Armor up long enough.

I did spend an hour or so looking for Rapiers a couple days ago, but everything Ethereal/Slaughter cost way more than I have (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) What I have instead is Hallowed

Ethereal isnt that important. I run now since a few month with a tempestuous rapier and im not in the hurry to find a ethereal one. I mean, sure, it would be better, but you can make it without.

I did spend an hour or so looking for Rapiers a couple days ago, but everything Ethereal/Slaughter cost way more than I have (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) What I have instead is Hallowed
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=51a4009cfb
which I use on schoolgirls and random encounters, while axe is for IW (penetrated armor not great if mobs die in 4-5 hits anyway, right?).

Holy rapier is better than ethereal rapier in most of the case. The only drawback of holy weapon is that you need to lw it to level 10 to get void attack type.

This post has been edited by Colman: Dec 30 2014, 17:52

Ethereal isnt that important. I run now since a few month with a tempestuous rapier and im not in the hurry to find a ethereal one. I mean, sure, it would be better, but you can make it without.

Main Void Strike is important, Etheral is not.
But people keep saying IW should wait later (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)