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Dec 29 2014, 07:39
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Brofisto
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Thanks for all the help guys. Back into the fray I go.
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Dec 29 2014, 07:46
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mozilla browser
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As a L 246 dark mage, I've about gotten to the point where I can comfortably do Random Encounters at IWBTH, but with significant mana & spirit usage and I often need to consume a spirit pot. I'm unable to do the arenas at IWBTH as I'd run out of mana & spirit pots. What's the reason for this? Is it because of my play strategy, or because my equipment are too poor, or simply because it's an uphill battle being a mage game mechanics do not favor mage at this level?
Anyone else played through the mid-levels as a mage and can comment?
This post has been edited by mozilla browser: Dec 29 2014, 09:38
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Dec 29 2014, 07:59
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Brofisto
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Slashing, Thrusting, or Crushing for my 2H weapon? I like using maces because Stun seems like the best of the status effects, but what do I know?
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Dec 29 2014, 08:23
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colosseum_guy
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QUOTE(Brofisto @ Dec 28 2014, 23:59)  Slashing, Thrusting, or Crushing for my 2H weapon? I like using maces because Stun seems like the best of the status effects, but what do I know?
Mace=>mass stuns look safe, but it simply means both you&monsters are delivering little damage. And any unfortunate turn when every monster are awake feels horrible. Estoc=>Kill things faster than mace. If you can forgot the comfort of mass stuns and actually wants to grind faster, you'll somehow get used to survive without the stuns. Fun knowledge: There was a time when stuns stack. Now you can't even refresh the stun timer with new stuns I think.
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Dec 29 2014, 08:28
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colosseum_guy
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QUOTE(mozilla browser @ Dec 28 2014, 23:46)  As a L 246 dark mage, I've about gotten to the point where I can comfortably do Random Encounters at IWBTH, but with significant mana & spirit usage and I often need to consume a spirit pot. I'm unable to do the arenas at IWBTH as I'd run out of mana & spirit pots. What's the reason for this? Is it because of my play strategy, or because my equipment are too poor, or simply because it's an uphill battle being a mage at this level?
Anyone else played through the mid-levels as a mage and can comment?
Trying to IWBTH arenas (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) !? I don't think it's possible at our level ....... Unless you have infinite pack rat, plus some luck to prevent sudden death during the marathon. (Me: RE at IWBTH, IWing main weapon at Hell to use up extra stamina, normal arenas for credits)
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Dec 29 2014, 08:40
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(colosseum_guy @ Dec 29 2014, 09:28)  (Me: RE at IWBTH, IWing main weapon at Hell to use up extra stamina, normal arenas for credits)
What do you mean with "normal" arenas?
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Dec 29 2014, 09:32
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-Hiiro-
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QUOTE(mozilla browser @ Dec 29 2014, 09:46)  As a L 246 dark mage, I've about gotten to the point where I can comfortably do Random Encounters at IWBTH, but with significant mana & spirit usage and I often need to consume a spirit pot. I'm unable to do the arenas at IWBTH as I'd run out of mana & spirit pots. What's the reason for this? Is it because of my play strategy, or because my equipment are too poor, or simply because it's an uphill battle being a mage at this level?
Anyone else played through the mid-levels as a mage and can comment?
Dunno for mage but for 1H + heavy armor, its possible to do IWBTH or even PFUDOR till POWERFLUX arena (well thats what I tried) Haven't tried with other arenas yet (I need more levels before I try it). But it takes a lot of time (dunno how much because I haven't counted but the pace for the rounds is slow) And I can do RE easily at PFUDOR with 1H+ Heavy (Only need 1 Health Potion and 1 Mana Potion with 6- 10 monsters, with 5 or less, no need for potions except for Mana Potions may be, to cast cure) And I for SG Arenas I do like Scremaz and do it at HARD for now. Oh and for my question about Stamina before, it was because I was doing all the arenas (all the arenas I had unlocked till End of days) at NORMAL and my stamina was decreasing rapidly (about 70 Stamina) But Now I'm doing only the Level 1- 100 Arenas with Higher Difficulties and the SG Arenas at HARD till I'm bored and stop there cause like you know - need sleep, the SG arenas are too damn long (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) ANd my stamina is about 86 - 88 when I do this which easily comes back to 99 tomorrow when I play (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Dec 29 2014, 09:37
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TygerTyger
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QUOTE(The Magi @ Dec 29 2014, 18:32)  Dunno for mage but for 1H + heavy armor, its possible to do IWBTH or even PFUDOR till POWERFLUX arena (well thats what I tried) Haven't tried with other arenas yet (I need more levels before I try it). But it takes a lot of time (dunno how much because I haven't counted but the pace for the rounds is slow) And I can do RE easily at PFUDOR with 1H+ Heavy (Only need 1 Health Potion and 1 Mana Potion with 6- 10 monsters, with 5 or less, no need for potions except for Mana Potions may be, to cast cure) And I for SG Arenas I do like Scremaz and do it at HARD for now. Oh and for my question about Stamina before, it was because I was doing all the arenas (all the arenas I had unlocked till End of days) at NORMAL and my stamina was decreasing rapidly (about 70 Stamina) But Now I'm doing only the Level 1- 100 Arenas with Higher Difficulties and the SG Arenas at HARD till I'm bored and stop there cause like you know - need sleep, the SG arenas are too damn long (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) ANd my stamina is about 86 - 88 when I do this which easily comes back to 99 tomorrow when I play (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I've done all cept the last two of PF but I did them on IW I think...
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Dec 29 2014, 10:41
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colosseum_guy
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QUOTE(Stulpen @ Dec 29 2014, 00:40)  What do you mean with "normal" arenas?
SpeedRun them in normal setting for credits. QUOTE(The Magi @ Dec 29 2014, 01:32)  And I can do RE easily at PFUDOR with 1H+ Heavy (Only need 1 Health Potion and 1 Mana Potion with 6- 10 monsters, with 5 or less, no need for potions except for Mana Potions may be, to cast cure)
I haven't got IA2 yet, easily to have things messed up when there are 9~10 monsters. Walked away half-dead in the better cases (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Dec 29 2014, 10:59
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(colosseum_guy @ Dec 29 2014, 11:41)  SpeedRun them in normal setting for credits.
On Normal? For credits? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) The credit multiplicator for Normal is 1x. So you cant get less credits as on normal. The monster PL is lowest, so is the dropchance from Monster PL, there is less exp, less equip tier and so on. Believe, if you want to get credits, you dont get them on normal.
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Dec 29 2014, 11:12
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Colman
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QUOTE(colosseum_guy @ Dec 29 2014, 16:41)  SpeedRun them in normal setting for credits.
Hell GF is the minimum stage for gaining credit. Below hell, you are losing credit due to repair/ED cost.
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Dec 29 2014, 11:21
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colosseum_guy
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I'm completely aiming on clear bonus&trophies for credits... Not really sure how big is the difference for random drops, or how big the income proportion they can have......
Just tried a few stages in Hell and many monsters still poop within 3 hits. I think it's a good sign?
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Dec 29 2014, 11:25
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(colosseum_guy @ Dec 29 2014, 12:21)  Just tried a few stages in Hell and many monsters still poop within 3 hits. I think it's a good sign?
If this means you can beat the arena on hell, yes.
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Dec 29 2014, 12:16
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Dan31
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Personally, I think that clearing arenas at IWBTH as a mage is fast enough for credits at my level. Besides, since I have to spam Imperil often even at Hell, I want those Imperils to be as useful as possible. I may change my mind if I can get a nice Elementalist staff and some nice Elementalist cotton. Anyway, I still need to train my elem prof.
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Dec 29 2014, 12:34
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(Dan31 @ Dec 29 2014, 13:16)  Besides, since I have to spam Imperil often even at Hell,
At your level you have to spam Imperil on Hell? Why? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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Dec 29 2014, 12:40
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Colman
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QUOTE(Stulpen @ Dec 29 2014, 18:34)  At your level you have to spam Imperil on Hell? Why? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Full phase + EDB/MDB staff I guess.
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Dec 29 2014, 12:44
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Dan31
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QUOTE(Stulpen @ Dec 29 2014, 11:34)  At your level you have to spam Imperil on Hell? Why? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Because it's faster that way. As a reminder, Imperil decreases both the elemental mitigation and the MMI, and that might mean dealing triple damage. QUOTE(Colman @ Dec 29 2014, 11:40)  Full phase + EDB/MDB staff I guess.
Exactly. And I'm still training my elem prof, so I don't want to reduce spell cost with elementalist gear yet. This post has been edited by Dan31: Dec 29 2014, 12:45
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Dec 29 2014, 12:49
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Stulpen @ Dec 29 2014, 03:03)  But me old men has now problems to recognize you.
i guess it means my style is still perverted as always (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) QUOTE(Brofisto @ Dec 29 2014, 05:19)  (IMG:[ i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/J8jfQhL.png) This far in and have no idea how to play. I'm going for Two-Handed weapons and heavy armor. a) What stats do I level up in what to order? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) What are my most useful spells/abilities? c) What should I be putting skill points into? And on a side note, what are the best monsters for the Monster Lab? Does it matter at all? a. keep STR, DEX and END high. lower AGI a bit. use all your unassigned EXP b. haste, cure, protection, regen. heartseeker only on channelling. spark on high difficulties. every now and then do some hit-and-run grindfests to raise your deprecating (let's say at least at 100) and forbidden prof (your aim is 200, but obviously you can't reach it now). c. every ability/spell you're using, especially tanks, MP/SP potions and the most used supportive spells QUOTE(mozilla browser @ Dec 29 2014, 06:36)  What's derpy?
smashpony. every now and then he comes out to destroy a server or two. QUOTE(mozilla browser @ Dec 29 2014, 06:36)  Does hoverplay care whether you're in-battle? I use spell spam, and it doesn't seem to do so.
i guess it doesn't like when it's restarted (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) does spellspam work also for melees? QUOTE(mozilla browser @ Dec 29 2014, 06:36)  Aren't there touhou girls with your favoured assets?
that's a really nice image of touhou girls i found on gelbooru, yes. i saw it and then i said 'oh well, i need a touhou avatar for some days but i'm a pervert, so let's try it' (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) QUOTE(Brofisto @ Dec 29 2014, 06:59)  Slashing, Thrusting, or Crushing for my 2H weapon? I like using maces because Stun seems like the best of the status effects, but what do I know?
at your level i'd say stun. maybe you can thrust every now and then to try it, but mostly stun QUOTE(Stulpen @ Dec 29 2014, 09:59)  On Normal? For credits? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) The credit multiplicator for Normal is 1x. So you cant get less credits as on normal. The monster PL is lowest, so is the dropchance from Monster PL, there is less exp, less equip tier and so on. Believe, if you want to get credits, you dont get them on normal. aye-aye. normal only for trophies/token grinding. or better, at least at hard to not lose shard drops. normal for hit-and-run, prof-grinding GF only
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Dec 29 2014, 12:50
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nec1986
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Im getting 80% overall credits from loot. Total clear bonus from arenas is only 20k and my overall is near 100k per day. Its mostly 2.5-3x credits coef. So if i d clear all on normal (very-very fast) i d get something like 50k without any exp.
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