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With MMax PMI. MMI is below SMax.

dang, the attack speed line moved it, my bad (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Unfortunately, it's the 2 PABs that weight the least on leather (AGI and END).

never understood this. i mean, obviously boosting parry is important, but why isn't important too to raise evade and HP? what's so important in STR that DEX already doesn't, maybe even better?

In the first week with the new changes I did quite a few 5 + 4s but my luck or the mechanics make it pretty hard now. I am not sure if it was luck before or there was a 'fix'.

There was a fix. And some confiscated items if i remember right (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

never understood this. i mean, obviously boosting parry is important, but why isn't important too to raise evade and HP? what's so important in STR that DEX already doesn't, maybe even better?

What I mean is, on leather, STR and DEX values are higher than AGI and END. So a good roll on one of the first two is better than a good roll on one of the last two. Example here with an unforged peerless leather.

What I mean is, on leather, STR and DEX values are higher than AGI and END. So a good roll on one of the first two is better than a good roll on one of the last two. Example here with an unforged peerless leather.

alright, now it does make a bit more sense. but still, all this thinking about SP tank, right? or am i particularly dumb today? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

some calculation
Headache (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Your calculation is wrong. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Let A be the first potency you unlock @ level 1. The chance of getting A in the next level is 50%.
In case you have unlock 2 pontency, let say, A and B. The chance for you to get A is 37.5%, which is same as B.
You can only unlock up to 3 potency in the current patch.

To obtain lv5 + lv 4 on weapon, here are some example case. (only 2 potency, A and B are considered in the following example)

Let assume
C_A as the chance of getting the A when A,B > 0 and A,B < 5, which is 0.375.
C_A_1 as the chance of getting A when A = 0, B = 0, which is 1/number of possible pontency;
C_A_2 as the chance of getting A when A > 0, B = 0, which is 0.5;

C_B as the chance of getting the B when A,B > 0 and A,B < 5, which is 0.375.
C_B_1 as the chance of getting B when B = 0, A > 0 and A < 5, which is 0.5 * 1/(number of possible pontency-1). ;
C_B_2 as the chance of getting B when B = 0 and A = 5, which is 1/(number of possible pontency-1);
C_B_3 as the chance of getting B when A = 5, B >0 , which is 0.75;

For melee weapon, there is only 4 pontency.
So,
C_A = 0.375
C_A_1 = 0.25
C_A_2 = 0.5
C_B= 0.375
C_B_1 = 0.5 * 1/3 ~= 0.16667
C_B_2 ~= 0.33333
C_B_3 = 0.75

1. AAAAABBBB (straight 5 levels then 4 levels)
   The chance = C_A_1 x C_A_2^4 x C_B_2 x C_B_3^3
   = 0.25 * 0.5^4 * 0.33333 * 0.75^3 = 0.0022 = 0.22%
   
2. A + (3xA+4xB in random order) + A
   The chance = C_A_1 x 7!/(3!4!) x C_B_1 x C_A^3 x C_B^3 x C_A
   = 0.25 * 7!/(3!4!) * 0.16667 * 0.375^3 * 0.375^3 * 0.375
   = 0.25 * 7!/(3!4!) * 0.16667 * 0.375^7
   = 0.25 * 35 * 0.375^7
   = 0.009125 = 0.91%
3. A + (3xA+4xB in random order) + B
   The chance = C_A_1 x 7!/(3!4!) x C_B_1 x C_A^3 x C_B^3 x C_B
   = 0.91%
4. lazy to do other cases (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) . Not hard, just lazy to type long paragraphs.

This post has been edited by Colman: Dec 26 2014, 17:55

Your calculation is wrong. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Let A be the first potency you unlock @ level 1. The chance of getting A in the next level is 50%.
In case you have unlock 2 pontecy, let say, A and B. The chance for you to get A is 37.5%, which is same as B.
You can only unlock up to 3 potency in the current patch.

Calculating the actual chance now......

will be updated soon ™ (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

Good to know that my core assumption (uniformly 25%) is wrong (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Good to know that my core assumption (uniformly 25%) is wrong (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

it's right, but only at the first level

What is the preferred potencies for an Ethereal Estoc of Slaughter?

Butcher and Fatality?

This post has been edited by Mantra64: Dec 26 2014, 21:33

What is the preferred potencies for an Ethereal Estoc of Slaughter?

Butcher and Fatality?

I would say Butcher and Overpower.

What is the preferred potencies for an Ethereal Estoc of Slaughter?

Butcher and Fatality?

I would say Butcher and Overpower.

i'd say overpower and fatality, but i don't know what to prioritize among those two. butcher tolerable but those two should be preferred.

if you think about jenga's estoc, personally i don't know why he went for butcher 5 if he had all those BoS available

What is the preferred potencies for an Ethereal Estoc of Slaughter?

Butcher and Fatality?

Overpowerx5 is most important. SS is okay if using with light armor, bad with heavy. If you have shadowdancer, Fatality is ok also. Butcher is good with either heavy or light.

I intend to max this thing

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=c94d420b54

So Owerpower should be maxed. And for the second potency it depends if I want to use it with my heavy or with my light armor...

Heavy Armor

Legendary Cobalt Power Helmet of Slaughter
Magnificent Power Armor of Slaughter
Magnificent Jade Power Gauntlets of Slaughter
Legendary Savage Power Leggings of Slaughter
Exquisite Savage Power Boots of Slaughter

Light Armor

Legendary Cobalt Shade Helmet of the Fleet
Legendary Savage Shade Breastplate of The Fleet
Legendary Cobalt Shade Gauntlets of The Fleet
Legendary Agile Shade Leggings of the Shadowdancer
Legendary Onyx Shade Boots of the Shadowdancer

What is the preferred potencies for an Ethereal Estoc of Slaughter?

Butcher and Fatality?

30+% speed bonus is required to gain 100 oc before the frd stun expire (usually). It's tough for 2h to gain such speed even with full agile armor, so i recommend ss.

Nowadays, if people use 2h without frd, just go to hell...

difficulty

30+% speed bonus is required to gain 100 oc before the frd stun expire (usually). It's tough for 2h to gain such speed even with full agile armor, so i recommend ss.

Nowadays, if people use 2h without frd, just go to hell...

difficulty

So owerpower and swift strike would be what I should look for?

So owerpower and swift strike would be what I should look for?

I would go for Overpowerx5, then some combination of fatality and butcher bc you can use it with light and heavy.

So owerpower and swift strike would be what I should look for?

please put into consideration that i never used estoc other than feeding proficiency at normal difficulty, but that's my experience with frd.

I would go for Overpowerx5, then some combination of fatality and butcher bc you can use it with light and heavy.

Ok, will try that. Thank you (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

30+% speed bonus is required to gain 100 oc before the frd stun expire (usually). It's tough for 2h to gain such speed even with full agile armor, so i recommend ss.

Nowadays, if people use 2h without frd, just go to hell...

difficulty

30% speed bonus can be reached also with stats and agile-prefixed gears, isn't it? at my level and with only one agile armor i have 17%, so i guess he should be already near that 30%...

30% speed bonus can be reached also with stats and agile-prefixed gears, isn't it? at my level and with only one agile armor i have 17%, so i guess he should be already near that 30%...

ss = about 10% (rounded)
prof bonus at lv 500 (the cap) = 12.5%
2x level agility = 10% (the cap)
full agile armor = 10% (by taking 2% average for each piece, imo it's good enough bc armors with good speed are rare)

i hope i didn't miss anything.
He will reach 30ish in near 500 lv with near full agile armor without ss

better to ask directly, your speed bonus please.

This post has been edited by Dead-ed: Dec 27 2014, 00:33

ss = about 10% (rounded)
prof bonus at lv 500 (the cap) = 12.5%
2x level agility = 10% (the cap)
full agile armor = 10% (by taking 2% average for each piece, imo it's good enough bc armors with good speed are rare)

i hope i didn't miss anything.
He will reach 30ish in near 500 lv with near full agile armor without ss
better to ask directly, your speed bonus please.

Here are my Physical attacks stats with light armor

Physical Attack
6588 attack base damage
190.5 % hit chance
47.1 % crit chance / +53 % damage
20.8 % attack speed bonus