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Dec 21 2014, 18:14
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Dan31
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QUOTE(kainord @ Dec 21 2014, 16:59)  I saw that people did shrining results, like shrined 1000 staffs from noodly or horn and so. But did someone a result like shrining voicebox and compare how each equipment targets differ? I shrined yesterday all my trophy. targeted 1H and staff. and there was 1 significant result that made me think of this. Inone instance 1 shrined 500 something, 250 1H and 250 staff. And i did get in the 1H only scrap, 3 or 6 prefixed superior items and an avarage wakizashi, but in the staff i got significantly more usable items like 10 exquisites. So the question is, did someone made a comparison in which tried to figure out which trophy has a higher chance to get better 1H, 2H, staff or any other equipment? I quess Noodly is an overall joker, but perhaps the rest can be influenced?
I think that staffs give better results overall, though you need luck with prefix/type/suffix to get usable ones. And even if you get bad mag/leg, you can salvage it for a high grade wood (which is currently the most expensive high grade mat).
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Dec 21 2014, 20:10
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Shinko.Aelith
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What equipment can you recommend me ? I'm actually playing Nintendo difficulty using DW + light armor : exquisite arctic shortsword of slaughter exquisite axe of slaughter exquisite onyx leather helmet of warding exquisite reinforced leather breastplate of protection legendary agile leather gauntlets of warding magnificient leather leggings of warding exquisite jade leather boots of deflection
Well, I think it's time for me to play with more seriousness so I'm asking some advices ^^
This post has been edited by Shinko.Aelith: Dec 21 2014, 20:26
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Dec 21 2014, 20:27
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Cleavs
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try a rapier instead of one of those two weapons
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Dec 21 2014, 21:24
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How do you install Mousemelee on Chrome? All I get is a webpage, no file to download...
And by the way, i'm using Tampermonkey on Chrome for other scripts.
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Dec 21 2014, 21:30
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Dan31
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QUOTE(Shinko.Aelith @ Dec 21 2014, 19:10)  What equipment can you recommend me ? I'm actually playing Nintendo difficulty using DW + light armor : exquisite arctic shortsword of slaughter exquisite axe of slaughter exquisite onyx leather helmet of warding exquisite reinforced leather breastplate of protection legendary agile leather gauntlets of warding magnificient leather leggings of warding exquisite jade leather boots of deflection
Well, I think it's time for me to play with more seriousness so I'm asking some advices ^^
http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Fighting_Styles#Dual_WieldingSwitching those two weapons would already give better result since the weapon placed in offhand gets +50% parry and -50% damage. Axes have a high attack damage and no parry, so it doesn't make sense to wield one in offhand. Besides, the offhand weapon's accuracy boosts offhand strike chance rather than accuracy. The recommended setup is a Club of Slaughter in main hand (Stun is great for defense) and a Rapier (for penetrated armor, very useful to kill monsters quicker) of Balance (for crit and offhand strike chance) or Nimble (for parry). You can also use an Axe of Slaughter in main hand if you want to go for pure damage. Another viable setup would be to use a Rapier of Slaughter in main hand and Wakizashi of Balance/Nimble/Swiftness in offhand to benefit from the high parry of waki while still have penetrated armor for damage, but that's more expensive. If possible, use ethereal weapons to get less burden and thus more evade. Regarding armor, use gear with the Protection suffix when available. While magic attacks are highly damaging, they are much rarer than melee attacks, so Warding isn't as useful. You can try to buy some shade from auctions, you may see interesting magnificent for as low as 50k nowadays. Shade has no burden at all, and is best used with ethereal to get no penalty at all from burden. QUOTE(The Magi @ Dec 21 2014, 20:24)  How do you install Mousemelee on Chrome? All I get is a webpage, no file to download...
And by the way, i'm using Tampermonkey on Chrome for other scripts.
Use the html page to generate the script with the options you want. Or try the MouseMelee in my sig, although I'm not sure it works with Chrome. This post has been edited by Dan31: Dec 21 2014, 21:50
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Dec 21 2014, 22:06
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Shinko.Aelith
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Dec 21 2014, 21:27)  try a rapier instead of one of those two weapons
Rapier ? Won't it lower my attack base damage too much ? And what are the best suffixes/prefixes to privilege ?
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Dec 21 2014, 22:19
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Shinko.Aelith @ Dec 21 2014, 21:06)  Rapier ? Won't it lower my attack base damage too much ?
And what are the best suffixes/prefixes to privilege ?
yes, ADB will be indeed reduced a bit, especially if compared with an axe. but rapiers have the penetrated armor effect which will reduce PMI of mobs, making it actually more valuable than pure firepower; also, compared to axes, they have more accuracy, parry and slightly better PABs. give it a try. as for suffixes, it depends: if you're using it as mainhand, slaughter undoubtedly. as offhand, either nimble or balance. either case, maximum penetrated armor stats are 25% for 7 turns, so try to pick a weapon as close as possible to these values. it's ok even if some of the other stats are so-so, since you can't raise PA stats in any way. This post has been edited by Scremaz: Dec 21 2014, 22:22
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Dec 21 2014, 22:52
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Dan31
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QUOTE(crazy3d @ Dec 21 2014, 21:06)  Soooo should I leave my monster with 3 attacks or just the strongest? Real question (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) Sorry, what? QUOTE(Shinko.Aelith @ Dec 21 2014, 21:27)  Alright, I'll give it a try. Thanks. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) And for light armors ? See my answer. This post has been edited by Dan31: Dec 21 2014, 23:02
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Dec 21 2014, 23:11
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nec1986
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Looks like figures is quite rare loot? Got only 1 zecora.
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Dec 21 2014, 23:21
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Dan31
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Dec 21 2014, 22:11)  Looks like figures is quite rare loot? Got only 1 zecora.
Yeah, they are kinda rare. They are worth about 50k each nowadays. If you collect 21 different figurines, you will unlock the Orbital Friendship Cannon (OFC), which hits all enemies for massive void damage (200 OC, 50 turn cooldown). Best used with 1H, which lacks AoE otherwise and can generate OC more easily than any other style, moreover the bonus damage multiplier from Overwhelming Strikes is applied to it as well. The OFC is boosted by attack damage, and that includes things like the bonus damage from Heartseeker and Spirit Stance.
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Dec 21 2014, 23:23
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-Hiiro-
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QUOTE(Dan31 @ Dec 21 2014, 23:30) 
Use the html page to generate the script with the options you want.
Or try the MouseMelee in my sig, although I'm not sure it works with Chrome.
Well, this is what I don't understand, how do i generate the script? Normally I download a script and then import the zip file directly to Tampermonkey. But this time I'm at a complete lost at what to do (I cannot even edit the Html page but I can copy it. However I don't know where to paste it (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) ) Isn't there a step by step guide or anyone using Mousemelee on Chrome who can help me here? And yours too make me go to an HTML page, then I don't know what to do but i dom't think it will work on Chrome since yours is for Mozilla.
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Dec 21 2014, 23:41
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Dan31
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QUOTE(The Magi @ Dec 21 2014, 22:23)  Well, this is what I don't understand, how do i generate the script? Normally I download a script and then import the zip file directly to Tampermonkey. But this time I'm at a complete lost at what to do (I cannot even edit the Html page but I can copy it. However I don't know where to paste it (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) ) Isn't there a step by step guide or anyone using Mousemelee on Chrome who can help me here? And yours too make me go to an HTML page, then I don't know what to do but i dom't think it will work on Chrome since yours is for Mozilla. You need to download the html (right click > save target as), then use it with the options you want to generate the script. Then open the script with a text editor (it should say "UserScript" in the header at the very top), select all the text (Ctrl+A), copy it (Ctrl+C), then go to Tampermonkey and create a new script, delete the default header/text, and paste the script (Ctrl+V). Mine doesn't have that, it's directly the script itself. You can copy it and follow the same steps to install it in Tampermonkey. I don't think it works with Chrome, hence why I dubbed it "for Firefox". This post has been edited by Dan31: Dec 21 2014, 23:45
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Dec 21 2014, 23:41
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QUOTE(Dan31 @ Dec 21 2014, 08:52)  Sorry, what?
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Dec 21 2014, 23:46
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Dan31
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QUOTE(crazy3d @ Dec 21 2014, 22:41) 
You can't.
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Dec 21 2014, 23:56
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Cleavs
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and besides, unbaptized monsters and skills without a name can't be used in battle, so you should rather name them as soon as possible
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Dec 22 2014, 00:03
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Dan31
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Dec 21 2014, 22:56)  and besides, unbaptized monsters and skills without a name can't be used in battle, so you should rather name them as soon as possible
Well, crazy3d was wondering if there was a way for example to have the second skill active and not the first, so that the strong second skill would always be picked over the weaker first. And the answer is no.
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Dec 22 2014, 00:14
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Dan31 @ Dec 21 2014, 23:03)  Well, crazy3d was wondering if there was a way for example to have the second skill active and not the first, so that the strong second skill would always be picked over the weaker first. And the answer is no.
ah, ok. didn't understand it at first. but is it really reported? i mean, does this happen only because nobody has ever thought to name only the second or because it's actually a step procedure?
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Dec 22 2014, 00:26
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QUOTE(Dan31 @ Dec 21 2014, 10:03)  Well, crazy3d was wondering if there was a way for example to have the second skill active and not the first, so that the strong second skill would always be picked over the weaker first. And the answer is no.
Something like that ya. I know they can't be deleted tho, I was obviously talking about erasing the names. So I guess it's just worthless (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/lurk.gif)
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