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post Dec 20 2014, 18:33
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Already have 1.4 version.

I mean something like this one.
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=40652729f4
Not the best stats, but 25% stun chance for 3 turns with 3 attributes.
Or this one.
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=ac7d70a45e
Again bad stats, but damage roll isnt so bad.

Or just bazaar it?

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post Dec 20 2014, 19:52
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Dec 20 2014, 17:33) *

Already have 1.4 version.

I mean something like this one.
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=40652729f4
Not the best stats, but 25% stun chance for 3 turns with 3 attributes.
Or this one.
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=ac7d70a45e
Again bad stats, but damage roll isnt so bad.

Or just bazaar it?

Bazaar/salvage:
- all average (and below) gear
- all superior weapons without an elemental strike
- gear without all possible PABs (maybe keep Phase with INT/WIS, Power with STR/DEX, weapons with STR/DEX)
- staffs with unmatching prefix/type/suffix (except when Holy is involved maybe)
- leather/plate of stoneskin
- shields with poor block chance
- etc.

Keep obsolete weapons (Fine/Flimsy quality, Gossamer/Kevlar/Shield armor, scythe, etc.) though.

Or follow the same guidelines as the Free Shop. If the Free Shop wouldn't accept the gear, trash it.
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post Dec 20 2014, 21:08
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Proficiency levels.
I want to ask how much the proficiency change things? As i use nitten, my "h and Dual profs are stagnating, so time to time i need to raise them. So i ask, what the profs boost? Hit chance? Damage? Crit?
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post Dec 20 2014, 21:16
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QUOTE(kainord @ Dec 20 2014, 20:08) *

Proficiency levels.
I want to ask how much the proficiency change things? As i use nitten, my "h and Dual profs are stagnating, so time to time i need to raise them. So i ask, what the profs boost? Hit chance? Damage? Crit?

Check your Abilities, Niten Ichiryuu tab. It gets Damage and Parry from 2H prof, and Accuracy and Crit from DW prof (provided you unlocked and slotted the abilities of course).

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post Dec 20 2014, 21:39
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So if my prof is too low, i get lesser damage, parry, Accuracy and Crit ?
You know, i ask this because if you play anything else, you don't need to think about proficiency, but time to time, in nitten you need to raise to max the 2H and Dual profs. So a 50 level difference shows itself in my attacks. My dual is low, but 2H was maxed when i changed to nitten

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post Dec 20 2014, 22:00
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QUOTE(kainord @ Dec 20 2014, 12:39) *

So if my prof is too low, i get lesser damage, parry, Accuracy and Crit ?
You know, i ask this because if you play anything else, you don't need to think about proficiency, but time to time, in nitten you need to raise to max the 2H and Dual profs. So a 50 level difference shows itself in my attacks. My dual is low, but 2H was maxed when i changed to nitten

your equipment links please.
Interested in your hit chance, parry, evade, &pmi.
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post Dec 20 2014, 22:17
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Sorry for the delay, i was in an arena (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Here are my equips :
Legendary Hallowed Katana of Balance
Legendary Tempestuous Wakizashi of Balance
Exquisite Ruby Shade Helmet of the Fleet
Exquisite Agile Shade Breastplate of Negation
Exquisite Shade Gauntlets of the Arcanist
Superior Shade Leggings of the Arcanist
Exquisite Jade Shade Boots of the Arcanist

I got :
Health points 20143
Magic points 1764
Spirit points 1270

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post Dec 20 2014, 22:32
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Seeing your level, I thought your armor would be better than that. There is even a superior in the lot. Also, why Arcanist? For the lower interference and hitting more easily with Dark spells/Drain? Shouldn't you focus on Fleet/Shadowdancer instead?
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post Dec 20 2014, 22:40
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First, the maintenance cost of mag or higher is too much for me to bear, i just collected 4 mill credit to raise LotD to max, and i need to get another 33 mill to raise the rest too. I use the best i had, the arcanists are there because of the PAB-s 6-5-6. I don't have spare Credits to buy high tear equips (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Dec 20 2014, 22:45
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QUOTE(kainord @ Dec 20 2014, 21:40) *

First, the maintenance cost of mag or higher is too much for me to bear, i just collected 4 mill credit to raise LotD to max, and i need to get another 33 mill to raise the rest too. I use the best i had, the arcanists are there because of the PAB-s 6-5-6. I don't have spare Credits to buy high tear equips (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Isn't the maintenance cost of Magnificent the same as the one of Exquisite? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
Plus, the maintenance cost is still cheap overall, provided you repair at 80~76 or 60~51% durability.

Also, a mag shade (with 4 PABs and good stats) is much cheaper than the astronomic numbers you just said.

See by yourself:
wannaf's auction
jenga's auction
wannaf's auction

There are even leg shade pieces going for as low as 50k. You have no excuse.

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post Dec 20 2014, 22:50
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QUOTE(kainord @ Dec 20 2014, 13:40) *

First, the maintenance cost of mag or higher is too much for me to bear, i just collected 4 mill credit to raise LotD to max, and i need to get another 33 mill to raise the rest too. I use the best i had, the arcanists are there because of the PAB-s 6-5-6. I don't have spare Credits to buy high tear equips (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

not interested in playing in high difficulty? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Dec 20 2014, 23:01
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@Dead-Ed
what do you mean high difficulty? i do Arenas on PFUDOR-IWBTH levels, and the last 3 only lower levels cause the time consumption.
@Dan31
Here is why i used arcanist and not fleet
Magnificent Onyx Shade Boots of the Fleet
If you check my arcanist Boot, i think that is better then this magnificent.
Higher quality you must pay more scraps for each % damage, so it's slightly higher then exquisite, and the catalyst cost more too (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) i'm a cheapskate, after i payed my gold star, i need to train. But LotD was tottaly worth it, i get so much rare equips now, that i can sell back.

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post Dec 20 2014, 23:09
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QUOTE(kainord @ Dec 20 2014, 14:01) *

@Dead-Ed
what do you mean high difficulty? i do Arenas on PFUDOR-IWBTH levels, and the last 3 only lower levels cause the time consumption.
@Dan31
Here is why i used arcanist and not fleet
Magnificent Onyx Shade Boots of the Fleet
If you check my arcanist Boot, i think that is better then this magnificent.
Higher quality you must pay more scraps for each % damage, so it's slightly higher then exquisite, and the catalyst cost more too (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) i'm a cheapskate, after i payed my gold star, i need to train. But LotD was tottaly worth it, i get so much rare equips now, that i can sell back.

i forgot the benefit of gold star
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post Dec 20 2014, 23:14
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QUOTE(kainord @ Dec 20 2014, 22:40) *

First, the maintenance cost of mag or higher is too much for me to bear, i just collected 4 mill credit to raise LotD to max, and i need to get another 33 mill to raise the rest too. I use the best i had, the arcanists are there because of the PAB-s 6-5-6. I don't have spare Credits to buy high tear equips (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)



Hold on! I'm still a newbie, but... How did you raised 4 mil? I can't even pass the 100k... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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post Dec 20 2014, 23:16
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Yes, the gold star is really great. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) But, it was almost that much that i need now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) And i got only tomorrow to play the full day, after that my 17-18 hour net time changes to work time.
@ AshleyXRiott
I could only get 4 million in 6-8 days because of my level and gold star.
But here is an advice for you
Train these 4 : Scavenger. Luck of the Draw, Quartermaster, Archeologist.
Do all the arenas, i did it on normal when i collected Credits for the Gold star, but you can play on the level you can complete them 100%. The goal is, finishing the arena and get the completion credits. You get Credits from the enemys, and equips that you can sell. Lock every equipment that are higher then superiors, so prefixed superior->exquisite->prefixed exquisite and so. If you got a nice amount, 2-300 of them or more, sell them all, i got 250k C just selling them. And i didn't sold the rare items, like wakizashi, katana, katalox, power, phase, shade, force, that's another 4-500 k Credit.
Get monsters and train them at least until 250 power level, check them daily and let them hunger a bit, they bring you nice bindings that you can sell.
Shrine the Artifacts and sell the Energy Drinks, Haths.
Sell everything that you don't use, in my case scrolls, except gods and avatar, infusions, materials, bindings.
Keep your blood tokens until you can go in to the last one (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) do the rest only once to get the prize.

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post Dec 20 2014, 23:32
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Question: are the Protection elemental upgrades really worth it? Do their spike damage increase with higher proficiency in their element (like, i have weapons with +15 Wind Damage, do Wind Spikes do more damage as well?)

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post Dec 20 2014, 23:37
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QUOTE(kainord @ Dec 20 2014, 23:16) *

Yes, the gold star is really great. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) But, it was almost that much that i need now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) And i got only tomorrow to play the full day, after that my 17-18 hour net time changes to work time.
@ AshleyXRiott
I could only get 4 million in 6-8 days because of my level and gold star.
But here is an advice for you
Train these 4 : Scavenger. Luck of the Draw, Quartermaster, Archeologist.
Do all the arenas, i did it on normal when i collected Credits for the Gold star, but you can play on the level you can complete them 100%. The goal is, finishing the arena and get the completion credits. You get Credits from the enemys, and equips that you can sell. Lock every equipment that are higher then superiors, so prefixed superior->exquisite->prefixed exquisite and so. If you got a nice amount, 2-300 of them or more, sell them all, i got 250k C just selling them. And i didn't sold the rare items, like wakizashi, katana, katalox, power, phase, shade, force, that's another 4-500 k Credit.
Get monsters and train them at least until 250 power level, check them daily and let them hunger a bit, they bring you nice bindings that you can sell.
Shrine the Artifacts and sell the Energy Drinks, Haths.
Sell everything that you don't use, in my case scrolls, except gods and avatar, infusions, materials, bindings.
Keep your blood tokens until you can go in to the last one (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) do the rest only once to get the prize.



You are awesome sir! Thanks for the info!
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post Dec 21 2014, 01:25
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QUOTE(kainord @ Dec 20 2014, 20:39) *

You know, i ask this because if you play anything else, you don't need to think about proficiency, but time to time, in nitten you need to raise to max the 2H and Dual profs. So a 50 level difference shows itself in my attacks.


And that's why Niten sucks so much it could suck basketballs through a straw.

If only it granted proficiency even just at a slower pace, it could be somewhat viable.
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post Dec 21 2014, 01:36
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QUOTE(Hoheneim @ Dec 21 2014, 01:25) *

And that's why Niten sucks so much it could suck basketballs through a straw.

If only it granted proficiency even just at a slower pace, it could be somewhat viable.


Because that is the implication behind niten style . To grind and master both 2H style , 1H style and DW style first so you be the master of all styles and well verses in the art of B-grade HIND side spanking(mage spell casting) /impaling(piercing) /stomping(crushing) /whipping(slashing) . Only once you have learned all the arts will thy be blessed with the knowledge to grant thee with power of 3 angels that banished the darkness known as aku from its void existence and upgrade thy sword style to the level that was once wielded by samurai known only as jack the one to wield the sword bleseed with such power later changed into niten style... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) wachow samurai jack samurai jack ... samurai jack .. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

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post Dec 21 2014, 02:11
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QUOTE(kainord @ Dec 20 2014, 22:01) *

@Dan31
Here is why i used arcanist and not fleet
Magnificent Onyx Shade Boots of the Fleet
If you check my arcanist Boot, i think that is better then this magnificent.

Uh? It's not. It's definitely not. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

QUOTE(kainord @ Dec 20 2014, 22:01) *

Higher quality you must pay more scraps for each % damage, so it's slightly higher then exquisite, and the catalyst cost more too (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) i'm a cheapskate, after i payed my gold star, i need to train. But LotD was tottaly worth it, i get so much rare equips now, that i can sell back.

You are a cheapskate, indeed. Or you just don't want to upgrade and level up your gear again, and that I can understand.

QUOTE(Zaesha @ Dec 20 2014, 22:32) *

Question: are the Protection elemental upgrades really worth it? Do their spike damage increase with higher proficiency in their element (like, i have weapons with +15 Wind Damage, do Wind Spikes do more damage as well?)

You can ignore the spike shield upgrades if you want to spare Ability Points. The first level is all you really need. Or put one point for the +10 elemental mit, just because it's cheap.

And no, the damage isn't boosted by your edb. The damage is so ridiculous it probably wouldn't change anything anyway. What matters is the debuff lowering an elemental mitigation by 25% (if you have a weapon with the corresponding strike or are an elemental mage) and reducing damage by 10%.

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