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Dec 11 2014, 15:35
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(xcaliber9999 @ Dec 11 2014, 14:22)  1st
I am planning to IW my slaughter rapier and was wondering which Potencies to get. Butcher/Fatality/Overpower/Swift Strike ??? Also in which difficultly I should clear it.
fatality and butcher for 1H, but don't get too mad about a couple levels of overpower, since you won't have overwhelming strikes always active. also, your call between F5B4 or F4B5, but personally i prefer fatality over butcher since the latter can still be forged (and it doesn't contribute too much to ADB afterall) fatality and overpower for DW, but butcher is acceptable too QUOTE(xcaliber9999 @ Dec 11 2014, 14:22)  2nd
I am not joking but I forgot which arena lvl Invisible Pink Unicorn appear. Or is it just appear in ROB arena only ?
RoB only. its own and TT&T QUOTE(xcaliber9999 @ Dec 11 2014, 14:22)  i'd pick the 4PAB one: END is always appreciated, and the raise in stat compared to the other isn't so big. it only has quite lower STR, but not that big of a deal
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Dec 11 2014, 15:36
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kumosu
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QUOTE(DaReaper @ Dec 11 2014, 18:41)  Sadly , i can barely do nightmare arena atm, maybe you can check the gears that i am running? I might be doing something wrong when atempting arena
For training: priority on pack rat, 50 abilities (don't need more than that), then +1 adept for every 100k you able to earn. Drops relate training are credits trap if you can't even do battletoads on non SG arenas. You'll need at least 6/10 p rat for Battletoads. For stats: get rid of Int if you haven't done so, and have Wis=LV-20 then balance the rest of your stats. For equips: yours are ok, better than average players, but you'll need to replace at least 3 pierce of power slaughter for better game play and for higher difficulty. Look for Slaughter ones that will +150 ADB compare to your old one and have at least 2 PAB with END. Oh, and do IW your rapier when you have free time, or pay someone to do it for void strikes. QUOTE(p3epe @ Dec 11 2014, 21:24)  Regarding upgrades via item world.
IW while aiming for certain potency is a long and painful progress, even for mid-high LV players. For peace of mind, just get the extra element strike at LV10 for your weapon is enough. In fact, don't bother with IW until LV250. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) QUOTE(jasonp20 @ Dec 11 2014, 21:25)  I just got a second Spitfire Figurine. Are these better to sell, trade in at the shrine, or is there something else I can do with it?
You can unlock the awesome OFC after getting 21 different figurines, so it's valuable, but not many can afford to buy 'em. Check if you can afford spend neal 1 mil credits for OFC, or just sell them for quick cash. (I can buy 1 for 45k, if you interested (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ) QUOTE(xcaliber9999 @ Dec 11 2014, 22:22)  I am not joking but I forgot which arena lvl Invisible Pink Unicorn appear. Or is it just appear in ROB arena only ?
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Among these two which one is better -
2. ROB only 3. 1, consider that you can't forge non-exist stat, 4PAB is better overall. This post has been edited by kumosu: Dec 11 2014, 15:43
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Dec 11 2014, 15:36
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djackallstar
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QUOTE(xcaliber9999 @ Dec 11 2014, 21:22)  I am planning to IW my slaughter rapier and was wondering which Potencies to get. Butcher/Fatality/Overpower/Swift Strike ??? Also in which difficultly I should clear it.
1-1 According to Cats Lover, 1H + Heavy: Butcher > Fatality >> Everything else 1H + Light: Butcher > Fatality >> Everything else According to Dan31, 1H + Heavy: Fatality > Butcher 1-2 In the first run, clear it at the difficulty that won't make the equip to Lv.2, so when you see a potency you don't want, you can reforge it with only 1 Amnesia Shard. In the second run, clear it at the difficulty that won't make the equip to Lv.3, so when you see a potency you don't want, you can reforge it with only 2 Amnesia Shards. If you want to get Butcher 5, you should try to get Butcher 2 in the first two runs. If your rapier is ethereal, I suggest you aim for Butcher 5 (or Butcher 3 if you are on a budget) + some levels of Fatality; or Holy/Dark Strike. If your rapier is not ethereal, I suggest you aim for Butcher 5 (or Butcher 3 if you are on a budget) + some levels of Fatality. This post has been edited by djackallstar: Dec 11 2014, 15:50
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Dec 11 2014, 15:39
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Dan31
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QUOTE(xcaliber9999 @ Dec 11 2014, 14:22)  I am planning to IW my slaughter rapier and was wondering which Potencies to get. Butcher/Fatality/Overpower/Swift Strike ??? Also in which difficultly I should clear it.
Aim for Fatality and Butcher. Overpower isn't very useful since 1H has Overwhelming Strikes and Stun. Swift Strike is even less useful since your attack speed is reduced by heavy armor's high burden (unless you use featherweight shards). QUOTE(xcaliber9999 @ Dec 11 2014, 14:22)  I am not joking but I forgot which arena lvl Invisible Pink Unicorn appear. Or is it just appear in ROB arena only ?
Just in RoB. QUOTE(xcaliber9999 @ Dec 11 2014, 14:22)  When in doubt, always pick the one with the most PABs (ie the first one).
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Dec 11 2014, 15:39
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(xcaliber9999 @ Dec 11 2014, 14:22)  Also in which difficultly I should clear it.
forgot this. to spare some amnesias i suggest you to do the first run on hell/nintendo and resetting it if it isn't your most desired potency. second run, idem. all the subsequent ones on IWTBH
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Dec 11 2014, 15:51
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xcaliber9999
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NVM Thanks a lot guys for all the info (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) This post has been edited by xcaliber9999: Dec 11 2014, 15:53
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Dec 11 2014, 16:00
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Dan31
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QUOTE(xcaliber9999 @ Dec 11 2014, 14:51)  Thanks a lot for the info guys (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) So its between Butcher and Fatality. Btw I forgot to ask when I should use amnesia shards? (if things are not going as planned or should I lvl up couple more to see what happens?) Any preference on which strike to get (holy/dark ... etc) Also does difficult matter while IW (except unlocking Potencies fast) As Scremaz said, reset if the first few levels aren't to your liking in terms of potencies. For the higher levels, it depends on whether you want to do it all over again, and how late you get the wrong potencies. Regarding the strike, Dark is the best, Holy a close second best, and then there is the rest. As Scremaz said, you can use the lower difficulties to limit how many first potencies you will get (ie to get them one by one, which is cheaper to reset shard-wise). Otherwise, clear at IWBTH or PFUDOR difficulty.
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Dec 11 2014, 16:01
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(xcaliber9999 @ Dec 11 2014, 14:51)  Btw I forgot to ask when I should use amnesia shards? (if things are not going as planned or should I lvl up couple more to see what happens?)
Any preference on which strike to get (holy/dark ... etc)
Also does difficult matter while IW (except unlocking Potencies fast)
this is jenga's method: QUOTE(jenga201 @ May 22 2014, 20:21)  My IW method for potency lvl 5 is;
All IWBTH/PFUDOR runs. If you don't get what is needed for that run, reset.
Run 1 - Get Lvl 2 of potency you want Run 2 - Get 1 more potency, 2nd doesn't matter Run 3/4 - Get 1 more potency Run 5-9 - Hope for last potency
This method is aggressive but will save shards in the long term by capitalizing on the existing potency boost.
but since i'm always low on shards i prefer to divide the first run into two to have a better control i guess best strike atm would be dark because of celestials and SG; holy is good too because of SG and FSM; acceptable are cold for arthropods/dragonkins and wind for giants/dragonkins; elec and fire not so good the best difficulty is the highest you can deal, since bringing home a few PXP is still better than trying for many PXP and fail
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Dec 11 2014, 17:01
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xcaliber9999
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thanks again Scremaz and Dan31 for detailed info (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I can feel that the road to get perfect potency is looooog for me ... already run 3 times and I got ---> swift strike, again swift strike and overpower (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) This post has been edited by xcaliber9999: Dec 11 2014, 17:02
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Dec 11 2014, 17:09
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Dead-ed
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I need swift strike for my wakizashi duh
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Dec 11 2014, 17:15
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Colman
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QUOTE(xcaliber9999 @ Dec 11 2014, 23:01)  thanks again Scremaz and Dan31 for detailed info (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I can feel that the road to get perfect potency is looooog for me ... already run 3 times and I got ---> swift strike, again swift strike and overpower (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Any potencies are almost the same for 1H shade player. For 1H heavy, Overpower is useless. No reason to reforge for minimal effect.
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Dec 11 2014, 17:20
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DaReaper
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Can i get an explanation regards to the difference between strikes ( dark / holy ) and hallowed / demonic weapons? I thought all weapons get void strike when reaching lvl 10? Couple of advice here recommends hallowed weapons which is holy strike? yet says dark strike is the best strike. Kinda confused here. Or are they refering to the potency for strikes? if so would the hallowed/ demonic strikes stacks with them?
Thanks and hi Dan, that script is running good, and thanks for the advice but ya slaughter equips don't drop easily. still accumulating those credits atm. <3
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Dec 11 2014, 17:37
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Dan31
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QUOTE(DaReaper @ Dec 11 2014, 16:20)  Can i get an explanation regards to the difference between strikes ( dark / holy ) and hallowed / demonic weapons?
Hallowed and Demonic weapons have Holy and Dark strike respectively, but also bonus Holy and Dark spell damage respectively. Since Holy boosts the power of the Cure spells, it means that Hallowed weapons are basically better. The bonus spell damage isn't here if you only have the strike (from an ethereal weapon lvl 10 or from infusions). QUOTE(DaReaper @ Dec 11 2014, 16:20)  I thought all weapons get void strike when reaching lvl 10?
Non-ethereal ones have their damage type changing to Void and gain Void Strike (and they keep their burden/interference). Ethereal ones get a random elemental strike. QUOTE(DaReaper @ Dec 11 2014, 16:20)  Couple of advice here recommends hallowed weapons which is holy strike? yet says dark strike is the best strike. Kinda confused here. Or are they refering to the potency for strikes? if so would the hallowed/ demonic strikes stacks with them?
Demonic weapons are stronger offensively compared to Hallowed (not by much), Hallowed weapons are almost as strong and have that bonus Holy Spell Damage that boosts Cure. But if we're just talking about the strike of a lvl 10 ethereal weapon, since there isn't the spell damage bonus, dark strike is the best strike. QUOTE(DaReaper @ Dec 11 2014, 16:20)  Thanks and hi Dan, that script is running good, and thanks for the advice but ya slaughter equips don't drop easily. still accumulating those credits atm. <3
Oh, so it finally works for you? Good to hear that. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) You can get some nice gear from shops, browse them. And I see Legendary Power of Protection/Warding selling for 50~100k in auctions. This post has been edited by Dan31: Dec 11 2014, 17:42
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Dec 11 2014, 17:40
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Colman
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QUOTE(DaReaper @ Dec 11 2014, 23:20)  Can i get an explanation regards to the difference between strikes ( dark / holy ) and hallowed / demonic weapons? I thought all weapons get void strike when reaching lvl 10? Couple of advice here recommends hallowed weapons which is holy strike? yet says dark strike is the best strike. Kinda confused here. Or are they refering to the potency for strikes? if so would the hallowed/ demonic strikes stacks with them?
Thanks and hi Dan, that script is running good, and thanks for the advice but ya slaughter equips don't drop easily. still accumulating those credits atm. <3
- Elemental weapons will always get void strike at lv10. - Ethereal weapon will get one of the elemental strike randomly at lv10. Though they looked the same (elemtnal strike + void strike + void melee damage), they are not. Elemental weapon also boost the magic of corresponding element. And hallowed weapon can also boost cure effect. Ethereal will never get the magic boost but they come with 0 burden/interference. The best melee weapon are - Ethereal weapon + holy/dark strike - hallowed weapon + lv10 This post has been edited by Colman: Dec 11 2014, 17:47
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Dec 11 2014, 17:41
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(xcaliber9999 @ Dec 11 2014, 16:01)  I can feel that the road to get perfect potency is looooog for me ... already run 3 times and I got ---> swift strike, again swift strike and overpower (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) yup, i know that feel. my actual rapier unlocked fatality 5 just at IW9, and meanwhile not even one butcher. but i'm not parhanoic enough to reforge it (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) QUOTE(Colman @ Dec 11 2014, 16:15)  For 1H heavy, Overpower is useless.
swift strike too. QUOTE(Colman @ Dec 11 2014, 16:15)  No reason to reforge for minimal effect.
yup. QUOTE(DaReaper @ Dec 11 2014, 16:20)  I thought all weapons get void strike when reaching lvl 10?
indeed, all weapons become hollowforged ( = their damage is converted to void type) and receive a supplemental void strike at IW10, except for ethereal ones, which already owns it: in this case they acquire another strike chosen at random among the other 6 (my ethereal rapier have wind strike, for example) QUOTE(DaReaper @ Dec 11 2014, 16:20)  Can i get an explanation regards to the difference between strikes ( dark / holy ) and hallowed / demonic weapons?
there's absolutely no difference from the dark strike (or another one) you earn with weapon's own prefix and with IW10, apart from the fact that it's quite hard to earn a certain type (you have only 17% chance, afterall), so one may prefer a prefixed weapon to be sure to have the element he wants. the only exception is holy case: the presence of holy EDB (thus, hallowed-prefixed weapons) can boost your Cure spell while IW10 holy strike cannot. but apart from this, they are the same thing too QUOTE(DaReaper @ Dec 11 2014, 16:20)  Couple of advice here recommends hallowed weapons which is holy strike? yet says dark strike is the best strike. Kinda confused here.
it depends a lot on your tastes and the mobs you meet the most, thus you may opt for the strike that advantages you the most. the thing that deals the most damage is void main damage, while all the rest is a (smaller) bonus: still good, but only a bonus. for example a while ago, when many arthropods and giants may span on the same round, cold strike was very useful; now that celestials are spreading as if there won't be a tomorrow, i'd pick dark strike (if i had the chance to do so); someone other may still prefer the cure bonus - 1500 free HP out of 6k is quite tempting, tbh QUOTE(DaReaper @ Dec 11 2014, 16:20)  Or are they refering to the potency for strikes? if so would the hallowed/ demonic strikes stacks with them?
the elemental strike stacks with all the rest, yup: an IW10 weapon (no matter which kind) will always hit with void damage (the biggest contribution), void strike (half of ADB? not sure) and elemental damage (which have various impacts depending on the nature of the mob)
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Dec 11 2014, 17:47
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DaReaper
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Thanks for all the explanation, understood well. Guess getting a good weapon is gona take time.
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Dec 11 2014, 17:49
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kumosu
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QUOTE(DaReaper @ Dec 12 2014, 00:20)  Thanks and hi Dan, that script is running good, and thanks for the advice but ya slaughter equips don't drop easily. still accumulating those credits atm. <3
Even this cheap 10k Superior Power Armor of Slaughter is still better in ADB than your armoo... WAITAMINUTE, you didn't REPAIR your equips?!? Don't let it fall below 50% condition like that (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) .
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Dec 11 2014, 17:53
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(kumosu @ Dec 11 2014, 16:49)  Even this cheap 10k Superior Power Armor of Slaughter is still better in ADB than your armoo... not that bad to be a superior. apart for BUR and PABs it isn't so different from my Exq one...
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Dec 12 2014, 02:03
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jasonp20
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QUOTE(kumosu @ Dec 11 2014, 15:36)  You can unlock the awesome OFC after getting 21 different figurines, so it's valuable, but not many can afford to buy 'em. Check if you can afford spend neal 1 mil credits for OFC, or just sell them for quick cash. (I can buy 1 for 45k, if you interested (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ) Yes, I already read about the OFC. I already have several but this is my first duplicate. How would I go about trading it?
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Dec 12 2014, 02:23
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kumosu
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QUOTE(jasonp20 @ Dec 12 2014, 09:03)  Yes, I already read about the OFC. I already have several but this is my first duplicate. How would I go about trading it?
In WTB sub forum, like this guy: https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=3687128
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