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This discussion about debuffs makes me wonder. How do you experts play through combat as an elemental mage? (I'm also curious about how other playstyles play so everyone else can chime in too).

I have been just casting the weakest level of spell on everything and occasionally melee attacking to collect coalesced mana buff from mobs that are 1 melee hit away from death or when I can 2x stack the mana buff. I usually only cast silence, weaken, and imperil on bosses and IWBTH random encounters.

Do people cast imperil on everything when it gets 3 aoe+0 cd before they blast away with their spell? Or only when it gets to the later arena stages/grindfest with more mobs?

Always appreciate the helpful advice you experts give (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

It really depended on your gears.
For 2.0 prof factor mage, the damage is lower, but do not depended on imperil most of the times. Only need to imperil boss+ monsters.
For 5 phase + destruction/EBD staff, many players imperil everything before hitting.

Which one is better? You need to try them by yourself.

I cast Imperil on most/all monsters, then blast them away. If the non-imperiled monsters seem resistant, I cast Imperil on them before finishing the job. I usually clear low difficulty arenas that way. Maybe I could use an elementalist staff to skip Imperil entirely?

i have an elementalist taking dust in my inventory. you are a cold user, right?

i have an elementalist taking dust in my inventory. you are a cold user, right?

Yep, but I didn't really like the staff you showed me.

Dont rly like last one spirit shield update. I got bigger spirit consumption and mostly its not big damage (i mean 15k oneshot). Usually its low threshold around 200-1000k damage (3-15 sp cost) and quite often. I d use spirit theft, but atm my forb proficiency is too low. So maybe i ll downgrade it and comeback with 310+ lvl.

I do think we should break this thread into a few thread, e.g.:

1. melee section (melee go there)
2. mage section (mage go there)
3. IW/Arena/GF section (fast/long run discussion)
4. Forging/trainning/purchasing strategy (credit related stuff)

It is so hard to dig out a suitable article(?) from few day ago in this thread.

If possible, make a gameplay discussion sub-forum for them.

A melee-only thread is unnecessary. 1H'n'shield works, so no need for help there.

A mage-only thread is unnecessary. Maging works, so no need for help there.

A long-run thread is unnecessary. Level up enough and you'll be able to last longer, so no need for help there.

A credit related thread is unnecessary. There's no credits to be earned in HV, so no amount of advice will help you there.

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Yep, but I didn't really like the staff you showed me.

oh, so i already showed you. sorry, but i'm a bit easy-mind every now and then (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

oh, so i already showed you. sorry, but i'm a bit easy-mind every now and then (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

It's okay, I'm not sure whether I said that your staff wasn't at my taste before or not.

Thanks everyone that answered me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I do think we should break this thread into a few thread, e.g.:

1. melee section (melee go there)
2. mage section (mage go there)
3. IW/Arena/GF section (fast/long run discussion)
4. Forging/trainning/purchasing strategy (credit related stuff)

It is so hard to dig out a suitable article(?) from few day ago in this thread.

If possible, make a gameplay discussion sub-forum for them.

Handsdown +1 but some might think they redundant.

Mind asking what training should i go for. I am lost in what to train up. Pack rat? Or Adept learner? or ability boost? Or drop rate boost?

Mind asking what training should i go for. I am lost in what to train up. Pack rat? Or Adept learner? or ability boost? Or drop rate boost?

I think Pack rat is more important, if you are going to playing in PF arena @ your level.

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Mind asking what training should i go for. I am lost in what to train up. Pack rat? Or Adept learner? or ability boost? Or drop rate boost?

Pack Rat >> Luck of the draw >>> Other trainings

I think Pack rat is more important, if you are going to playing in PF arena @ your level.

Sadly , i can barely do nightmare arena atm, maybe you can check the gears that i am running? I might be doing something wrong when atempting arena

Mind asking what training should i go for. I am lost in what to train up. Pack rat? Or Adept learner? or ability boost? Or drop rate boost?

If your goal is to maximize your credit earnings, then you should be training Scavenger, Luck of the Draw, or Archaeologist.

If your goal is to maximize your credit earnings, then you should be training Scavenger, Luck of the Draw, or Archaeologist.

but all of them have a very long payout/breakeven period. Max pack rat allows you to last longer @higher difficulty = more credits/drops. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Regarding upgrades via item world, I'm wondering if there are certain ones generally worth significantly more or less than others. For instance I found this in the bazaar

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=4e1f35f990

and thought it looked decent enough to be worth leveling up (does anyone know a general price range an upgrade would cost?), but I'm not sure if I should aim for a certain potency or to try to avoid another. I'm leaning towards avoiding Overpower - Counter-Parry if possible because parries seem too unusual to be worth worrying about at my current level, but I don't know if that'll change once I level up a bit more. Will it?

Then for armor... Juggernaut for bonus HP seems like an obvious necessity for everything, from my beginner's eyes, at least until Cure healing is never wasted. Same thing for bonus MP and mana pots. Is this an accurate assessment or not? Also, are there certain dangerous elemental damage types that are more common than others? (eg. experienced players valuing Coldproof over Elecproof or something like that) (I'm using light/shade armor if that makes a difference)

Thanks guys.

I just got a second Spitfire Figurine. Are these better to sell, trade in at the shrine, or is there something else I can do with it?

Regarding upgrades via item world, I'm wondering if there are certain ones generally worth significantly more or less than others. For instance I found this in the bazaar

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=4e1f35f990

and thought it looked decent enough to be worth leveling up (does anyone know a general price range an upgrade would cost?), but I'm not sure if I should aim for a certain potency or to try to avoid another. I'm leaning towards avoiding Overpower - Counter-Parry if possible because parries seem too unusual to be worth worrying about at my current level, but I don't know if that'll change once I level up a bit more. Will it?

if you think you could use it, do it. fatality is a jolly stat for almost all weapons, and 2H works good with overpower afaik (indeed mobs will parry more, otherwise where would complications be? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) ) but don't get too mad over it. if i was in your shoes i'd simply go for the supplemental strike as soon as possible, without worrying to reforge

Then for armor... Juggernaut for bonus HP seems like an obvious necessity for everything, from my beginner's eyes, at least until Cure healing is never wasted. Same thing for bonus MP and mana pots. Is this an accurate assessment or not? Also, are there certain dangerous elemental damage types that are more common than others? (eg. experienced players valuing Coldproof over Elecproof or something like that) (I'm using light/shade armor if that makes a difference)

juggernaut is indeed regarded as the best stat atm. but personally i always find some spared MP points after i cast a potion, so some levels of capacitor wouldn't be too bad either - though some higherup says vigorous vitality or effluent ether perks work better and last forever. as for elemental as for mitigations, holyproof against celestials, fireproof against dragonkins and maybe a backup piece with darkproof against SGs/FSM

I just got a second Spitfire Figurine. Are these better to sell, trade in at the shrine, or is there something else I can do with it?

don't shrine them. if you don't find anything looking for them atm (there was one person who bought @ 40k last time i saw it) keep it for better moments

Ok some noob question from me to you guys ^^

1st

I am planning to IW my slaughter rapier and was wondering which Potencies to get. Butcher/Fatality/Overpower/Swift Strike ??? Also in which difficultly I should clear it.

2nd

I am not joking but I forgot which arena lvl Invisible Pink Unicorn appear. Or is it just appear in ROB arena only ?

3rd

Among these two which one is better -

1) http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=fc74d904c5

or

2) http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=ba010bf348

Thanks (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

This post has been edited by xcaliber9999: Dec 11 2014, 15:23

Sadly , i can barely do nightmare arena atm, maybe you can check the gears that i am running? I might be doing something wrong when atempting arena

Hey there, how are you doing? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

You might want to use exclusively gear with all PABs, for a start. I recommend a Hallowed (best), Ethereal (2nd best) or Demonic (3rd best) rapier of slaughter (STR/DEX), a Force Shield with EMax+ block (STR/DEX/END) and some power armor (STR/DEX/END) (something like 3 slaughter, 1 balance and 1 protection/warding for example).
How high is your 1H prof? Your defense greatly increases at 100+ 1H prof (and 200+) thanks to the additionnal counters, and you will be able to keep Spirit Stance almost indefinitely.
Do you use Spirit Shield or Spark of Life? Use at least one of the two. Also, always have Haste and Protection on, and if possible Regen and Heartseeker (ideally, casted while channeling or in Spirit Stance).
You may want to use Silence on a few monsters that you will kill last (or if you don't have it, Weaken), it will reduce the incoming damage.
How high is your Pack Rat training? Max it ASAP, it helps a lot for long battles.

Regarding upgrades via item world, I'm wondering if there are certain ones generally worth significantly more or less than others. For instance I found this in the bazaar

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=4e1f35f990

and thought it looked decent enough to be worth leveling up (does anyone know a general price range an upgrade would cost?), but I'm not sure if I should aim for a certain potency or to try to avoid another. I'm leaning towards avoiding Overpower - Counter-Parry if possible because parries seem too unusual to be worth worrying about at my current level, but I don't know if that'll change once I level up a bit more. Will it?

Then for armor... Juggernaut for bonus HP seems like an obvious necessity for everything, from my beginner's eyes, at least until Cure healing is never wasted. Same thing for bonus MP and mana pots. Is this an accurate assessment or not? Also, are there certain dangerous elemental damage types that are more common than others? (eg. experienced players valuing Coldproof over Elecproof or something like that) (I'm using light/shade armor if that makes a difference)

Thanks guys.

Estocs don't have ways around monster parry (while maces can stun). This is especially bad at high level PFUDOR because of the additionnal monster parry of the difficulty, and the high PL and Chaos Level of monsters. But at your level, don't worry about that, just get whatever potency you can find. Or don't do IW at all (or just the first few levels) and focus on clearing arenas, that works too. Or use an ethereal mace instead because of the highest survivability that stun gives.

Juggernaut (+HP) is the best, hands down. Capacitor (+MP) is optionnal, you can always spend your MPs on buffs before a mana pot finishes refilling your bar. Then there is Holy and Dark mitigations, which aren't bad since attacks of those types are usually very damaging. Fire mitigation is useful for dealing against dragons (including the dragons from the very last arenas). Cold mit is useful against Ryouko Asakura. Elec and Wind are used by a few magic users like elementals, sprites, humanoids, etc., but they are less useful overall.

I just got a second Spitfire Figurine. Are these better to sell, trade in at the shrine, or is there something else I can do with it?

Sell them to other players. Current price is about 50~55k.