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post Dec 8 2014, 05:30
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QUOTE(Twilight Sparkle1998 @ Dec 8 2014, 11:07) *

125k per exquisite or per exp? Cause if it's per exp, wowie. I actually have two exq that i want to be IWed


Per exq ofc (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Dec 8 2014, 12:57
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Is sp theft good ability? Looks quite solid in long runs. I mean i can restore mp with focus and sp with that ability, so in theory its endless farm in a bit slower way.
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post Dec 8 2014, 13:13
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Dec 8 2014, 02:57) *

Is sp theft good ability? Looks quite solid in long runs. I mean i can restore mp with focus and sp with that ability, so in theory its endless farm in a bit slower way.


It's great when you've run out of spirit pots. Though you're right it does slow you down quite a bit.
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post Dec 8 2014, 15:21
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A seemingly silly question for staffs experts:

I started IWing this staff, got penetrator 4 and then at the fifth level annihilator. Should I continue like that hoping for penetrator 5 or reforge it to get economizer?

thanks in advance.

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post Dec 8 2014, 15:45
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QUOTE(boulay @ Dec 8 2014, 21:21) *

A seemingly silly question for staffs experts:

I started IWing this staff, got penetrator 4 and then at the fifth level anihilator. Should I continue like that hoping for penetrator 5 or reforge it to get economizer?

thanks in advance.

QUOTE(Cats Lover @ Nov 17 2014, 13:20) *

5 Economizer is a must for almost mages in general.


And some extra info for you (quoted from a PM from wannaf):
5mc 4cr(best for gf) or 5mc 4am(best for arena)
so if your aim is just 5mc,2mc start is important.when you get 3mc on lv3 .it is worthy to reach lv9 ,then 5mc or reforge.
if your aim is 5mc with 3+cr or am,you can start with
2mc or
2cr/am
or 1mc+1cr/am
i think they are all the same.


mc = mana conservation (economizer)
cr = counter resist (penetrator)
am = archmage

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post Dec 8 2014, 16:21
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QUOTE(Colman @ Dec 7 2014, 23:16) *

3 Power slaughter + 1 power balance + 1 leg plat of protection should be ok.

Thanks. I'll try out this combo. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

QUOTE(kumosu @ Dec 7 2014, 23:27) *

Hmm, what's your Mana/Spirit pots ratio? You didn't use any drain/thief right?

Mana:Spirit - 11:4
And I don't use Drain/Theft except the SG Arenas. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

QUOTE(TygerTyger @ Dec 7 2014, 23:45) *

Just what I suspected. Sorry Tyger, but I wanted to test a "Forged" set, not a "IW-Maxed" one. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

QUOTE(Scremaz @ Dec 8 2014, 00:13) *

yup. and no problem to complete it at PF. but every now and then i get bored and only want to go for trophies/tokens wasting the minimum amount of time (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Then why aren't you becoming a mage? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

QUOTE(malkatmp @ Dec 8 2014, 08:34) *

yes, or whatever set that you've did that hellfest. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

This post of yours is the 60,000th post of this thread. And all you wrote was this? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

With a full Warding (4x Power + 1x Shielding Plate) set, this was my stat:
~4.5k ADB
~67% PMI
~72% MMI
~33% Block
~36% Parry

However, I found that by mixing 1 more plate, I was getting a far better performance.

With 4x Warding (3x Power + 1x Shielding Plate) + 1x Plate of Protection, this is currently my best stat:
~4.2k ADB
~71% PMI
~72% MMI
~33% Block
~37% Parry

QUOTE(boulay @ Dec 8 2014, 18:51) *

A seemingly silly question for staffs experts:

I started IWing this staff, got penetrator 4 and then at the fifth level anihilator. Should I continue like that hoping for penetrator 5 or reforge it to get economizer?

thanks in advance.

For Holy, Economizer is the 1st priority, even more than Penetrator.
Since your Staff is not a Destruction one, you'll also have to avoid Archmage.
As the second potency, Spellweaver and Penetrator are equally good. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

BTW, I have a question: Which Staff has more Magic Score? Matching EDB Prefix-Suffix? or Destruction?

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post Dec 8 2014, 16:45
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QUOTE(djackallstar @ Dec 8 2014, 14:45) *

And some extra info for you (quoted from a PM from wannaf):
5mc 4cr(best for gf) or 5mc 4am(best for arena)
so if your aim is just 5mc,2mc start is important.when you get 3mc on lv3 .it is worthy to reach lv9 ,then 5mc or reforge.
if your aim is 5mc with 3+cr or am,you can start with
2mc or
2cr/am
or 1mc+1cr/am
i think they are all the same.


mc = mana conservation (economizer)
cr = counter resist (penetrator)
am = archmage



QUOTE(tetron @ Dec 8 2014, 15:21) *

For Holy, Economizer is the 1st priority, even more than Penetrator.
Since your Staff is not a Destruction one, you'll also have to avoid Archmage.
As the second potency, Spellweaver and Penetrator are equally good. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

BTW, I have a question: Which Staff has more Magic Score? Matching EDB Prefix-Suffix? or Destruction?

Thought so, a bit of a shame since getting 4 levels in one go isn't that easy either. Thanks to both.
By the way, is annhilator completely useless (unless you have a lot of CR)?

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post Dec 8 2014, 17:36
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QUOTE(boulay @ Dec 8 2014, 21:21) *

A seemingly silly question for staffs experts:

I started IWing this staff, got penetrator 4 and then at the fifth level anihilator. Should I continue like that hoping for penetrator 5 or reforge it to get economizer?

thanks in advance.

For Holy, I think eco5 is a must.
For elemental, I think pen5 is better.
So.......
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post Dec 8 2014, 17:52
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QUOTE(boulay @ Dec 8 2014, 20:15) *

By the way, is anihilator completely useless (unless you have a lot of CR)?

Think about it:

For a Melee, Shadowdancer-Shade & Power-Balance gives Crit Chance, while Savage increases the Crit output.

For a Mage, there is only Mystic, which increases the Spell Crit output. Currently there is no Cloth Armor which gives Spell Crit Chance.

So Annihilator's true potencial cannot be unlocked unless you're extremely lucky (Doing Crits often) or have shitforged your PABs (To increase the Crit Chance gain from them). (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Annihilator can be used if you use a Focus Staff, but then again, Focus Staffs are useless to begin with. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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post Dec 8 2014, 18:13
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QUOTE(tetron @ Dec 8 2014, 16:52) *

Think about it:

For a Melee, Shadowdancer-Shade & Power-Balance gives Crit Chance, while Savage increases the Crit output.

For a Mage, there is only Mystic, which increases the Spell Crit output. Currently there is no Cloth Armor which gives Spell Crit Chance.

So Annihilator's true potencial cannot be unlocked unless you're extremely lucky (Doing Crits often) or have shitforged your PABs (To increase the Crit Chance gain from them). (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Annihilator can be used if you use a Focus Staff, but then again, Focus Staffs are useless to begin with. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

I was actually thinking about it with a one hander perpective. Since 1H has counter resist with overwhelming strike, you tend to prefer fatality for your weapon. The thing I want to know is if Annihilator + Penetrator on a staff can be a viable combination (seemingly for elemental maging as Colman said).

and I just looked it: my mage set gives 31.9% crit which is about the same as my 1H set...

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post Dec 8 2014, 18:54
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QUOTE(boulay @ Dec 9 2014, 00:13) *

I was actually thinking about it with a one hander perpective. Since 1H has counter resist with overwhelming strike, you tend to prefer fatality for your weapon. The thing I want to know is if Annihilator + Penetrator on a staff can be a viable combination (seemingly for elemental maging as Colman said).

and I just looked it: my mage set gives 31.9% crit which is about the same as my 1H set...

Annihilator is not that bad.
Archmage is the worst.

You can calculate the expected damage increased by each level of them.

Before mitigation applied:
  • For one level of Annihilator, it gives 2% of your total damage * magic crit chance.
  • For one level of Archmage , it gives 2% of your weapon damage * (1+ magic crit chance * magic crit damage bonus) .
p.s.: magic crit damage bonus = 0.5 without any Annihilator and prefix bonus.
p.s.2: the peak damage occur at a mix of both. However, it mean you will lost eco5 and pen5 for sure.

Another consideration for Annihilator vs Archmage is stable damage vs peak damage. With Annihilator, the chance of one-shot some mobs at low level game is much higher, while Archmage cannot provide that.

FYI, I have 46.1% magic crit chance.

tetron:
Not sure what happen at your level, Archmage never beat Annihilator at my level. BTW, what's your crit chance?

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post Dec 8 2014, 19:02
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QUOTE(boulay @ Dec 8 2014, 21:43) *

I was actually thinking about it with a one hander perpective. Since 1H has counter resist with overwhelming strike, you tend to prefer fatality for your weapon. The thing I want to know is if Annihilator + Penetrator on a staff can be a viable combination (seemingly for elemental maging as Colman said).

and I just looked it: my mage set gives 31.9% crit which is about the same as my 1H set...

Annihilator + Penetrator? Nope. Economizer Lv.5 is a MUST. Or lt least Lv.4. More specifically because it's Holy.

QUOTE(Colman @ Dec 8 2014, 22:24) *

Annihilator is not that bad.
Archmage is the worst.

Nope. Archmage is very good in a Destruction Staff, because of its ability to stack with Forging. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

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post Dec 8 2014, 23:20
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Dec 8 2014, 11:57) *

Is sp theft good ability? Looks quite solid in long runs. I mean i can restore mp with focus and sp with that ability, so in theory its endless farm in a bit slower way.

if you're a melee, yes. you have to have upper-tier forbidden spells (let's say disintegrate + ripened soul lv2 or ragnarok + ripened soul lv1 as the *bare* minimum), but when you understand how to make a good use of it, you can completely forget about SP potions, making your run actually longer - albeit a bit shorter, yep. not sure about mages

QUOTE(tetron @ Dec 8 2014, 15:21) *

Then why aren't you becoming a mage? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

too lazy. too poor. too much knowledge needed. not safe. too complicated - or if you prefer not facerolling enough. pick one or more than one (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Dec 9 2014, 05:23
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Is HV down or it's just me?

I was in the middle of an Arena, and I can't access HV since ~1 hour ago. I get the "Server not found. Firefox can't find the server at www.hentaiverse.org". I tried also with Google Chrome with the same result.
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post Dec 9 2014, 05:33
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QUOTE(gynew @ Dec 9 2014, 11:23) *

Is HV down or it's just me?

I was in the middle of an Arena, and I can't access HV since ~1 hour ago. I get the "Server not found. Firefox can't find the server at www.hentaiverse.org". I tried also with Google Chrome with the same result.

[www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com] http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/htt...entaiverse.org/
[www.websitedown.info] http://www.websitedown.info/hentaiverse.org
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post Dec 9 2014, 06:10
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So, It's only me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Anyone know why did this happen? and more importantly how can I solve it?

I already tried erasing all cookies, restarting my pc, using different browsers (Firefox, Chrome & Safari) and also using a a diiferent PC, but nothing worked.

Thanks.
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post Dec 9 2014, 06:19
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QUOTE(gynew @ Dec 9 2014, 12:10) *

So, It's only me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Anyone know why did this happen? and more importantly how can I solve it?

I already tried erasing all cookies, restarting my pc, using different browsers (Firefox, Chrome & Safari) and also using a a diiferent PC, but nothing worked.

Thanks.

How about gallery?
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post Dec 9 2014, 06:38
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QUOTE(Colman @ Dec 8 2014, 22:19) *

How about gallery?


Yes, I'm able to access the galleries, and everything in there like my home, bounties, hath exchange, etc.

Now that I was testing I noticed I can't access the eh-wiki neither. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

Please help (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

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post Dec 9 2014, 07:01
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Okay, so these are my current stats and my equipped items. Am I doing this right, or have I screwed up somewhere?
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post Dec 9 2014, 07:28
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QUOTE(gynew @ Dec 9 2014, 12:38) *

Yes, I'm able to access the galleries, and everything in there like my home, bounties, hath exchange, etc.

Now that I was testing I noticed I can't access the eh-wiki neither. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

Please help (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

At first, I guessed your ISP/router block the e-h domain. However, you can access the gallery. I dunno what happened.

Try clear all cache and setting. Some cache and setting can be cross-browser.
Or try another computer. And try to use IE to login once.
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