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Questions for mages

1. Do you notice any real difference in having points in Elemental ratings?

2. Do you notice any real difference in damage based on elemental prof?

Questions for mages

1. Do you notice any real difference in having points in Elemental ratings?

2. Do you notice any real difference in damage based on elemental prof?

1. Yes, offensively. Defensively, not terribly much.
2. No, but keep in mind that it's gradual. If I suddenly went from zero to 40 I might notice it.

Hey panel, here's a question.

I've been keeping STR DEX and AGI equal, about 8 below my level (the rest are at my level). I did a lot of beating weak monsters over the head to save mana and occasionally trigger ET, so STR was worthwhile.
Now that spells are cheaper and the regular walloping of monsters won't randomly build up my mana, is it worth leveling STR any more? It affects my attack damage, not my attack chance, so it wouldn't affect trying to deliberately trigger ET.

You could probably let it drop, but I doubt its a good idea to drop it completely. Maybe keep it at a certain fraction of your level or highest stat. You never know when you'll need that extra muscle.

This post has been edited by cmal: Nov 2 2009, 02:54

Hey panel, here's a question.

I've been keeping STR DEX and AGI equal, about 8 below my level (the rest are at my level). I did a lot of beating weak monsters over the head to save mana and occasionally trigger ET, so STR was worthwhile.
Now that spells are cheaper and the regular walloping of monsters won't randomly build up my mana, is it worth leveling STR any more? It affects my attack damage, not my attack chance, so it wouldn't affect trying to deliberately trigger ET.

Ya you might as well let it drop, unless you think your gonna change play styles anytime soon. I'd probably put most of the extra points into END since you are "losing" so stam by not having the points in STR.

So....after taking you guys' advice, my new Stats are currently like so:




Now, my question is this:

Still looking at this from a Heavy Tank standpoint, have any of you Grandmasters ever raised one of the Primary Stats well above the others and kept it there?? If so, which one(s) did you raise above the others -assuming that doing so worked out well for you?



(BTW, on a side note, I don't feel as if I need to put that much into WIS or INT anymore.....ever.....unless my natural increase in MP progression as I level up isn't enough to keep up with future Supportive/Depreciative/Curative Spells that I may use as a Tank. Am I right or wrong??)

So....after taking you guys' advice, my new Stats are currently like so:


Now, my question is this:

Still looking at this from a Heavy Tank standpoint, have any of you Grandmasters ever raised one of the Primary Stats well above the others and kept it there?? If so, which one(s) did you raise above the others -assuming that doing so worked out well for you?
(BTW, on a side note, I don't feel as if I need to put that much into WIS or INT anymore.....ever.....unless my natural increase in MP progression as I level up isn't enough to keep up with future Supportive/Depreciative/Curative Spells that I may use as a Tank. Am I right or wrong??)

Give STR and END (particularly END) the most attention (I kill things on Normal in 2-3 hits on average with Lv+12 STR/END and 170% OC), but keep those first four at least your level.

As for your second question: I have 500 MP and I run out about 3/4 of the way through Killzone on Normal. So I usually use 2 each of Average Mana Draughts and Potions, sometimes even a Greater Draught if I didn't catch any good Second Winds and/or some mobs got some lucky shots in.

Ok my stats so far it goes good

But I still wonder it is that agi really that needed ?
If so will be enough lvl - 5 ?

Cause I am getting double hits only when I am casting AoE spells and only from few selected monsters [I even got double casts on slower ones]
And maybe I am just lucky on enemy rolling low agi (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Thanks in advance

agi gives evade as well when your in cloth you want to dodge attacks don't drop it off, and how is being able to double attack with aoe bad...

I'm a little curious why you put so many ability points into offensive spells but have equipment that not only cuts their damage 25% but also gives them a chance to fail outright.

Get weaken. Especially for the price, it really helps when a powerful monster bears down on you. Especially because your STR and DEX are low, so you're going to take a lot of damage from physical attacks.

If you're planning to use Ether Theft with that staff, you may want to consider upping your DEX to improve your chance of hitting anything.

So Far I have no problem to land hit with staff where I need it [grindfest / itemworld] [28% / 3 Ether theft staff] but I am considering to give it a bumb [to lvl -10 or so]

I am wearing a bit of armor but I consider it good tradeoff
[I hit like 350 - 700 Dmg to elemental weakness monster which is good enough considering that most monsters have around 1K HP for now]
Yes there is chance to fail outright thats why I am getting so high Wis/Int to reduce it a bit

I did not found Weaken useful yet [Maybe for that lvl 50 Arena]
But yes I know it will help me later on and then I will put it into my loadout

I've only recently begun seriously playing this, so I have a question:

Is it worth my while to do both hand-to-hand combat and magics?

Elemental magic? Other kinds?

The thing is, those magic points are just sitting there, I'm thinking that I want to put them to good use, but I'm more weapon-oriented.

I've only recently begun seriously playing this, so I have a question:

Is it worth my while to do both hand-to-hand combat and magics?

Elemental magic? Other kinds?

The thing is, those magic points are just sitting there, I'm thinking that I want to put them to good use, but I'm more weapon-oriented.

If you're going to be a basic warrior class, then you can put AP into Deprecating/Support/Cure spells, which will eat up those MP pretty easy as you level higher. If you go tank, you'll be spending most of you magic casting Cures and Shields, with the occasional Absorb, Spark of Life, or Silence/Weaken/Bewilder. If you go like marcho and do spellsword, you'll love Poison and Soul Reaper/Harvest to go with your other deprecating spells. You really don't have use for elemental magic unless you're going to be exploiting elemental weaknesses a lot and are wearing low Interference armor.

If you're going to be a basic warrior class, then you can put AP into Deprecating/Support/Cure spells, which will eat up those MP pretty easy as you level higher. If you go tank, you'll be spending most of you magic casting Cures and Shields, with the occasional Absorb, Spark of Life, or Silence/Weaken/Bewilder. If you go like marcho and do spellsword, you'll love Poison and Soul Reaper/Harvest to go with your other deprecating spells. You really don't have use for elemental magic unless you're going to be exploiting elemental weaknesses a lot and are wearing low Interference armor.

Allright, I'm level 14 now, I'll see what happens in the future.

I am wearing a bit of armor but I consider it good tradeoff
[I hit like 350 - 700 Dmg to elemental weakness monster which is good enough considering that most monsters have around 1K HP for now]

Wait a minute...700? Your magic rating is 33 below mine, your elemental ratings are lower, your equipment bonus to magic damage is lower, you have a 25% interference, and you're using a tier 1 elemental spell...and you're doing more damage than I am?
Flare (with meteor maxed) tops out at about 500 against fire-weak monsters for me (non-critical hit). My interference is zero. How does that make sense?

edit: Maybe the monsters' resistance scaling up? Though with a level difference of 17, I wouldn't think it would scale so disproportionally.

This post has been edited by Panuru: Nov 5 2009, 02:17

Wait a minute...700? Your magic rating is 33 below mine, your elemental ratings are lower, your equipment bonus to magic damage is lower, you have a 25% interference, and you're using a tier 1 elemental spell...and you're doing more damage than I am?
Flare (with meteor maxed) tops out at about 500 against fire-weak monsters for me (non-critical hit). My interference is zero. How does that make sense?

edit: Maybe the monsters' resistance scaling up? Though with a level difference of 17, I wouldn't think it would scale so disproportionally.

Maybe he purchased the "Tall Tales" Perk. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Hello guys
here is my exact gear
[hv.e-hentai.org] Superior mithril scythe of the ox
[hv.e-hentai.org] Flimsy titanium chainmail coif of the Thunder-child
[hv.e-hentai.org] Average iron plate cuirass of the Spirit-ward
[hv.e-hentai.org] Fine steel plate gauntlets of the fire-eater
[hv.e-hentai.org] Fine sapphire chainmail chausses of warding
[hv.e-hentai.org] Average sapphire chainmail boots of warding
whats wrong with my char i cant really go for that long on normal
i just want a hack and slash char thats lasts for a while

Maybe he purchased the "Tall Tales" Perk. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Considering that Level-54 monsters only start topping 1k HP on Hard and up, I'm beginning to suspect it.

I must punt on Killa's question, since I don't know jack about melee types.

Hello guys
here is my exact gear
[hv.e-hentai.org] Superior mithril scythe of the ox
[hv.e-hentai.org] Flimsy titanium chainmail coif of the Thunder-child
[hv.e-hentai.org] Average iron plate cuirass of the Spirit-ward
[hv.e-hentai.org] Fine steel plate gauntlets of the fire-eater
[hv.e-hentai.org] Fine sapphire chainmail chausses of warding
[hv.e-hentai.org] Average sapphire chainmail boots of warding
whats wrong with my char i cant really go for that long on normal
i just want a hack and slash char thats lasts for a while

A]] You need, IMO, a lot more EXP dumped into your END stat.

B]] You need better stuff (i.e., Sapphire/Ruby/Diamond/Prism) on your Hands, Body, and Head.

C]] In my (not-so) humble observation, Scythes suck as a Weapon to use in long-term combat; all the sassy attributes they have are overshadowed by their generally crappy Hit Rate. Monsters get more hits in = you dying that much quicker.

Survival in the Arenas and (IW) Dungeons has as much to do with killing the enemy as quickly as possible as it has to do with good armor.

Hello guys
here is my exact gear
[hv.e-hentai.org] Superior mithril scythe of the ox
[hv.e-hentai.org] Flimsy titanium chainmail coif of the Thunder-child
[hv.e-hentai.org] Average iron plate cuirass of the Spirit-ward
[hv.e-hentai.org] Fine steel plate gauntlets of the fire-eater
[hv.e-hentai.org] Fine sapphire chainmail chausses of warding
[hv.e-hentai.org] Average sapphire chainmail boots of warding
whats wrong with my char i cant really go for that long on normal
i just want a hack and slash char thats lasts for a while

More STR and END. You can start dropping INT in favor of more WIS for Cures and Shields. Try switching in more Plate and/or upgrading some gear, particularly that cuirass (the gauntlets are okay for now). Body armor is where you tend to get the most out of defense and stat bonuses. If you want to keep using mail, then you'll need more AGI to increase your evade and Action Speed. That scythe is fairly beastly, but if you're going to keep using it, you're going to need to pump more points into DEX to offset the lack of an accuracy bonus on it. Either that, or switch to a longsword with an accuracy bonus or go 1HS. You'll want to start putting spare points into SP Tanks to get a hold of the OC Boosts, since it does make a small difference as you start getting it higher, but prioritize your HP/MP tanks and support abilities first.

This post has been edited by cmal: Nov 5 2009, 06:42

You'll want to start putting spare points into SP Tanks to get a hold of the OC Boosts, since it does make a small difference as you start getting it higher, but prioritize your HP/MP tanks and support abilities first.

what does oc do becides my ulti

This post has been edited by killa: Nov 5 2009, 08:33