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post Dec 3 2014, 18:34
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QUOTE(tetron @ Dec 3 2014, 20:49) *

Maybe for the PMI gain through END stat?

PMI gain through Rapier-tier END PAB is soo miniscule. Better get it through the armor. And anyway END is not that important for 300+ players (I'm talking about melee), no? When I changed my armor, half of new (power slaughter) pieces were without END. And I'm still very okay. Much better than before, in fact.

Talking about PABs, STR/DEX is more important - and still no STR and good ADB is better than meh STR PAB and meh ADB.

This is my opinion, of course I might be wrong.

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I seem to have quite an attachment to 1H weapons with 4 PAB. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Now that is understandable (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
My old club was 4PAB, and I bought it exactly for being 4PAB.

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post Dec 3 2014, 18:39
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QUOTE(kserox @ Dec 4 2014, 00:34) *

PMI gain through Rapier-tier END PAB is soo miniscule. Better get it through the armor. And anyway END is not that important for 300+ players (I'm talking about melee), no? When I changed my armor, half of new (power slaughter) pieces were without END. And I'm still very okay. Much better than before, in fact.

Talking about PABs, STR/DEX is more important - and still no STR and good ADB is better than meh STR PAB and meh ADB.

This is my opinion, of course I might be wrong.

For arena, I agree with you as a shield is sufficient to make you no need to heal at all.

For GF, I dun think so. It is because STR/DEX have poor point-to-damage ratio at higher level but END is contribute to both PMI(could be ignore after a certain point) and HP (linearly grow) at a better rate.
I do think END is more important if someone intent to play GF.

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post Dec 3 2014, 18:44
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QUOTE(Colman @ Dec 3 2014, 21:39) *

For arena, I agree with you as a shield is sufficient to make you no need to heal at all.

For GF, I dun think so. It is because STR/DEX have poor point-to-damage ratio at higher level but END is contribute to both PMI(could be ignore after a certain point) and HP (linearly grow) at a better rate.
I do think END is more important if someone intent to play GF.

Huh... Are we talking about BT/IWBTH or PFUDOR fest?

Added: And anyway we prioritize HP, right? PAB-END-PMI is still not quite important.

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post Dec 3 2014, 19:19
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Don't forget about 1-2 extra Spirit Point from 4PAB. I know it's very small, but all style rely a lot in Spirit shield and 1H is desperate need SP for they Stance, so it's still something. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Dec 3 2014, 19:22
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QUOTE(Colman @ Dec 3 2014, 22:09) *

For arena, I agree with you as a shield is sufficient to make you no need to heal at all.

For GF, I dun think so. It is because STR/DEX have poor point-to-damage ratio at higher level but END is contribute to both PMI(could be ignore after a certain point) and HP (linearly grow) at a better rate.
I do think END is more important if someone intent to play GF.

Yep.

QUOTE(kserox @ Dec 3 2014, 22:14) *

Huh... Are we talking about BT/IWBTH or PFUDOR fest?

Yep.

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Added: And anyway we prioritize HP, right? PAB-END-PMI is still not quite important.

Nope.
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post Dec 3 2014, 20:12
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QUOTE(tetron @ Dec 3 2014, 22:22) *

Yep.

So which one?
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post Dec 3 2014, 20:37
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QUOTE(kserox @ Dec 3 2014, 23:42) *

So which one?

HP is just as important as PMI. For IWBTH/PFUDOR GF and PFUDOR TT&T, every point counts. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Arena however, as Colman said, does not require much defense (Except maybe DwD).
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post Dec 3 2014, 23:06
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btw, what's a realistic price for gold stars nowadays?


Honestly, my countries dollar is still going down, and doesn't look like it's going to stop declining... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Dec 3 2014, 23:15
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oh, another question: wiki says that the magical-based skill of a monster is boosted by its INT: is it useful to raise its WIS as well? and for physical attacks (which are boosted by DEX) is it useful to raise STR?
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post Dec 3 2014, 23:25
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Dec 3 2014, 22:15) *

oh, another question: wiki says that the magical-based skill of a monster is boosted by its INT: is it useful to raise its WIS as well? and for physical attacks (which are boosted by DEX) is it useful to raise STR?

WIS raises the magic crit rate, and STR is still useful for normal attacks.
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post Dec 3 2014, 23:45
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QUOTE(Dan31 @ Dec 3 2014, 22:25) *

WIS raises the magic crit rate, and STR is still useful for normal attacks.

then they work less or more like player's stats...
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post Dec 3 2014, 23:50
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Dec 3 2014, 22:45) *

then they work less or more like player's stats...

See the detail here: http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Monster_Stats
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post Dec 3 2014, 23:52
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QUOTE(Dan31 @ Dec 3 2014, 22:50) *

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) that's news to me, many thanks

[edit]: oh, also i suppose that the more the MP/SP used the strongest the attack, so it's actually good for the monster to have a big MP/SP pool

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post Dec 4 2014, 01:35
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Dec 3 2014, 22:52) *

[edit]: oh, also i suppose that the more the MP/SP used the strongest the attack, so it's actually good for the monster to have a big MP/SP pool

If I have to take a wild guess, I would say MP/SP values only matter for Drain.
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post Dec 4 2014, 03:42
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QUOTE(tetron @ Dec 3 2014, 23:49) *
Advertise on newspapers. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
That's just plain overkill just to find a friend... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

QUOTE(Scremaz @ Dec 4 2014, 00:13) *
is she nice? busty? i may help you in this case (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
Maybe she is now, but all I had is her nickname and an image of her childhood face... deep inside somewhere inside my brain.
She's just a plain-ol innocent loli back when I was little, so I haven't the slightest clue about her cup size.

QUOTE(Scremaz @ Dec 4 2014, 00:13) *
btw, what's a realistic price for gold stars nowadays?
Around 21 Megacredits

QUOTE(TygerTyger @ Dec 4 2014, 05:06) *
Honestly, my countries dollar is still going down, and doesn't look like it's going to stop declining... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
Singapore Dollar? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
Seriously though, just a friendly reminder that USA isn't the only country that calls their currency as [en.wikipedia.org] dollars.

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post Dec 4 2014, 05:01
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When doing normal difficulty arenas if you don't use haste, which make the enemies attack you more often, will you get more armor skillups?

Edit: basically asking if armor has a chance to skillup for each attack you take/avoid or is it a fixed chance per round?

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post Dec 4 2014, 06:17
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QUOTE(lolwutusay @ Dec 4 2014, 11:01) *

When doing normal difficulty arenas if you don't use haste, which make the enemies attack you more often, will you get more armor skillups?

Edit: basically asking if armor has a chance to skillup for each attack you take/avoid or is it a fixed chance per round?

Yes, it will. However, armor prof will reach the cap naturally so there is no reason to train them.
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post Dec 4 2014, 09:21
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While we're on the subject of monster stats, anyone know exactly what this does?
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Monsters seem to have near-100% accuracy anyway.
It does not appear to give any sort of anti-evade like the the player accuracy stat.
It does not appear to have any affect to counteract blind.

Is it just there for eating chaos tokens / building chaos level?
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post Dec 4 2014, 12:56
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QUOTE(LostLogia4 @ Dec 4 2014, 12:42) *

Singapore Dollar? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
Seriously though, just a friendly reminder that USA isn't the only country that calls their currency as [en.wikipedia.org] dollars.


'Straya
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post Dec 4 2014, 14:18
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What! So you enjoy Christmas on summer beach? Lucky tyger, im frezzzzzinng here
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