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post Dec 1 2014, 14:50
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Dec 1 2014, 20:40) *

SG marathons are the last 3 arenas, called this way because of the presence of schoolgirls on them (reference here).
it's only natural you can't do PF trio and tree at your level, your PABs, abilities and other stats aren't still scaled enough. back then i wondered it too (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
now it only requires half an hour and without even a strategy (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
my fighting style is 1H + heavy power: rapier, force shield and 4 exq power of slaughter + 1 of warding (mostly for its savage prefix). only rapier and shield are IWed
yup, it's one of the overnerfed styles nowadays. someone can manage to make it working, but they have quite endgame gears...


Well then, guess I am glad I got rid of my niten set. Let me guess, 1H + Heavy OP cause of counter attacks. And they said penetrated armor is awesome. I still don't see why it's better than stuns. From 200 to 300, I am sure it will take a while for me to level up, a whole lot of while. XD
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post Dec 1 2014, 14:55
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QUOTE(Twilight Sparkle1998 @ Dec 1 2014, 13:50) *

Well then, guess I am glad I got rid of my niten set. Let me guess, 1H + Heavy OP cause of counter attacks. And they said penetrated armor is awesome. I still don't see why it's better than stuns. From 200 to 300, I am sure it will take a while for me to level up, a whole lot of while. XD

You already have stun with 1H thanks to counters. PA is awesome at high difficulty, it allows you to quickly dispatch your target. This is especially effective against monsters with high END.
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post Dec 1 2014, 14:58
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QUOTE(Twilight Sparkle1998 @ Dec 1 2014, 13:50) *

Let me guess, 1H + Heavy OP cause of counter attacks. And they said penetrated armor is awesome. I still don't see why it's better than stuns.

you know, counter-attacks actually ARE stuns (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) and penetrated armor IS awesome, it makes you able to inflict way more damage than usual. add spirit stance, a decent heartseeker and maybe void strike and you'll cut celestials as butter, giants and arthropods as chocolate (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

QUOTE(Twilight Sparkle1998 @ Dec 1 2014, 13:50) *

From 200 to 300, I am sure it will take a while for me to level up, a whole lot of while. XD

less than you expect. raise your 1H prof to 200 (for the three counter-stuns-per-turn thing) and enjoy your grinding

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post Dec 1 2014, 15:07
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Dec 1 2014, 20:58) *

you know, counter-attacks actually ARE stuns (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) and penetrated armor IS awesome, it makes you able to inflict way more damage than usual. add spirit stance, a decent heartseeker and maybe void strike and you'll cut celestials as butter, giants and arthropods as chocolate (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
less than you expect. raise your 1H prof to 200 (for the three counter-stuns-per-turn thing) and enjoy your grinding


Guess I should start using 1H in Arenas? Is that what you are saying? Or should I continue using it in RE only? Currently I use staff on Nightmare difficulty for a fast run in the arenas. Should I change to 1H?
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post Dec 1 2014, 15:10
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QUOTE(Twilight Sparkle1998 @ Dec 1 2014, 14:07) *

Guess I should start using 1H in Arenas? Is that what you are saying? Or should I continue using it in RE only? Currently I use staff on Nightmare difficulty for a fast run in the arenas. Should I change to 1H?

Yes, use 1H for arenas.

BTW, do you use scripts?
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post Dec 1 2014, 15:12
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QUOTE(Dan31 @ Dec 1 2014, 21:10) *

Yes, use 1H for arenas.

BTW, do you use scripts?


Yep, spellspam and noimage from holy_demon. What about them?
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post Dec 1 2014, 15:20
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QUOTE(Twilight Sparkle1998 @ Dec 1 2014, 14:12) *

Yep, spellspam and noimage from holy_demon. What about them?

They make the game a bit easier, and faster.

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I recommend Mousemelee (Hover over monsters to attack) or Spellspam (if you are a mage), Show Gems (directly show gems you get without having to open the item menu), NoPopup (skips the "You are victorious" popup), Random Encounter Notification (track the time to the next RE, click on Ready when the cooldown expires), Riddle Limiter (answer more easily to the pony riddles), Equipment Comparison (Q/W/E/R/F/B in an equipment popup for various functions)

...How is noimage btw?
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post Dec 1 2014, 15:26
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QUOTE(Dan31 @ Dec 1 2014, 21:20) *

They make the game a bit easier, and faster.

Copypasta:
I recommend Mousemelee (Hover over monsters to attack) or Spellspam (if you are a mage), Show Gems (directly show gems you get without having to open the item menu), NoPopup (skips the "You are victorious" popup), Random Encounter Notification (track the time to the next RE, click on Ready when the cooldown expires), Riddle Limiter (answer more easily to the pony riddles), Equipment Comparison (Q/W/E/R/F/B in an equipment popup for various functions)

...How is noimage btw?


Okay thanks for the suggestions, will download them now. I already have NoPopup and REN. The noimage scripts is awesome for melees as it takes away all images and kinda hides the battle logs and images of the spells. BTW, I think spellspam is the same as mousemelee. I just put 'Attack' on Hover and it works just like mousemelee.
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post Dec 1 2014, 15:31
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You can also try this AJAX script if you play with Firefox:
Attached File  Reloader.txt ( 14.55k ) Number of downloads: 75


I recommend you to disable all of your other battle scripts if you intend to use it.
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post Dec 1 2014, 15:38
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QUOTE(Dan31 @ Dec 1 2014, 21:31) *

You can also try this AJAX script if you play with Firefox:
Attached File  Reloader.txt ( 14.55k ) Number of downloads: 75


I recommend you to disable all of your other battle scripts if you intend to use it.


That's fine, i don't use Firefox, I use Chrome.
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post Dec 1 2014, 15:43
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Apparently there are monster names you can't use:

"That name is bad and you should feel bad."

lol
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post Dec 1 2014, 16:03
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QUOTE(Dead-ed @ Dec 1 2014, 10:16) *

you tried?

Yep. When I started playing HV, I was using full reinforced leather + 1H. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

And tell you what, those who says "Don't mix Leather with Shade" are wrong. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

QUOTE(Dead-ed @ Dec 1 2014, 10:49) *

i clear pfudor arena although with health pots buff. It's funny to find out that using leather is somewhat better & faster than my negation set (also with health pots).

You use Health Potion in battle?? I've forgotten when I last used it (except for recovery outside of battle). (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

QUOTE(holy_demon @ Dec 1 2014, 13:27) *

that's pretty outdated. Monster's gift is sharply reduced the more monster you have. Pricing of forge mats is reduced everywhere. And last but not least, the people who can afford monsters are already rich to begin with.

Say what???? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)


QUOTE(holy_demon @ Dec 1 2014, 18:00) *

patch 0.80 happens

it was especially designed to nerf monster trainers

And if you're not careful about your monster type composition, you might even gimp yourself

Oh, this. You really freaked me out with your previous post. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post Dec 1 2014, 16:18
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Say what???? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

Oh, this. You really freaked me out with your previous post. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
You also create a bunch of mobs instead of focus all resources on one mob right.

Seem to me that rich ppl only care about how much kills they murderous monsters got than raise cute pets that won't harm anypony, EVER. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)
And seriously, stop raising celes that deal void the EXACT among of health I have, it's not funny. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Dec 1 2014, 16:28
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Dec 1 2014, 15:43) *

just wondering, did you upgrade your spirit shield to its maximum? iirc last level becomes possible exactly at your level...

4/5. Last one req 285lvl. But maybe i still dont rly need it. Because i use it only as huge hits reduction (like 14k damage from PF boss and my total hp is only 11.5k), sometimes 7-8k hits. And that low one for 2-3k isnt bad for me. I dont even use any shield for x12. Only regen, protection and haste. I die only few times in last weeks, so if needed i can use just cure and its enough. Looks like mana saving.

About 200-300. I think its not so long if spent all daily stamina. Probably i had 6-10 early and 4 after 240. Atm i 265 and its still near 4 levels per day. I need much more exp for each new level, but i also increase difficulte and get more. I expect a bit decrease to 3 up to 280 and maybe a bit more later. So its actually only few weeks max.
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post Dec 1 2014, 16:43
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QUOTE(tetron @ Dec 1 2014, 07:03) *

Yep. When I started playing HV, I was using full reinforced leather + 1H. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

And tell you what, those who says "Don't mix Leather with Shade" are wrong. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
You use Health Potion in battle?? I've forgotten when I last used it (except for recovery outside of battle). (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

i always have leftover mana pots so i slot'em with health pots to reduce time in cure.
Shade+leather is analog with power+plate, nothing is wrong imo.
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post Dec 1 2014, 17:00
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QUOTE(kumosu @ Dec 1 2014, 19:48) *

You also create a bunch of mobs instead of focus all resources on one mob right.

Yep. That's what I've been doing with my Chaos Tokens lately. Now I regret putting so many Chaos Tokens on my 1st mob. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

QUOTE(kumosu @ Dec 1 2014, 19:48) *

And seriously, stop raising celes that deal void the EXACT among of health I have, it's not funny. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

You can guess the type of all the new mobs that I'm creating lately. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

QUOTE(Dead-ed @ Dec 1 2014, 20:13) *

i always have leftover mana pots so i slot'em with health pots to reduce time in cure.

How come this idea never occurred to me? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)
Nice tips. Thanks. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

QUOTE(Dead-ed @ Dec 1 2014, 20:13) *

Shade+leather is analog with power+plate, nothing is wrong imo.

Yep. It's funny when people here (Who play Light Armor) keep shouting "Full Shade" "Full Shade". (Speak it out loud a few time very fast. It'll sound like "Bull Shit" "Bull Shit") (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

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post Dec 1 2014, 17:41
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QUOTE(tetron @ Dec 1 2014, 08:00) *

Yep. That's what I've been doing with my Chaos Tokens lately. Now I regret putting so many Chaos Tokens on my 1st mob. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
You can guess the type of all the new mobs that I'm creating lately. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
How come this idea never occurred to me? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)
Nice tips. Thanks. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Yep. It's funny when people here (Who play Light Armor) keep shouting "Full Shade" "Full Shade". (Speak it out loud a few time very fast. It'll sound like "Bull Shit" "Bull Shit") (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

for rich people it's better to burn credits through forging right? So envious (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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post Dec 1 2014, 20:24
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Dec 1 2014, 14:58) *

you know, counter-attacks actually ARE stuns (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) and penetrated armor IS awesome, it makes you able to inflict way more damage than usual. add spirit stance, a decent heartseeker and maybe void strike and you'll cut celestials as butter, giants and arthropods as chocolate (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
less than you expect. raise your 1H prof to 200 (for the three counter-stuns-per-turn thing) and enjoy your grinding


greetings

what would be the equivalent for dw style correct me if i am wrong ?

ethereal Club + ethereal rapier [dw style] + spirit stance + heart seeker + protection with cold augmentation + shade armor . (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Now if only power armor could be obtained .... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Dec 1 2014, 20:51
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QUOTE(Twilight Sparkle1998 @ Dec 1 2014, 23:50) *

Well then, guess I am glad I got rid of my niten set. Let me guess, 1H + Heavy OP cause of counter attacks. And they said penetrated armor is awesome. I still don't see why it's better than stuns. From 200 to 300, I am sure it will take a while for me to level up, a whole lot of while. XD


Took me.... 3 weeks? or so. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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post Dec 1 2014, 20:58
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QUOTE(derp-z2 @ Dec 1 2014, 19:24) *

greetings

what would be the equivalent for dw style correct me if i am wrong ?

ethereal Club + ethereal rapier [dw style] + spirit stance + heart seeker + protection with cold augmentation + shade armor . (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Now if only power armor could be obtained .... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

a classical DW build is (ethereal) club of slaughter + (ethereal/hallowed) rapier of nimble
a more experimental one, yet quite effective may be (ethereal) rapier of slaughter + (ethereal/hallowed wakizashi of nimble), which will give you plenty of parry chance
both with shade (maybe with one good negation), spirit stance and heartseeker as much as possible. also, personally i use haste and shadow veil as IA slots with shade, while haste and protection with power (only 2 available)
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