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Dec 1 2014, 08:42
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kumosu
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QUOTE(Twilight Sparkle1998 @ Dec 1 2014, 13:50)  Hey! I would like to ask about a great way to grind credits. Mind telling me how you all grind credits the fastest way and what difficulty?
This is the progress to become rich from other's suffering (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) 1. Lv up fast and unlock all arenas. 2. Do arenas daily and get tokens 3. Blood tokens for FSM 4. Chaos tokens to unlock and raise 50 pets (100 if gold star+) 5. Watch your cute pets go out rampaging and murder other ppls and bring back torn up flesh and boney and armor pierces for ya. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) =>Profit. ($w$) (according to Colman, Vriska, etc... btw)
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Dec 1 2014, 09:04
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Inu Sakuya
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QUOTE(kumosu @ Dec 1 2014, 14:42)  This is the progress to become rich from other's suffering (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) 1. Lv up fast and unlock all arenas. 2. Do arenas daily and get tokens 3. Blood tokens for FSM 4. Chaos tokens to unlock and raise 50 pets (100 if gold star+) 5. Watch your cute pets go out rampaging and murder other ppls and bring back torn up flesh and boney and armor pierces for ya. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) =>Profit. ($w$) (according to Colman, Vriska, etc... btw) That's not the point, I need a way to do Arena on higher difficulties, all i can do is normal, sometimes i go on Nightmare if I am bored.
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Dec 1 2014, 09:15
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kumosu
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QUOTE(Twilight Sparkle1998 @ Dec 1 2014, 16:04)  That's not the point, I need a way to do Arena on higher difficulties, all i can do is normal, sometimes i go on Nightmare if I am bored.
'kay, then we need screenshots of your stats, your equips, your abilities, your training, your favorite color, your blood type, your preferable choice for breakfast morning... Believe me, it's all to help you with clearing Arenas in higher difficulties (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Dec 1 2014, 09:24
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Inu Sakuya
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QUOTE(kumosu @ Dec 1 2014, 15:15)  'kay, then we need screenshots of your stats, your equips, your abilities, your training, your favorite color, your blood type, your preferable choice for breakfast morning... Believe me, it's all to help you with clearing Arenas in higher difficulties (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Oh very funny, I will just post a screenshot of my stats. My equips are well you seen it before. https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=3658931 This post has been edited by Twilight Sparkle1998: Dec 1 2014, 09:25
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Dec 1 2014, 09:51
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Colman
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QUOTE(Twilight Sparkle1998 @ Dec 1 2014, 15:24)  Oh very funny, I will just post a screenshot of my stats. My equips are well you seen it before. https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=3658931 Try playing Hell GF and see how deep you can go. I think mage really need higher proficiency to survive.
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Dec 1 2014, 09:56
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malkatmp
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QUOTE(Dead-ed @ Dec 1 2014, 07:19)  i clear pfudor arena although with health pots buff. It's funny to find out that using leather is somewhat better & faster than my negation set (also with health pots).
QUOTE(Twilight Sparkle1998 @ Dec 1 2014, 08:37)  Well okay, I am actually playing on Hard right now. Wish there was a way to play @hell. BTW, what's so good about leather anyway? By BT, you mean on Arena right?
Leather is surprisingly cheap & good defensively. decent Legendary Leather Protection can be brought for 20k, also, it's quite easy to get 70+PMI, 60+MMI, 40-50+ Parry, Evade (when sharded, but expensive), Resist. if used with 1H, you can get 40+ block too. though, generally, it's VERY VERY VERY slow. QUOTE(Twilight Sparkle1998 @ Dec 1 2014, 09:24)  Oh very funny, I will just post a screenshot of my stats. My equips are well you seen it before. https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=3658931 imo, you equip are okay. Alt Legendary staff is better than your other staff, however, your lvl/prof (cloth/elemental/staff) is a bit too low. nice some grinding. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) with 60 elemental prof, you'll only get T1 &T2, but not T3.
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Dec 1 2014, 09:57
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holy_demon
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QUOTE(kumosu @ Dec 1 2014, 17:42)  This is the progress to become rich from other's suffering (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) 1. Lv up fast and unlock all arenas. 2. Do arenas daily and get tokens 3. Blood tokens for FSM 4. Chaos tokens to unlock and raise 50 pets (100 if gold star+) 5. Watch your cute pets go out rampaging and murder other ppls and bring back torn up flesh and boney and armor pierces for ya. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) =>Profit. ($w$) (according to Colman, Vriska, etc... btw) that's pretty outdated. Monster's gift is sharply reduced the more monster you have. Pricing of forge mats is reduced everywhere. And last but not least, the people who can afford monsters are already rich to begin with.
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Dec 1 2014, 10:15
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kumosu
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Dec 1 2014, 16:57)  Monster's gift is sharply reduced the more monster you have.
Why? Please explain.
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Dec 1 2014, 10:24
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Dan31
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QUOTE(Twilight Sparkle1998 @ Dec 1 2014, 08:24)  Oh very funny, I will just post a screenshot of my stats. My equips are well you seen it before. https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=3658931 IMHO, you should just use 1H for now, your set shouldn't be too bad and the style is great at your level.
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Dec 1 2014, 10:44
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nec1986
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QUOTE(kumosu @ Dec 1 2014, 09:42)  3. Blood tokens for FSM
Why spaghetti?
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Dec 1 2014, 11:02
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Dead-ed
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Dec 1 2014, 01:44)  Why spaghetti?
the most expensive trophy, until now at least...
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Dec 1 2014, 11:02
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Dead-ed
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This post has been edited by Dead-ed: Dec 1 2014, 11:06
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Dec 1 2014, 11:43
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erwtsnert
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QUOTE(kumosu @ Dec 1 2014, 11:15)  Why? Please explain.
Proportionally maybe? As in, rising chaos token costs for making new monsters and new monsters only giving you a small fraction extra of what you receive as a total already.
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Dec 1 2014, 13:24
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Twilight Sparkle1998 @ Dec 1 2014, 05:50)  Hey! I would like to ask about a great way to grind credits. Mind telling me how you all grind credits the fastest way and what difficulty?
a bit lazy here, so the most i do is T&T and the SG marathons at the highest difficulties i can manage: this means PFUDOR for T&T, IWTBH for the first SG, BT for the second and hell for the last (at BT the most i can do in DwD is 130 levels). my problem is that i lack pack rat levels and i'm too scroogy to train it further (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) then, trophies to dani every now and then, some drops and scraps from salvaging in my shop or WTB, some materials and crystals for my personal use (to reduce the amount i have to buy). PF FSM whenever i reach 5 tokens QUOTE(Twilight Sparkle1998 @ Dec 1 2014, 08:04)  That's not the point, I need a way to do Arena on higher difficulties, all i can do is normal, sometimes i go on Nightmare if I am bored.
1H is the way at your level. going mage is a bit of masochism since imperil still have 2-turns cooldown afaik
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Dec 1 2014, 14:11
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Inu Sakuya
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Dec 1 2014, 19:24)  a bit lazy here, so the most i do is T&T and the SG marathons at the highest difficulties i can manage: this means PFUDOR for T&T, IWTBH for the first SG, BT for the second and hell for the last (at BT the most i can do in DwD is 130 levels). my problem is that i lack pack rat levels and i'm too scroogy to train it further (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) then, trophies to dani every now and then, some drops and scraps from salvaging in my shop or WTB, some materials and crystals for my personal use (to reduce the amount i have to buy). PF FSM whenever i reach 5 tokens 1H is the way at your level. going mage is a bit of masochism since imperil still have 2-turns cooldown afaik Did you just say SG marathons? I don't understand, what SG marathons? Also I wonder how you people even get to play PFUDOR but mostly, how did you survive 100 rounds on PFUDOR on T&T? What is your fighting style on these though? BTW, I gave up on Niten. I hate to admit it, but Niten is weak XD Well for me at least.
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Dec 1 2014, 14:30
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holy_demon
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QUOTE(kumosu @ Dec 1 2014, 19:15)  Why? Please explain.
patch 0.80 happens QUOTE - Battles will now only feature at most a single player monster from every trainer.
it was especially designed to nerf monster trainers And if you're not careful about your monster type composition, you might even gimp yourself This post has been edited by holy_demon: Dec 1 2014, 14:33
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Dec 1 2014, 14:34
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nec1986
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I was thinking about that too, because i couldnt clear even x6, but atm i have same gear and almost clearing x12. Huge difference and only thing is exp. It gives small increase, but anywhere and final result is completely better. So now i can clear even PFUDOR fest 70 rounds. Its slow, but gives nice amount of exp. Its not 1000, but i have s-e grade gear and only 265level and its max difficulte in game.
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Dec 1 2014, 14:36
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Dan31
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QUOTE(Twilight Sparkle1998 @ Dec 1 2014, 13:11)  Did you just say SG marathons? I don't understand, what SG marathons? Also I wonder how you people even get to play PFUDOR but mostly, how did you survive 100 rounds on PFUDOR on T&T? What is your fighting style on these though? BTW, I gave up on Niten. I hate to admit it, but Niten is weak XD Well for me at least.
SG = Schoolgirl (Konata, Mikuru, Nagato, Ryouko) SG marathon = the lvl 225+ arenas Don't forget that you are only lvl 200, and don't have as much 1H prof as us, don't have the same gear, abilities, etc. And seriously, use 1H. This post has been edited by Dan31: Dec 1 2014, 14:43
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Dec 1 2014, 14:40
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Twilight Sparkle1998 @ Dec 1 2014, 13:11)  Did you just say SG marathons? I don't understand, what SG marathons?
SG marathons are the last 3 arenas, called this way because of the presence of schoolgirls on them ( reference here). QUOTE(Twilight Sparkle1998 @ Dec 1 2014, 13:11)  Also I wonder how you people even get to play PFUDOR but mostly, how did you survive 100 rounds on PFUDOR on T&T?
it's only natural you can't do PF trio and tree at your level, your PABs, abilities and other stats aren't still scaled enough. back then i wondered it too (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) now it only requires half an hour and without even a strategy (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) QUOTE(Twilight Sparkle1998 @ Dec 1 2014, 13:11)  What is your fighting style on these though?
my fighting style is 1H + heavy power: rapier, force shield and 4 exq power of slaughter + 1 of warding (mostly for its savage prefix). only rapier and shield are IWed QUOTE(Twilight Sparkle1998 @ Dec 1 2014, 13:11)  BTW, I gave up on Niten. I hate to admit it, but Niten is weak XD Well for me at least.
yup, it's one of the overnerfed styles nowadays. someone can manage to make it working, but they have quite endgame gears...
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Dec 1 2014, 14:43
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Dec 1 2014, 13:34)  I was thinking about that too, because i couldnt clear even x6, but atm i have same gear and almost clearing x12. Huge difference and only thing is exp. It gives small increase, but anywhere and final result is completely better. So now i can clear even PFUDOR fest 70 rounds. Its slow, but gives nice amount of exp. Its not 1000, but i have s-e grade gear and only 265level and its max difficulte in game.
just wondering, did you upgrade your spirit shield to its maximum? iirc last level becomes possible exactly at your level...
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