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post Nov 27 2014, 23:26
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 27 2014, 22:20) *

3. let's talk now then, shall we? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

I don't know the chance for RoB. RoB gives less token than what you spend anyway, so I don't think that's important.
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post Nov 27 2014, 23:35
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QUOTE(kumosu @ Nov 27 2014, 22:24) *

why should they purple ?

because they fall in the ultimate class like gods and goddesses... oh, wait!

QUOTE(kumosu @ Nov 27 2014, 22:24) *

why should they purple ?
[hvlist.niblseed.com] http://hvlist.niblseed.com/?selectby=train...&orderbyb=1
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tenboro's personal puppies? really? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
i should really scan them tomorrow. maybe only an easter egg? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


QUOTE(Dan31 @ Nov 27 2014, 22:26) *

I don't know the chance for RoB. RoB gives less token than what you spend anyway, so I don't think that's important.

sure, but apart from the noodly it's still a way to try to convert tokens of blood into chaos tokens, so if one is more interested in long term investments rather than short ones he may want to go, for example, for unicorn horns rather than noodlies:
IPU: 3 token required -> 1 horns (12.5k) + 1 drop + 1 tokens (maybe)
vs.
FSM: 5 tokens required -> 1 noodly (35k) + 1 drop + 1 token

or you can think to use 15 ToB in those two ways, having back:

IPU: 5 runs -> 5 horns (62.5k from Yakamoz) + 5 drops + 5 tokens (maybe)
vs.
FSM: 3 runs -> 3 noodlies (96k from dani, since atomicpuppy is only temporary) + 3 drops + 3 tokens (almost sure)

mere credit spread is 33k between two cases (which means after 5 or 3 runs depending on the cases) but afterall tokens can't be bought, so now that noodlies price is falling...
the matter is only to judge whether IPU token chance is high enough to compensate that spread.

long story short, where's skillchip?

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post Nov 28 2014, 15:53
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Why??! Why again...its light armor

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=62c989a9d6

Maybe its my fate? HV wanna say me, change u gear back.
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post Nov 28 2014, 16:05
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Nov 28 2014, 21:53) *

Why??! Why again...its light armor

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=62c989a9d6

Maybe its my fate? HV wanna say me, change u gear back.

My first Leg drop occurred @ ~lv360 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Nov 28 2014, 16:24
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Nov 28 2014, 06:53) *

Why??! Why again...its light armor

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=62c989a9d6

Maybe its my fate? HV wanna say me, change u gear back.

too bad you didn't follow last easter event. I got the same feeling at that time.

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post Nov 28 2014, 17:33
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What is the best equip for light armor? 1h+shield looks ok, but i cant say its much better. Mostly i have ordinary exq with prot/defl.
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post Nov 28 2014, 17:54
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Nov 29 2014, 00:33) *

What is the best equip for light armor? 1h+shield looks ok, but i cant say its much better. Mostly i have ordinary exq with prot/defl.

In general DW Light.
On 2H, Mace + Light for novice users. Safe but slow due to absence of Penetrated Armor.
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post Nov 28 2014, 19:49
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QUOTE(Cats Lover @ Nov 28 2014, 16:54) *

On 2H, Mace + Light for novice users. Safe but slow due to absence of Penetrated Armor.

Well, Rending Blow does deal Penetrated Armor.
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post Nov 28 2014, 20:49
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QUOTE(Dan31 @ Nov 28 2014, 01:33) *

What I said for late arenas should be a bonus chance actually, stacking multiplicatively to the normal chance.

That's sad to hear. Multiplicative Stacking has diminishing return in HV. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

QUOTE(Dan31 @ Nov 28 2014, 01:33) *

Regarding the base chance of a token clear bonus, the wiki says it's around 15~25%.

http://ehwiki.org/wiki/arena#Rewards

Is that info confirmed? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

QUOTE(Dan31 @ Nov 28 2014, 02:47) *

1. Multiplicative, as in 1-((1-chance1)*(1-chance2)).

Now I'm pissed. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

QUOTE(kumosu @ Nov 28 2014, 02:54) *

why should they purple ?
[hvlist.niblseed.com] http://hvlist.niblseed.com/?selectby=train...&orderbyb=1
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D?A?F?A?Q? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

So anyone ever confronted this "Ceiling Alligator"? If so, then where? RoB? Old Arenas? or random GF? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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post Nov 28 2014, 21:18
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QUOTE(tetron @ Nov 28 2014, 19:49) *

Now I'm pissed. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

yup.

QUOTE(tetron @ Nov 28 2014, 19:49) *

D?A?F?A?Q? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

please, don't start writing like piyin...
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post Nov 28 2014, 22:06
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QUOTE(tetron @ Nov 28 2014, 19:49) *

D?A?F?A?Q? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

So anyone ever confronted this "Ceiling Alligator"? If so, then where? RoB? Old Arenas? or random GF? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

It's just a normal monster. I used to encounter it quite often about a year ago, when my level was lower. Maybe you know Blue Slime, Sperm Whale, Cocatrice, Manticore, etc.? All those were created by Tenboro. When the Monster Lab wasn't around, the game still needed monsters, you know.

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post Nov 28 2014, 22:31
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QUOTE(Dan31 @ Nov 28 2014, 21:06) *

It's just a normal monster. I used to encounter it quite often about a year ago, when my level was lower. Maybe you know Blue Slime, Sperm Whale, Cocatrice, Manticore, etc.? All those were created by Tenboro. When the Monster Lab wasn't around, the game still needed monsters, you know.

so tenboro is actually a trainer too. i guess sperm whale is a beast, but does anybody know which species are slimes, cockatrice etc?
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post Nov 28 2014, 23:28
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 28 2014, 12:31) *

so tenboro is actually a trainer too. i guess sperm whale is a beast, but does anybody know which species are slimes, cockatrice etc?


All of those monsters were around before the Monster Lab so I don't think they have a trainer and class. It has been forever since I've encountered them however, so I can't check if those fields were retroactively filled in.

Ceiling Alligator was created after or with the Monster Lab, which is why it appears as a normal monster.

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post Nov 29 2014, 02:57
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QUOTE(Twilight Sparkle1998 @ Nov 27 2014, 23:30) *

I am still trying to find Power Gauntlets and Power Leggings with endurance though.


I probably have a pair somewhere that I could sell you. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

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post Nov 29 2014, 03:00
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Which armor is generally considered better for light melee builds? Shade armor or Leather armor? (Or are they both balanced out by lack of piercing mitigation on shade and equip burden on leather?)
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post Nov 29 2014, 06:41
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I also want to know what's the best armor for a light melee build (I'm using DW) and what is the best way to earn Proficiencies points?
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post Nov 29 2014, 09:41
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QUOTE(AshleyXRiott @ Nov 29 2014, 07:41) *

I also want to know what's the best armor for a light melee build (I'm using DW) and what is the best way to earn Proficiencies points?


Dont know about gear, wiki says "For light melee Leather "of Protection" or Shade "of Fleet/Shadowdancer" gear and with the "Agile" prefix if you can get it.". But about proficiency u should not rly care. Exp gives much better. So between prof and exp u should choice second.

Btw. If u wanna some advice in exping so i d allocate few things.
1. Take max difficulte for u (use protection, haste, regen later for surviving).
2. It req many mana so u need more mana pots (btw, dont forget to use it). Even heroic cost only 30 credits.
3. Also its better to train max pot slots earlier. More pots - longer run - increasing difficulte - more exp.
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post Nov 29 2014, 10:40
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QUOTE(Dan31 @ Nov 29 2014, 01:36) *

It's just a normal monster. I used to encounter it quite often about a year ago, when my level was lower. Maybe you know Blue Slime, Sperm Whale, Cocatrice, Manticore, etc.? All those were created by Tenboro. When the Monster Lab wasn't around, the game still needed monsters, you know.

I see. Thanks for the info. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

QUOTE(n125 @ Nov 29 2014, 02:58) *

Ceiling Alligator was created after or with the Monster Lab, which is why it appears as a normal monster.

So DwD is comparatively new? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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post Nov 29 2014, 14:12
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QUOTE(tetron @ Nov 29 2014, 00:40) *

So DwD is comparatively new? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)


Relatively, yeah; but it's still like, 3 years old now. Only Triple Trio and the Tree was added after DwD, and it's a few years old now too, I believe. We haven't had any arena or RoB added in quite a while.

This was the line-up of arenas when I was new to the game (started in October '10): http://ehwiki.org/index.php?title=Arena&oldid=4414 I thought that the names of the last three arenas were really cool and was disappointed when they were scrapped. Eventually the arena layouts were reconfigured and capped to 100 rounds. Later DwD was added and the arenas started to get pruned down to what we have now.
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post Nov 29 2014, 14:54
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QUOTE(n125 @ Nov 29 2014, 13:12) *

Relatively, yeah; but it's still like, 3 years old now. Only Triple Trio and the Tree was added after DwD, and it's a few years old now too, I believe. We haven't had any arena or RoB added in quite a while.

This was the line-up of arenas when I was new to the game (started in October '10): http://ehwiki.org/index.php?title=Arena&oldid=4414 I thought that the names of the last three arenas were really cool and was disappointed when they were scrapped. Eventually the arena layouts were reconfigured and capped to 100 rounds. Later DwD was added and the arenas started to get pruned down to what we have now.

uhu, 500 rounds... not half bad (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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